John, you are absolutely, certainly and unequivocally correct. And I felt very strange writing that. For me, the organization is of far more concern than the guy they just hired.
To me, I appreciate someone who can correct action...even if it took far too long. I would also add to the list the firing of Waldron.
To me it's just lazy to just point out past failed hires when this time around it was actually different. Each situation/hire is different even in the same org. Don't get me wrong, having some hesitation is expected but I am sick of hearing about Nagy/Flus/Trestman/etc.
Really? Lazy? What the hell else are people supposed to say? We have seen history repeat itself too much to believe in anything the McCaskeys say. Even if this situation is different, the same outcome can happen. I think it's more than hesitation. But I do want to stay optimistic too. However, I will believe it when I see it.
In fairness. The old man hired all of those guys with the exception of Jauron and Fox, yes? Overall and with the exception of 1984-1988 the Bears have mostly sucked since the mid 1960s. LOL
You really want to put feathers in their caps for this?
I don't believe words from the McCaskeys but this was action not words. They did a few things they haven't done, actions not words. Yes, we all know the same outcome can happen? We all know that and no one is acting like all is fixed and the Bears are the Chiefs.
I don't recall anybody on here stating that. I've only corrected people in face-to-face conversations about that one. I am getting older though.
But they didn’t just talk about doing stuff, they did it and right now is all we can evaluate. 🤦♂️
So with a coach it's "talk is cheap" and "wait and see", but with an unproven rookie QB you drank the Kool-Aid dove right in.
Actually they haven’t done anything but hire a coach. I am glad we got him but I will wait to see if the young coach can back up what he is preaching. Let’s hope he can and hold up to the upper management. It’s a tough road to work for this organization.
I didn’t drink any kool-aid. He was the #1 pick and a rookie. He has already surpassed any rookie QB for the Bears his first year with a dysfunctional ownership and coach. You’re a hater and have been a hater of Caleb Williams you have said it so many times it’s becoming boring. Go root for you boyfriend Mahomes.
And Johnson was the #1 candidate and will be a rookie head coach.
Corey, he has nothing better to do than come here and argue just to argue.
Well, for the money he is being paid he sure as hell better be a can't miss coach. Yeah, I brought up money again. He has proven nothing yet and compared to what some coaches are making who have actually won a SB or two it is a real gamble by the Bears. If it pays off, that's great. But if it doesn't, we can just file it in the waste can with all the other failures this organization has thrown at their fans.
LOL! Well, financially? Not as much. The more money you bet on something, the more of a gamble it is. LOL. 😀 😀
I’ll stop with the money. Your choice was McCarthy, we will leave it at that. On to the draft and FA…
Depends on what they want and what he is willing to commit to. For instance, I would take a prime Garrett who agrees to a reasonable extension over any of the EDGE in this draft. So maybe the 1st round and a player. We have similar needs besides QB, though.
You are way off in what he will bring for a trade. He's still only 29, was the DPOY, and under contract through 2026. It will cost multiple firsts plus a contract extension that will likely require him being the highest paid defensive player in the league.
At this point I absolutely agree, but that opinion could change depending on what they do in free agency. If they go out and get 2 top OL in free agency then I think the Bears could look to shop the #10 pick, depending on other teams needs.
Yes, FA will help determine that. I also think they want to hit on two OL in FA; so they don't have two rookies on the interior and opens themselves up in the draft.
We paid a Kings Ransom for Mack with the 2 first rounders and despite one elite season from Mack it really set us back not having those picks for 2 years. We gave up first rounders for Cutler too, same story, we are too much of a mess to give up first rounders. If we were set as a consistent playoff team and getting Garrett would be the missing peice to get over the hump, then yes roll the dice, but we aren't even close to being at that level. I could see Buffalo doing it, and unfortunately maybe the Packers
Agree. Early contenders that have been mentioned are the Lions, Redskins, and Pats.
Maybe way off, maybe not. Perceived and actual value are going to be two different things. As you said, his wanting out really changes things. It's going to come down to what the Bears are willing to give up vs. what other teams are. He's also a pretty quirky guy, so it's hard to say where he would want to go.
A contender. He specifically said he wants to win a Super Bowl. Him wanting out changes things but not entirely. The Browns still aren't going to give him away and there's no guarantee they trade him at all if they don't get the return they want. If the Bears were to offer what you mentioned they would never be in the conversation.
We lose Kyler Gordon we know have a secondary issue. He's been legit. Who knows if/when Brisker is coming back. Switch Gordon for Stevenson and I'd consider it. If Gordon was a must have I'd pull back the 2nd rounder. We need those to get linemen
You're not getting one of the top defenders in the game for a first and a 5th round pick. Why do people think their teams can low ball other teams for their top player?
