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2025 Central State Eight Updates.

Thank Rat for that info. Personally I would like to see SHG follow Rochester's lead and drop CBC and at least attempt to find a different week one game. I don't see how getting your tail kicked 45-0 helps your team or the program. Maybe in past years this may have worked out, but they are a school of basically 500 students now and I think they would be better off finding a different week one game. Just my opinion and I'm sure there are others that feel differently.

2025 Central State Eight Updates.

All.... Instead of putting general information on the old CS8 2024 thread I figured start a new one for those that follow CS8 football on this board. A couple on non con updates. Jacksonville will host Highland week 1 Friday 8-29. A nice pickup for the Crimsons.

Rochester will not be playing Cardinal Ritter again in their week two game. The Rockets have filled that date and will be on the road at Mt. Zion Friday September 5th. Rochester will play at home week 1 against Gibson Southern out of Indiana on Saturday August 30 at 2pm. Rockets will be 2-0 as they enter the following week into CS8 East play. Ratsy
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Please don’t let this happen

The best public schools in Texas recruit more than the Illinois privates do lol. Plenty of boosters with tons of $$$ moving in talent.
No doubt. Texas is on another level in many ways. There are multiple large metro areas across the state.
I was more looking at what they have for medium size and smaller schools in the 300-800 range. The ones you don’t normally hear about like Duncanville, Carroll, North Shore, DeSoto…. The 300-~800 (more likely up to about 5A) range here in IL is where most of the angst comes from, and is also the range where I’ve heard multiple CCL fans/supporters on this message board express opinions that would sympathize with the public side.

Please don’t let this happen

I agree Dr.
I don’t want to see it split either, but as long as Privates are allowed to recruit and Publics can’t the two sides will never agree. It’s heading that way and unless the IHSA comes up with a magical formula that both sides agree. I see the split happening in a few years. Anyone who thinks recruiting isn’t a huge advantage is just lying.
Anyone who doesn’t think public schools recruit is lying…just saying. It’s only going to get worse and the gap regardless of public/private will continue to grown from top teams to good teams, IMO.

Please don’t let this happen

I’ve said many times that I’m not looking for separation, but Texas is near the pinnacle of school ball and they are separated. I get to hear about it fairly often from one of my best childhood/high school friends, who now has lived in the Dallas area for the past 25 years as a teacher and formerly a football coach/now a ref. The only difference is that in Texas, the big public schools are considered better, but I haven’t done the research to find out if the small/medium size schools have much head to head to compare.
I agree Dr.
I don’t want to see it split either, but as long as Privates are allowed to recruit and Publics can’t the two sides will never agree. It’s heading that way and unless the IHSA comes up with a magical formula that both sides agree. I see the split happening in a few years. Anyone who thinks recruiting isn’t a huge advantage is just lying.
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High School Football Coach Fired After Asking Team To Work Out And Lift Weights In Offseason

I pasted what I had written into ChatGPT and the damn thing pretty much nailed what my intentions were!
Here is what it came back with:

It sounds like you're discussing a scenario where certain school administrations, may prioritize sports as a secondary activity rather than a competitive, achievement-driven program. In such cases, sports are seen as part of extracurricular activities, mainly for recreational purposes, with little focus on winning or achieving excellence. This can lead to a culture of apathy surrounding athletics, as you noted, where both the administration and the student body are less engaged with striving for success in sports.

Your concern about these schools attempting to impose their model on others raises an important point about differing educational philosophies. The mindset you're describing seems to be more prevalent in schools where sports are not viewed as a priority. In these schools, the lack of emphasis on competitiveness can be seen as a reflection of the larger educational and community culture, which may value academic achievement or personal development over athletic success.

As for the broader question of how many schools in Illinois operate with this mindset, it would likely vary depending on the district. Illinois, like many states, has a wide range of schools with differing resources, community values, and priorities. Urban schools may have different attitudes toward sports compared to rural or suburban schools. Some districts, particularly those with more funding or strong sports traditions, may place a greater emphasis on achieving success in athletics, while others may be more focused on creating a well-rounded experience for students, where sports are simply one piece of the puzzle.

There are certainly examples of schools that share a similar perspective to the one you described in Will County High School, where the culture around athletics reflects a lack of interest in competitiveness or a broader indifference from the administration. However, it is hard to quantify how widespread this mindset is without further research or data on individual districts.

In Illinois, some schools and districts are known for their competitive athletic programs, particularly in larger cities or those with a history of strong sports traditions. For example, schools in areas like Chicago, Naperville, or Oak Park might have a more serious commitment to sports, whereas smaller, rural schools may operate with fewer resources, leading to a more relaxed attitude towards competition.

Your perspective touches on a common issue within educational policy discussions: how can schools balance the value of sports with the overall educational experience, and should those with a less competitive mindset try to impose their model on those that emphasize athletic success more?

In summary, while the mindset you describe may be prevalent in certain Illinois districts, especially in smaller or less competitive schools, it's certainly not universal. How many schools adopt this mindset would require a closer look at each district's approach to athletics and community values.
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