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Illinois State’s Coach Spack 👏👏

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wickerpark wildcat said:
Hope Northwestern throws it's hat in ring when new stadium completes. Actually, the current lakeside field would be great as well.
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No thanks. I’m sure their facilities are gonna be great but Evanston is a bitch to get to. I live less than 20 miles away and it’s a hassle. I can’t imagine asking the IHSA asking downstate fans to travel there.

Could they use the facilities for northern teams like ISU was used in the opening wknd? Sure, go for it.
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Illinois State’s Coach Spack 👏👏

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SouthofI80FootballFan said:
Charleston/Mattoon has very little to offer.
Maybe 4 hotels, not a lot of food options, and the facilities aren't great. Stands only on 1 side. ISU is by far the best choice for tht State Series.
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What about 1a and 2a or the 2 most South -south matchups for Charleston? That way their is less compression with regards to ISU game times like what happened for the Saturday games this year
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Illinois State’s Coach Spack 👏👏

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Dave Brody said:
What’s the hotel situation in Charleston? I don’t recall many options but it’s been years since I was there.

ISU has plenty of options.
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Charleston/Mattoon has very little to offer.
Maybe 4 hotels, not a lot of food options, and the facilities aren't great. Stands only on 1 side. ISU is by far the best choice for tht State Series.
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Evanston HC opening

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AlwaysABulldog said:
I would think there’s huge upside at Evanston. Anyone play against them recently?
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This is how the annual MS/Etown game has been for years. Evanston comes out hard. MS handles the early storm. We go up a few scores. They begin to argue and point fingers. Game over. They have plenty of good football players over there. The right system and they could be in the playoffs yearly. I’m sure it’s not that easy, but there is potential there.
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New Coach at Laurence

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AmbroseBlack said:
I ask this sincerely. Are you referring to just his coaching stipend or overall salary? For those head coaches in the Catholic League that are also teachers how do their salaries compare to public once you factor in benefits and pension?
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The new move in the CCL is to just coach and work in "development" if your the head football coach. Not a bad gig if you can get it. The downside is job security.
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AmbroseBlack said:
I ask this sincerely. Are you referring to just his coaching stipend or overall salary? For those head coaches in the Catholic League that are also teachers how do their salaries compare to public once you factor in benefits and pension?
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Not all Catholic League coaches are teachers. I don't believe Fitz is a dual coach-teacher. I believe he is a FT admin who primarily coaches football and is paid very well (and frankly he has proven his worth).
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2025 Central State Eight Updates.

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StL_Alum said:
Would be interesting to see one of those St. Louis privates play a CCL big boy to open the season.
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All.... I did a quick search. The Lions played what I guess you could call mid enrollment big boys. JCA in 2021. Hilltoppers won that game 30-20 In 2019 the season the school had to eventually forfeit the games they had played CR opened up the season against Nazareth defeating them 32-21.

I didn't come up with anything on CBC . The nemesis for them in Illinois of course is public school ESTL. I believe they are 0-3 against the Flyers.

I mentioned this earlier in the year. Using Ihsa rules CR with an enrollment of 371 in Illinois would of ended up in postseason play as a small 4A. CBC all boys at 845 would be playing class 8A. The Lions I feel would really struggle against someone like Mt. Carmel (-8) or Loyola (-7) as well as other large enrollment CCL teams. Lack of depth would hurt. A split using calpreps with them playing JCA and Nazareth according to calpreps. Plus 3 with JCA and - 3 with Nazareth. Possible success against mid tier CCL teams.

Calpreps showed double digit losses to Mt. Carmel (10) and Loyola for CBC. (14) Using JCA and Nazareth on the next level preps has plus 7 with the Hilltoppers and -13 playing the Roadrunners. Cadets do have an enromous roster with tons of talent. I think they could hang with the Caravan or Ramblers for a bit of the game. Would love to see it happen and would attend regardless of the drive.... Ratsy
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Please don’t let this happen

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cenrik71 said:
It is clear that if the outcome of those games were different there wouldn't have been such an outcry. DePaul missed the playoffs the year before and was a building program prior to that. I wondered what would have been the argument if our enrollment was still around 800, as previously recorded. At the end of the day all those kids, on both sides, suited up and played the game.
Kudos to all the teams that made the playoffs. They all earned it. But the results were earned by the efforts on the field, not by enrollment.
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I can get behind what is stated in the majority of this post. If you go back and revisit what you posted at 4:36AM it is quite a different tone. The CCL teams go where the IHSA sends them. The results are always based on the efforts on the field and in the weight room, etc…
It actually is a good story to see the rise of DePaul Prep. Clearly they are building something there. It just seemed like you were crowing and mocking the IHSA and more importantly, some of the opponents you defeated along the way. If I misinterpreted your post from this morning, then you have my apologies.
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It is clear that if the outcome of those games were different there wouldn't have been such an outcry. DePaul missed the playoffs the year before and was a building program prior to that. I wondered what would have been the argument if our enrollment was still around 800, as previously recorded. At the end of the day all those kids, on both sides, suited up and played the game.
Kudos to all the teams that made the playoffs. They all earned it. But the results were earned by the efforts on the field, not by enrollment.
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Please don’t let this happen

cenrik71
doctor_d said:
Umm.. I don’t understand your first sentence. The public vs private debate has been raging on for decades, long before DePaul got their title this season. Even that particular day, the “controversy” (if you follow social media) began about noon when Althoff was putting a bow on their 1A title win.

Secondly, the IHSA “got to work right away” to fix an obvious and glaring gaffe in the way they gathered enrollment data for all schools, public and private.

I usually try to stay pretty neutral and open minded, but gloating about your school of 1200 beating up on rural schools of 650-700 isn’t the best look, IMHO. Congrats on the title, thoughof
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Please don’t let this happen

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ramblinman said:
Who, specifically, is causing that angst? Rochester with its 754 students? Byron with 449? Williamsville? Wilmington? Richmond-Burton? The size range you state (by the way, I see you have modified your earlier claim of 1A-4A) is basically the range where public schools have been fairly dominant in recent years. Seriously, what class or classes are you talking about here? 1A? Nope. Almost an exclusive public school club there. 4A? They should simply rename that the Rochester class. 2A? 3A? What?
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Obviously 5A is the biggest angst he's referring to...
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Please don’t let this happen

doctor_d
cenrik71 said:
It wasn't a controversial argument until DePaul Prep ran the table on them this past post season!!!
Central to southern Illinois generational programs lost their marbles over a "chicago-true cook county" private school taking their precious trophy!!
The IHSA machine got to work right away to "fix the unfair advantage of private schools!!! The state's programs on 1A to 4A cried and cried enough to protect their participation ribbons. Nobody complains about the 5A to 8A classes.... except the "One town, one program" people.
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Umm.. I don’t understand your first sentence. The public vs private debate has been raging on for decades, long before DePaul got their title this season. Even that particular day, the “controversy” (if you follow social media) began about noon when Althoff was putting a bow on their 1A title win.

Secondly, the IHSA “got to work right away” to fix an obvious and glaring gaffe in the way they gathered enrollment data for all schools, public and private.

I usually try to stay pretty neutral and open minded, but gloating about your school of 1200 beating up on rural schools of 650-700 isn’t the best look, IMHO. Congrats on the title, though.
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Please don’t let this happen

cenrik71
ramblinman said:
Who, specifically, is causing that angst? Rochester with its 754 students? Byron with 449? Williamsville? Wilmington? Richmond-Burton? The size range you state (by the way, I see you have modified your earlier claim of 1A-4A) is basically the range where public schools have been fairly dominant in recent years. Seriously, what class or classes are you talking about here? 1A? Nope. Almost an exclusive public school club there. 4A? They should simply rename that the Rochester class. 2A? 3A? What?
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It wasn't a controversial argument until DePaul Prep ran the table on them this past post season!!!
Central to southern Illinois generational programs lost their marbles over a "chicago-true cook county" private school taking their precious trophy!!
The IHSA machine got to work right away to "fix the unfair advantage of private schools!!! The state's programs on 1A to 4A cried and cried enough to protect their participation ribbons. Nobody complains about the 5A to 8A classes.... except the "One town, one program" people.
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