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5th Year

Who on your favorite team do you wish had a 5th year of eligibility? Has to be the year after the player graduated, you can't put the 1993 QB on the 2008 team and it can only be one player, no taking the entire OL from 2004 and put them on the 2005 team.

Would that player have made the difference between where they ended up and a title? Would he have made the team the year after he graduated even more dominant? Would he have been a better fit on the team the year after he graduated?

2025 Central State Eight Updates.

All.... Instead of putting general information on the old CS8 2024 thread I figured start a new one for those that follow CS8 football on this board. A couple on non con updates. Jacksonville will host Highland week 1 Friday 8-29. A nice pickup for the Crimsons.

Rochester will not be playing Cardinal Ritter again in their week two game. The Rockets have filled that date and will be on the road at Mt. Zion Friday September 5th. Rochester will play at home week 1 against Gibson Southern out of Indiana on Saturday August 30 at 2pm. Rockets will be 2-0 as they enter the following week into CS8 East play. Ratsy
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Q of the Week: Who is your Sleeper Team To Watch for 2025?

Sleeper as we know can be pretty open to interpretation but in my eyes a sleeper is a team that's in 2024 went say 5-4 or worse and did not do much at all in the post season.

Some examples for me you ask?

St Ignatius
ICCP
Providence Catholic
Carmel
New Trier
Phillips
Lake Zurich
Plainfield North
Bolingbrook
H-F
HInsdale Central
Glenbard West


Who is yours?
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NFHS Rules - Definition of a False Start, and Illinois' interpretation

The NFHS has a Rule Book and a Case Book, together they explain all the rules.

As it pertains to a False Start, below are the relevant rules and case book plays. Note: "A" or "K" is always offense, and "B" or "R" is always defense in the NFHS books.

Rule 7.1.7
After the ball is ready for play and before the snap begins, no false start shall be made by any A player. It is a false start if:
a. A shift or feigned charge simulates action at the snap.
b. Any act is clearly intended to cause B to encroach.
c. Any A player on his line between the snapper and the player on the end of his line, after having placed a hand(s) on or near the ground, moves his hand(s) or makes any quick movement.

Case Book 7.1.7 Situation B
On fourth and four from A's 35-yard line, K comes to the line in a scrimmage formation. After calling a few signals, A1 says "shift." All 11 players then make a movement. Some players move to a new position for a scrimmage-kick formation, while four interior linemen remain in place and move from a hands-on-thighs position to an upright position and finally to a three-point stance. RULING: This could be ruled a false start if the covering official(s) determine that it was designed to cause B to encroach. In judging the offensive team's intent, the game officials should consider whether players move to a new position, the speed and abruptness of movement, down and distance and if any player pretends to have the ball or otherwise simulate action at the snap with the start of a play.


My OPINION: To me this is quite simple. All these plays that cause so much conflict are clearly intended to cause the defense to encroach. Per the Rule, they should be called a false start. Not that difficult to enforce.

I've always struggled to understand why IHSA steps in and provides interpretation on something that doesn't need interpretation. All they've done is cause confusion and conflict.

IHSA puts the burden on the defense to not be fooled by this clear intent by the offense, which by rule should be illegal. This could so easily be put to bed if we just called it per the rule.

Thoughts?
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Talking 2025 Enrollment.....

All.... This is interesting. Belleville Althoff showing a decent enrollment jump. 332.00 with the 1.65 Catholic Tax (M) the Crusaders come in at 547.80. It is very early to determine many schools class especially those on the bubble. What one sees at the beginning of the year when all schools are eligible for the postseason changes dramatically as schools are eliminated. Usually by week 8 or 9 a better picture is available.

It appears Althoff will be one of those bubble schools in between classes. For 2024 the largest class 3A qualifying team had an enrollment of 542.50 and the smallest in class 4A was 553.00. Note though this was with the two year enrollment average. So when the 256 qualifiers are announced at the end of the season there could be many surprises. Stay tuned.... Ratsy

IHSA March Meeting Three Significant Changes To Classification Policy

All.... Just popped up. Ratsy

Dierre Hill On Campus

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Interesting - I think he is he first to be early enrollee from Althoff. Word at the bar, is that young Mr. Hill will be learning to play DB. They like his speed, hops, size and ball skills for their prototype Dback.
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My Evaluation: Montini Catholic 2026 DB CJ Harkins

Name: CJ Harkins

Position: DB

High School: Montini Catholic

Graduation Year: 2026

Height: 6-foot-0

Weight: 180 pounds

Recruiting Status: Committed to NIU. Harkins just this week committed to NIU and the Huskies had been Harkins only D1 offer so far this spring. Harkins, who also played receiver for Montini was drawing looks and attention from the likes of Northwestern, Western Michigan along with multiple FCS level schools this spring. NIU had been recruiting Harkins as a defensive back recruit for them for quite some time now and credit the NIU staff for getting on Harkins early and making him a priority for them.


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I've been able to see CJ Harkins a handful of time over the past few seasons including seeing him live in game this past fall against Byron in a huge playoff game and win for Montini. Harkins no question passes the eyeball test in person and has the overall physical tools and upside physically to add more good weight and strength at the college level.

Evaluation of CJ Harkins

I've been able to see CJ Harkins a handful of time over the past few seasons including seeing him live in game this past fall against Byron in a huge playoff game and win for Montini. Harkins overall is a speedy and athletic player who also has some twitch. Harkins has the ability to play multiple positions in college but his overall ability to play equally well in pass coverage along with his willingness to be equally effective in run support no question makes him a prime candidate to play defensive back. Harkins has good size and length, can play as either a big corner or really anywhere in the secondary equally as well. Look for Harkins to add a bit more good weight and strength at the college level while also maintaining and improving his overall speed and explosiveness. Harkins also has the ability to play on special teams and has returned kicks and punts.


Room for improvement? Like all high school level recruits, Harkins will need to keep working on adding more good weight and strength> Harkins will also need to make the adjustment from playing against high school kids to covering and defending grown men.

Projected level: Rivals has yet to rank CJ Harkins in it's Class of 2026 rankings. Look for Rivals to update his rankings shortly.

EDGYTIM Recommended Initial Rankings: Harkins is yet another "find" for NIU and a name who has somewhat fallen under the radar a bit but who has the overall potential and tools to dfevelop into a strong player at the Group of 5 level. Harkins I feel is a low to mid three starrecruit and who has a chance to boost his overall ranking this fall with some strong senior season in 2025.
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Do over

Which of your teams do you wish had a do over? A team you thought was championship caliber, but fell short for one reason or another.

For me, it would be the 1992 Morris team. They handled Rich Central 44-0 in round 1, but were shocked in the 2nd round of the playoffs by Chicago Heights (Marian) 29-22. Morris led 22-0 at half and then Terrence Marable ran wild in the 2nd half and led Marian to the win. Marian went on to lose in the next round to Bishop Mac. Oswego would win 4A in 1992, a team Morris handled easily in the regular season. Had Morris advanced I think they beat Bishop Mac and likely beat Oswego in the semi finals before facing Geneso in the finals.

I chose this team because they were as high powered a Morris offense that they have ever had. They averaged 51.5 points per game which still ranks in the top 15 all time for points per game in a season. They were also led by QB Todd Schultz who would go on to start for Michigan St. It's still crazy to me that they were held scoreless in the second half of the Marian game.

So who's your team that woulda, coulda, shoulda?

My Evaluation: 2026 Homewood Flossmoor OT Kellen Gamble

Name: Kellen Gamble

Position: OL

High School: Homewood Flossmoor

Graduation Year: 2026

Height: 6-foot-5

Weight: 275 pounds

Recruiting Status: Committed to NIU. Gamble had an early offer from the NIU Huskies and was drawing recruiting intertest and attention from several other MAC schoiols including Miami of Ohio, Ball State. Western Michigan plus several various FCS programs as well. Both Northwestern and West Virginai also started to show spring interest in Gamble.


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I've gotten to know Kellen Gamble after seeing him at various showcase and camps over the past few years. I was also able to see Gamble in live game action last season at Marian Catholic. Gamble is a great sized kid on the hoof who in many ways still has a ways to grow and develop and in many ways is very much a work in progress both physically as well as learning the game. Gamble impressed me in game action by playing hard on every rep and he is also a hard worker on and off the field.

Evaluation of Kellen Gamble

Kellen Gamble is one of a handful of offensive linemen in the Class of 2026 who have similar size, length and physical tools who will end up playing at the D1 level in college. gamble has good sixe and length, moves well for a bigger kid and his frame will allow him to add much more good weight and size. I can see Gamble getting to the 300 pounds mark pretty easily at the next level while also maintaining his speed and footwork. Gamble has good speed and quickness and was able to show his feet and quickness while pulling in game action. What really caught my attention in scouting Gamble is that he is still a young kid physically and still seems to have a bit of a baby face.....meaning Gamble will continue to grow, develop and mature and I'm excited to see just how much upside and development is ahead for him. In many ways Kellen Gamble could end up becoming a steal down the line for NIU.


Room for improvement? Gamble, like every other offensive linemen will need to continue to work on his overall footwork, speed, quickness along with getting bigger and stronger. Gamble can also work on improving his overall hands and hand usage along with just working on and tweaking his overall pass protection tools. Gamble will need to also get adjusted to playing at the D1 level and the first year or two is always a struggle for high school additions to any college roster.

Projected level: Rivals has yet to rank Kellen Gamble in it's Class of 2026 rankings. Look for Rivals to update his rankings shortly.

EDGYTIM Recommended Initial Rankings: I like the overall package here along with his upside for more growth and development for Kellen Gamble. NIU in particular has done a really good job of panning for gold when it comes to it's recruiting approach and philosophy. NIU looks for players with speed and upside physically....and Kellen Gamble in many ways is a prime example of a kid that several other schools might have missed on. I would list Kellen Gamble as a mid 3 star recruit to begin and someone who can have a chance to raise his ranking this coming summer and fall.

My Evaluation: Andrew 2026 OL Jake Palucki

Name: Jake Palucki

Position: OL

High School: Andrew

Graduation Year: 2026

Height: 6-foot-5

Weight: 270 pounds

Recruiting Status: Committed to Toledo. Palucki committed to Toledo after drawing offers and attention from several Group of 5 schools and was also on several Big 10/Power 4 school recruiting lists. Palucki chose Toledo over serious interest from Memphis, Miami of Ohio and Coastal Carolina, and was also in contact with the likes of Purdue. Minnesota and others.

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I was able to see Jake Palucki at a few camps/showcase events over the last few seasons, yet I have not seen him in live game action yet. Palucki has really good eyeball passing size and looks to have a frame and length which will allow him to gain more good weight and size at the college level. I've spoken to Palucki a handful of times and he's an intelligent, well spoken young man who hails from a very solid Tinley Park Andrew Thunderbolts program.

Evaluation of Jake Palucki

Palucki is a good sized, physically advanced interior offensive linemen who I feel just does several things welll and also still has quite a bit of development ahead of him over the next few seasons. Palucki has very good size/strength and is also a very strong and physical at the point of attack who is also a well above average finisher, especially in the run game. Palucki moves pretty well for a bigger kid, has a very solid first few steps and has very strong lower body strength and base. Palucki has very active hands and also uses his hands consistently well against opposing defensive linemen. Palucki also looks to have a frame and build that will allow him to add a bit more good weight and strength at the D1 level.

Room for improvement? Palucki again will need to improve his overall speed, quickness and bend to be able to adjust and compete against older/more experienced defensive linemen. Palucki played in a pretty run heavy Andrew offense over the past few seasons, so his ability to take his overall pass pro technique and fundamentals to a higher level will be a big emphasis for him from here on out. Again these are all things every high school level offensicve linemen will need to focus and improve upon, so in general I see very little major issues/flaws with Palucki's game here. Palucki will also need to focus on improving his overall bend/pad level and more importantly maintaining that lower bend and pad level on a more consistent basis.

Projected level: Rivals has yet to rank Jake Palucki in it's Class of 2026 rankings. Look for Rivals to update his rankings shortly.

EDGYTIM Recommended Initial Rankings: Again not sure why Jake Palucki has yet to receive a star ranking from Rivals (recent personnel issues/changes no question had played a role here) but he is no question a worthy rankings cndidate. I like Jake Paluci to be ranked as a mid level 3 star interior offensive linemen in the State of Illinois Class of 2026. Palucki's overall physical ability, upside and room for more growth and development is clearly evident in my opinion. Look for Palucki to also get a closer look at his 2025 senior season early video and Palucki I feel could draw some potential late lower to mid level Big 10 attention this summer and early fall.

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2025 season

Alright football board is going to be slow. Official start of IHSA season begins tomorrow. What's everyone's thoughts on the year? Teams you want to highlight?

From what I've read in off-season, teams that look to be loaded again in no particular order:

Mt. Carmel
Provi
Edwardsville
Rice
Naz
JCA

Interested in McHenry, Huntley. Fox Valley in general could be strong this year.

LWE has the Bauer train going this year, they could be better. Minooka has studs. LWW with Essenburg and other D1 arms will probably be good. Lockport looked young last year and could be very tough.

Love baseball season!

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WB6 enrollment '25-'26

Just some random posting of information. Overall, most of the schools saw a drop in a enrollment numbers. I know Sterling was over 1,000 students in 2018, and now 7 years later is under 900. Looking forward to seeing the schedules when they come out, specially with Alleman announcing that they will play a varsity football schedule.

School: 2025-26 (2023-2024) difference

Moline: 1938 (2093) -155

United Township: 1869 (1740) +129

Quincy: 1785 (1876) -91

Rock Island: 1704 (1686) +18

Galesburg: 1120 (1232) -112

Sterling: 890 (978) -88

Geneseo: 794 (840) -46

Alleman: 285 (329) -44
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