I think Johnson is going to the Raiders. Brady is making a hard push. If goes to the Raiders it’s only because Brady. Raiders have a lot of needs.
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So does most every team looking for a coach. The Raiders job may be appealing because he could build the team in his own image.
even if bears know McCarthy is the guy after today they can’t hire him, they haven’t satisfied Rooney Rule.
The Bears have been down this road before. Anyone remember John Fox? Brought in to fix the Trestman debacle, was a coach with a history of winning, 119-89 record before coming to Chicago, with 2 Super Bowl appearances and one championship. How'd he work out for the Bears?
4A were in agreement again. I will point out he has been successful in GB and TX so there is that. Do we go with an unproven guy or an experienced guy? Who knows it’s a crap shoot unless we’re sitting in the interview. I am not sure I can trust the team that’s conducting the interviews to make the right decision that’s for sure. 🤣
In that case, few to no team has satisfied the Rooney rule. Teams cannot conduct in person interviews with any candidate who's team is still playing until January 20th.
I’m not seeing how Brady is the big honcho here… ya he’s the GOAT on the field, but looking at MJ’s years as an executive with the Wiz and Hornets haven’t exactly led to fruition and playoffs.
I think there’s a lot to like about LV Raiders… full football control, new stadium, fun market, nice weather. Brady can be a positive, but he’s not the main reasoning imo.
It’s 100% the rule.
Patriots interviewed guys that weren’t coaching to satisfy the rule.
This. Brady owns a very small percentage of the team that his presence as a factor in the decision seems ridiculous. This guy is really going to pass on Washington last year and the Bears this year to go coach the dysfunctional Raiders team in a division with Andy Reid, Jim Harbaugh and Sean Payton. A team with no quarterback because Brady owns five percent of the team.
Good luck to him if that's the case!
I think the Bears have been a soft team the last few years. Both physically and mentally. Need some nasty on this team.
You're just going to continue to argue just to argue. You angry little man.
I still want you to name a Bears QB who is/was better than Dak Prescott. You cherry-pick ONE game to respond to? How about the 174 he has won? Just stop arguing, you have no chance here.
I am not saying the Bears are cheap. But I do wonder why they have only hired one head coach with NFL head coaching experience in many many years. Because a guy with experience will usually command more money.
This is only part of the problem. It is not just the money, it's WHO they hire that is a much bigger issue. The Bears, indeed, did have the 7th highest payroll in the NFL and only won 5 games. As a matter of fact, if you look at the top ten teams in 2024 payroll, eight of them didn't make the playoffs with Kansas City and Baltimore being the two that did. So, as you know, a high payroll doesn't necessarily equal success. Injuries do play a part too.
I don't think McCarthy will get much personnel decision making power as well. I am interested in knowing whether it is something he wants. Yeah, maybe he gets a seat at that table. But how much of his input will be valued and used?
Your final sentence does say it all. There are guys here who aren't happy unless they are miserable.
Maybe the problem was the Bears organization and not John Fox.
On the flip side of that, three teams in the Bears division made the playoffs and the Bears finished way back in last place. I seriously, seriously doubt a coach makes a decision to take an NFL job based on the other teams in the division. If that is true in this case, this is a guy I do not want to coach my team.
And two of those teams are at home and those games were not very competitive. Balance of power shifts so frequently in the NFL.
I'm sure it's something that's thought about, but the important things are the situation you are taking over....
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Recently read an interesting article written by Marc Silverman of Shaw Media and Waddle and Silvy. One part of the article details the hiring/firing that has occurred in George McCaskey's tenure since 2011. It's a good lesson in how not to do things. Here's the link:
www.shawlocal.com
The key points of the article are below:
"McCaskey’s first big move was to fire Jerry Angelo and hire Phil Emery. His one stipulation was Emery couldn’t fire Lovie Smith immediately. So Emery waited a year and then replaced Smith with Marc Trestman. The stipulation to Trestman was that Mel Tucker had to run Smith’s defense even though he wasn’t familar with it.
Two years later, McCaskey fired Emery and Trestman for Ryan Pace, and the stipulation was that Pace could not hire his own coach but instead was to be “set up” with John Fox. Two years later, Fox had no clue Trubisky was getting drafted as his new quarterback. Fox was fired months later.
Stipulations? More like stupidity.
When Poles was hired, even though he ultimately chose Matt Eberflus, the search process began by interviewing coaching candidates before Poles had even interviewed for the GM job.
You wonder why the Bears are always losing and searching and searching and losing? It’s because the process is always littered with more bad practices than a Bears training camp.
You can try to treat the Bears losing symptoms by changing coordinators, coaches and general managers, but until the true illness is cured nothing will truly be fixed.
So, the Bears have not won a playoff game since George took over in 2011. It's possible this process turns out differently than the previous moves in George's tenure, but what is the likelihood?
Until the Bears change their process, they are stuck at the bottom: Silvy
Excuse me if I’m not waiving a Bears flag thinking everything is going to be okay after this endeavor, Marc Silverman writes
The key points of the article are below:
"McCaskey’s first big move was to fire Jerry Angelo and hire Phil Emery. His one stipulation was Emery couldn’t fire Lovie Smith immediately. So Emery waited a year and then replaced Smith with Marc Trestman. The stipulation to Trestman was that Mel Tucker had to run Smith’s defense even though he wasn’t familar with it.
Two years later, McCaskey fired Emery and Trestman for Ryan Pace, and the stipulation was that Pace could not hire his own coach but instead was to be “set up” with John Fox. Two years later, Fox had no clue Trubisky was getting drafted as his new quarterback. Fox was fired months later.
When Poles was hired, even though he ultimately chose Matt Eberflus, the search process began by interviewing coaching candidates before Poles had even interviewed for the GM job.
You can try to treat the Bears losing symptoms by changing coordinators, coaches and general managers, but until the true illness is cured nothing will truly be fixed.
That illness is Bears ownership would rather lose in a comfortable fashion than win with people who make them uncomfortable."So, the Bears have not won a playoff game since George took over in 2011. It's possible this process turns out differently than the previous moves in George's tenure, but what is the likelihood?
George didn't want any swearing on Hard Knocks, are they really gonna hire a fiery bad-mouthed coach? Sounds so stupid but something to think about...
Oh if we want to talk about the Cowboys failures in the playoffs under McCarthy it's more than one game.
Yes, Dak is a good QB, but what exactly has he won? One playoff win and an over inflated contract that'sit. The only stat I care about is wins. The Bears QB can hand the ball off 47 times a game and average 142 yard passing as long as they win.
He's always called plays from the booth, where have you heard him have a foul mouth? Are you thinking of his cousin Jeff, the Army HC?
Yes, I did know he calls plays from the booth, which is certainly a discussion to have since he will be on sideline as HC.
To be fair I heard it on radio, foul mouth and is kinda old school hard ass football guy. Nothing wrong with that but just got me thinking.
Rumor out that the McCarthy interview didn't go nearly as long as it was supposed to. He could have wowwed them out of the gate or just shown up and said I'm Mike McCarthy and thought that would be enough. Time will tell.
Also, for all the complaining people do about how inept the Bears organization is why is no one else concerned that the Bears are the only team so high on McCarthy?
Also, for all the complaining people do about how inept the Bears organization is why is no one else concerned that the Bears are the only team so high on McCarthy?
pjjpRecently read an interesting article written by Marc Silverman of Shaw Media and Waddle and Silvy. One part of the article details the hiring/firing that has occurred in George McCaskey's tenure since 2011. It's a good lesson in how not to do things. Here's the link:
Until the Bears change their process, they are stuck at the bottom: Silvy
Excuse me if I’m not waiving a Bears flag thinking everything is going to be okay after this endeavor, Marc Silverman writes
The key points of the article are below:
"McCaskey’s first big move was to fire Jerry Angelo and hire Phil Emery. His one stipulation was Emery couldn’t fire Lovie Smith immediately. So Emery waited a year and then replaced Smith with Marc Trestman. The stipulation to Trestman was that Mel Tucker had to run Smith’s defense even though he wasn’t familar with it.
Two years later, McCaskey fired Emery and Trestman for Ryan Pace, and the stipulation was that Pace could not hire his own coach but instead was to be “set up” with John Fox. Two years later, Fox had no clue Trubisky was getting drafted as his new quarterback. Fox was fired months later.
Stipulations? More like stupidity.
When Poles was hired, even though he ultimately chose Matt Eberflus, the search process began by interviewing coaching candidates before Poles had even interviewed for the GM job.
You wonder why the Bears are always losing and searching and searching and losing? It’s because the process is always littered with more bad practices than a Bears training camp.
You can try to treat the Bears losing symptoms by changing coordinators, coaches and general managers, but until the true illness is cured nothing will truly be fixed.
That illness is Bears ownership would rather lose in a comfortable fashion than win with people who make them uncomfortable."
So, the Bears have not won a playoff game since George took over in 2011. It's possible this process turns out differently than the previous moves in George's tenure, but what is the likelihood?
That is one of the best posts I have read in a long time. Very accurate analysis of how dis functional the Bears organization really is. Just looking at all the top brass, they all seem like ass kissers. We need someone that will rock the boat and shake things up. A coach with a strong personality not a yes man.
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Great analysis. The more you learn about the Bears organization, the worse it getsRecently read an interesting article written by Marc Silverman of Shaw Media and Waddle and Silvy. One part of the article details the hiring/firing that has occurred in George McCaskey's tenure since 2011. It's a good lesson in how not to do things. Here's the link:
Until the Bears change their process, they are stuck at the bottom: Silvy
Excuse me if I’m not waiving a Bears flag thinking everything is going to be okay after this endeavor, Marc Silverman writes
The key points of the article are below:
"McCaskey’s first big move was to fire Jerry Angelo and hire Phil Emery. His one stipulation was Emery couldn’t fire Lovie Smith immediately. So Emery waited a year and then replaced Smith with Marc Trestman. The stipulation to Trestman was that Mel Tucker had to run Smith’s defense even though he wasn’t familar with it.
Two years later, McCaskey fired Emery and Trestman for Ryan Pace, and the stipulation was that Pace could not hire his own coach but instead was to be “set up” with John Fox. Two years later, Fox had no clue Trubisky was getting drafted as his new quarterback. Fox was fired months later.
Stipulations? More like stupidity.
When Poles was hired, even though he ultimately chose Matt Eberflus, the search process began by interviewing coaching candidates before Poles had even interviewed for the GM job.
You wonder why the Bears are always losing and searching and searching and losing? It’s because the process is always littered with more bad practices than a Bears training camp.
You can try to treat the Bears losing symptoms by changing coordinators, coaches and general managers, but until the true illness is cured nothing will truly be fixed.
That illness is Bears ownership would rather lose in a comfortable fashion than win with people who make them uncomfortable."
So, the Bears have not won a playoff game since George took over in 2011. It's possible this process turns out differently than the previous moves in George's tenure, but what is the likelihood?
over inflated maybe but $231MM guaranteed. He’s a winner, is it because of his Talent, the scheme, or the coaching? Either way better than anything the Bears have produced of late.
