It’s an interesting point. I don’t see them forgoing the future even if they win 9-10-11 games. Little tweaks along the way? Sure. But it seems clear they have a plan and they are sticking with it. What I think would be interesting is if they hit the midway point with 6-7 wins do they kick the tires on OBJ?
How's the growth going so far. 11-22 passing, 155 yards, 6 sacks.
To be fair, the division in aggregate has won only 3 Super Bowls from 1985 to today (85 bears, 96 packers, 10 Packers), with the Vikes only making it as far as the NFC-C 3 times and losing in the same span.
I am not going to blame everything on Fields but I will say he does not check off well at all. If his primary receiver isn’t open he can’t find the open player. I don’t know if this can be fixed. I am not going to blame the offensive line. They have their issues but they are not the reason. The biggest issue is the Bears defense. The d-line can’t stop the run period. The only bright spot is our kickers! Lol
I disagree somewhat with you, Corey. Yes, the Bears are last in run defense. But they have given up an average of 19.25 points a game and that is quite good in the NFL. To me, wins and losses come first, followed by points scored and given up. I do realize the other numbers can lead to points scored and given up. But points given up and scored lead more directly to wins and losses.
Fun looking back at some of these old threads. Mac Jones is head and shoulders ahead of Fields. 👍
Mac Jones head and shoulders above Fields? I don’t agree with that. I’m sure as hell not sold on Mac Jones being an answer yet. He had decent stats rookie year that mirrored Mitch’s 2nd yr. He also shit the bed all 3 games this yr so far, altho now he’s hurt.
Mac’s numbers are still better than Fields. You can keep making excuses but you know he is the better NFL QB. 2.4 seconds. Yes that’s what it takes for Mac Jones to get rid of the ball. He can also check off his primary receiver. Check Fields and get back to me. Keep blaming the OL they would love a QB who threw the ball in 2.4 seconds. By the way the faster than Brady. Ask Micah he knows what 2.5 seconds is! Hahaha 🤣
I called it right after the draft. Look at the beginning of this thread. I am not giving up on Fields yet but he better start hitting second and third reads and doing it quickly. He is holding the ball way to long. No offensive line can hold there blocks 5-6 seconds. Fields is eyeing down his primary receiver and aiming his throw. He is not throwing the ball he is aiming the ball. It’s like he has no confidence in his throws.
The Bears offensive coaches and O-line will do that to a young QB
He has almost no time to find his first read (which seems to never be open) much less his 2nd or 3rd one.
We went to the Houston game. Fields didn’t see open guys on several plays. He was even throwing the ball late to his primary receiver when they were wide open. Believe me it’s a problem and I don’t know how a coach can fix that?
2.4 seconds vs 5-6 seconds. He needs to get rid of the ball. He’s running around because he can’t see the open receivers.
He completed 70% of his passes his SR year in Columbus. 67% his first year. I’d say he can see the field when not under duress. Try getting hit every other time you drop back and try to have the chops to make your progressions.
Where do you suggest he get rid of the ball to? Doesn’t that time also indicate no WR is getting open? You are also assuming WRs are open. Sure, he’s missed some but when he’s not under duress his numbers are fantastic.
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Really so he makes pass completions when not under duress? I think every QB in the NFL can complete passes when they are not under duress heck they all do that in practice all the time. I watch fields miss throws that were easy screens to the TE. Anyone paying attention sees it. I don’t know what the answer is but we’re invested now with Fields so I hope he can correct this issue otherwise we’re going to be hunting for a new QB. Honestly I don’t want that. That would really suck.
No. The point is he needs to improve 100%. And there is a ton of room to improve. But to imply, as you have done repeatedly, that he is the lone problem, is myopic and shows your understanding of the game. The QB play sucks. The OL play sucks. The WRs are way worse than the QB and OL. That is not a good equation.
I never said it is just the QB. Read my earlier post. It’s not just Fields. The OL isn’t perfect, the D-Line isn’t great. The offensive play calling is bad. The Defense can’t stop the run and the secondary at times are confused.
Agree on all. It’s a mess. We need to get a top 5 pick and acquire multiple picks in rounds 3-6. I’m not sure where those come from but one could hope.
Pretty much every movie actor who rose to stardom started out as a bit player. But, I get your point.
I agree with you. But, like some posters here, the Bears stubbornly believe they can draft a QB and build around him. It has worked for some teams in the past. You just have to hope your QB doesn't get maimed in the process if you're going to take that road.
