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The bottom line is teams will leave the CCL rather than be forced to play the Blue teams.
Can't speak to StL/DLS but yes I do believe that about Fenwick. If the CPS simply tried to force Fenwick's hand to join the other 5 it'd be adios CCL.Do you really think that Stl, Fenwick and/or DLS would leave the Catholic League before agreeing to play in the blue?
Put Montini in the Blue and that would solve the reluctance of other schools wanting to be in the blue. Might take Montini a year or two to win the conference with a school attendance of around 800 kids. LOLCan't speak to StL/DLS but yes I do believe that about Fenwick. If the CPS simply tried to force Fenwick's hand to join the other 5 it'd be adios CCL.
They already rejectedPut Montini in the Blue and that would solve the reluctance of other schools wanting to be in the blue. Might take Montini a year or two to win the conference with a school attendance of around 800 kids. LOL
Put Montini in the Blue and that would solve the reluctance of other schools wanting to be in the blue. Might take Montini a year or two to win the conference with a school attendance of around 800 kids. LOL
Not thrilled with this idea. DVC/CCL would make it really hard to make the playoffs (other than Loyola). Imagine NN playing Loyola, MC, BR, SR, PC, NC, Neuqua, and Waubonsie. Football suicide for several solid programs. Most teams involved need to schedule three winnable games before heading thru a meat grinder.If no one wants to do crossovers with the CCL Blue (can't say I blame them) and it's causing strife and friction and departures from other CCL divisions - what about CCL Blue only playing each other and either they or the remains of the DVC reach out to one another for a long term 2 to 3 non conference home and away schedule?
Would this stabilize the CCL for all divisions or help some? I would think It would definitely be a benefit to the remains of the DVC for football scheduling 2018 and beyond. And finally - I think there would be some good matchups to watch and intriguing games.
Thoughts?
Not thrilled with this idea. DVC/CCL would make it really hard to make the playoffs (other than Loyola). Imagine NN playing Loyola, MC, BR, SR, PC, NC, Neuqua, and Waubonsie. Football suicide for several solid programs. Most teams involved need to schedule three winnable games before heading thru a meat grinder.
I get you can't win it if you're not in. However my thinking is if you can't win 5 games against like sized schools. Are you really a pretender and not a contender.I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment. I got to believe the goal is to win a state championship. To achieve this goal, one must make the damn playoffs first.
Potential Cascia schedule:
SR @ Naperville Central
SR @ Glenbard North
MC @ SR
LA @ SR
SR @ BR
Waubonsie Valley @ SR
SR @ Nequa Valley
PC @ SR
SR @ Naperville North
People do not want to join the CCL Blue to have a shot at the playoffs. Why would the CCL or DVC put itself in a position contrarian to that?
Not thrilled with this idea. DVC/CCL would make it really hard to make the playoffs (other than Loyola). Imagine NN playing Loyola, MC, BR, SR, PC, NC, Neuqua, and Waubonsie. Football suicide for several solid programs. Most teams involved need to schedule three winnable games before heading thru a meat grinder.
Didn't know that! Still think they would be a good fit football wise.They already rejected
I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment. I got to believe the goal is to win a state championship. To achieve this goal, one must make the damn playoffs first.
Potential Cascia schedule:
SR @ Naperville Central
SR @ Glenbard North
MC @ SR
LA @ SR
SR @ BR
Waubonsie Valley @ SR
SR @ Nequa Valley
PC @ SR
SR @ Naperville North
People do not want to join the CCL Blue to have a shot at the playoffs. Why would the CCL or DVC put itself in a position contrarian to that?
I get you can't win it if you're not in. However my thinking is if you can't win 5 games against like sized schools. Are you really a pretender and not a contender.
I get you can't win it if you're not in. However my thinking is if you can't win 5 games against like sized schools. Are you really a pretender and not a contender.
I wasn't suggesting the two conferences merge from a football perspective - just that perhaps there is a possibility of playing two games each year between the conferences?
SR versus Elgin
SR versus West Chicago
SR versus Metea
SR versus Naperville North
SR versus PC - conference
SR versus BR - conference
SR versus MC - conference
SR versus SR - conference
SR versus Loyola - conference
Two ok non con matchups and two tougher ones. This non con schedule doesn't look like a total nut buster?
They were loaded last year with prospectsI don't think Marist wants to play Rice, Rita, MC, Provy and Loyola year in and out. They've got a good easy 5-4 minimum in ESCC each year so even in down years they should be good. They jump to Blue they'd be competitive but no perennially. This year however they'd do good. Has anyone seen how f'ing loaded Marist is?
Very young unproven prospects that needed to gain experience, now they have experience.They were loaded last year with prospects
I'm talking about the 3 D1 seniors and a defense that was suppose to be one of the best in stateVery young unproven prospects that needed to gain experience, now they have experience.
They were loaded last year with prospects
Not that they will, but joining the Blue would be the best thing ever for Marist. If they were in Blue now you have the TV package, playing all of Rita, Rice, MC on a Friday night instead of selectively here and there at SF. Playing in front of bigger crowds having those 3 on the schedule. And PC as well with battling for kids in the Orland area. Marist would be the CCL Blue co-ed option on the SW side.
I think your "over-selling" of Marist is so transparent. Saying easy 5-4 min in ESCC is ridiculous. Very competitive conference. Any given Friday night you can lose.I don't think Marist wants to play Rice, Rita, MC, Provy and Loyola year in and out. They've got a good easy 5-4 minimum in ESCC each year so even in down years they should be good. They jump to Blue they'd be competitive but no perennially. This year however they'd do good. Has anyone seen how f'ing loaded Marist is?
Based on their recent history, going at least 5-4 while in the ESCC has been pretty easy for Marist. They have been 5-4 or better in 8 out of the last 9 years.I think your "over-selling" of Marist is so transparent. Saying easy 5-4 min in ESCC is ridiculous. Very competitive conference. Any given Friday night you can lose.
Ditto - this year Marist will go undefeated in conference. Why jump to Blue to risk not making playoffs.Based on their recent history, going at least 5-4 while in the ESCC has been pretty easy for Marist. They have been 5-4 or better in 8 out of the last 9 years.
Marist doesn't need to join the blue. They are thriving with the current set up. Enrollment is good and they are bringing in a ton of athletes for all the sports. In addition, the ESCC is a good fit for the girls programs, which are also thriving. If I am Marist, I wouldn't change a thing. Got a good thing going over there.
Pretty sure Dunne is 3-7 all time vs Blue.Ditto - this year Marist will go undefeated in conference. Why jump to Blue to risk not making playoffs.