You really don't consider coaches to be role models for our student-athletes? Obviously not all coaches are great role models, but some of the coaches I had over the years are still some of my greatest role models. I would say the same thing about some of the coaches my kids have had over the years. These people are educating our kids and spending many hours with them during very formative years. I don't compare them to professional athletes in any way and I believe teachers and coaches should be held to a higher standard.
What Change in HS Football Would Surprise You the Most?
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You really don't consider coaches to be role models for our student-athletes? Obviously not all coaches are great role models, but some of the coaches I had over the years are still some of my greatest role models. I would say the same thing about some of the coaches my kids have had over the years. These people are educating our kids and spending many hours with them during very formative years. I don't compare them to professional athletes in any way and I believe teachers and coaches should be held to a higher standard.
Hmmmm...What change in HS football would surprise me the most???
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True...and I agree to an extent that coaches and teachers are role models but the most powerful and influential role model should be parents and older siblings.
I am pretty sure everyone would agree on that point.
The NFHS Football Rule Book, Rule 9 (conduct of players and others), Section 8 (non-contact unsportsmanlike conduct by non-players), Article 1 (using profanity, insulting or vulgar language or gestures) addresses this exact problem. As is the case before most seasons, this could be made one of the "points of emphasis" covered at the required rules interpretation meetings that coaches and officials attend each season. Additionally, the word would spread again during those customary pre-season scrimmage sessions where the officials speak to the player and coach groups about emphasized enforcements for the coming season. Just apply the rules that are in place with the prescribed consequences.
So, if a kid drops a pass and says "Shit!", this should be a penalty? I'm thinking you guys mean that the refs should have some discretion on the words being used and the context they're being used in and if they are being directed at opposing players or officials.
Foul language - nasty stuff - was not something I was around on the field.
Coaches Cussing wasn’t something shocking but it was not used for “filler words” - it was more genuine emotion, often anger at an imperfection. Rarely - but it happened - God was added before damn. That meant the coach was particularly angry.
Horse excrement was an apt descriptor used on occasion.
The one generally accepted, flippantly used terms was a Coach Schott favorite and it was a very good way to describe the duties of a stunting linebacker: Ya betta shit an’ git.
Coaches Cussing wasn’t something shocking but it was not used for “filler words” - it was more genuine emotion, often anger at an imperfection. Rarely - but it happened - God was added before damn. That meant the coach was particularly angry.
Horse excrement was an apt descriptor used on occasion.
The one generally accepted, flippantly used terms was a Coach Schott favorite and it was a very good way to describe the duties of a stunting linebacker: Ya betta shit an’ git.
I agree with you about a higher standard. all I am trying to say. swearing or talking to be demeaning or demoralizing, yes is bad no doubt.
swearing to me is for emotion emphasizing a point. and, yes i get what you are saying about good people around you being able to shape your lives in someway. and that some can be looked up to in that format. but again, I am not seeking out a coach/program to mold my kids. that is my job. and if they get a good person in their lives along the way, that teaches values, sportsmanship and is good influence. that it is just gravy.
Easy big dog.
Like it or not coaches are looked up to by the kids. They have authority and the kids know this. Acting like an adult jackass in front of the kids that your supposedly teaching isn’t right. Liberal I am not, I agree parents are responsible for how their kids act and they should take responsibility but we don’t need to have idiot coach dropping F bombs as their 1st language. What type of example are they setting?
look, I do not care if kids look up to anyone. my kids were taught to make up their own minds. I know you are not liberal, my words were typical liberal thinking.
and we dont need kids smoking crack in the bathrooms what is your point. if your language is not demeaning or demoralizing who does hurt?
I don't care if you swear or not. and as I said.
swearing is used more for an emotional booster trying to get a point across.( see jackass above)
not being derogatory and/or demeaning. you can be just as bad a coach and not swear.
the only good coach is one that teaches teamwork, sportsmanship, and some good old fashion values.
I do not care how you get your point across.
You don’t care. Okay but not everyone thinks like you. I bet the same coaches cursing and dropping F bombs wouldn’t do it if their parents were around.
Would those same coaches talk to a parent or another adult like that. No! All this said not all coaches act out like this and are very successful with out the profanity.
We see things a little differently but hey that’s what makes the world go around.
What change would I like to see?
I'd like to see the Naz fan base finally get the respect they so richly deserve.
I'd like to see the Naz fan base finally get the respect they so richly deserve.
This article may be of interest as it describes a recent attempt to implement a statewide zero tolerance policy for profanity use:
https://www.referee.com/north-carolina-draws-the-line/
https://www.referee.com/north-carolina-draws-the-line/
Iowa Basketball coach Fran McCaffery suspended 2 games for profane outburst at refs.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nc...outburst-at-refs/ar-BBU9wn3?OCID=ansmsnnews11
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nc...outburst-at-refs/ar-BBU9wn3?OCID=ansmsnnews11
I know I'm the minority here, but I was never bothered by playing at another teams field and I played at the old SR and ESL in the playoffs. Yes the ride to ESL was an inconvenience, but the fan part of it didn't really bother me. If your fan base travels well then it shouldn't be too much of an advantage for the home team.
Noise is just that, noise. Most high school fans don't make a sizeable difference on the field.
The biggest advantage is when a team goes somewhere for the first time, particularly when it is completely different atmosphere...I have seen teams that were clearly intimidated by the atmosphere of playing at Wilmington. Surprisingly, it wasn't Westmont or Reed-Custer, who you can tell are just expecting to get their butts kicked. My favorite was Chicago Corliss. To start, I'm thinking Corliss doesn't play on grass much. Sitting in the stands with 4 minutes to kickoff, the body language of the Corliss players as the Wildcats run into the woods at the south end of the stadium instead of the locker room was like..what? Then the Harley tunnel, with the students forming the tunnel on the field, then AC/DC & fireworks...Something tells me the Corliss kids are wondering if some kid is going to run over out of the tunnel and knife them...And then the cannon gets fired...I would assume that a similar result would happen if an I-8 school played Corliss at Gately (although the cannon fire would be outside the stadium, not inside).
I'm just going to say "Bad Wildcats" and leave it at that.
Perhaps the Corliss players read the big sign saying "BEWARE WHAT COMES OUT OF THE WOODS"...and took it seriously...lol
The layout of Becker Field at Reents Stadium is perfect for this player pregame run-through...The old abandoned cinder track allows for the tunnel. The rest of the conference has tried ramping up their pregame run-throughs, but fireworks alone does not create a great atmosphere. Maybe Streator Bulldogs outta the Sewer Plant?
I am sorry, but teams running through an inflatable helmet always looks "cheezy" to me. Absent a tunnel, or reasonable facsimile, a dignified slow team march beats the aforementioned IMHO. See especially, LWE procession in front of the home bleachers covering the width of the track with many, many waves of players.
You would have to see a Wilmington home game to really understand what this means.
But a Chicago public school team travelling to the middle of farmer nowhere and watching this has to have a HUGE impression.
Like they were thinking:
Before - I wonder if we are going to get out of here with a Win.
After - I wonder if we are going to get out Alive.
That's why I said "Bad Wildcats!".
A lil birdie just told me, that ESL will be traveling in August, 2019, to the cotton fields of Southwest Georgia!
My lil alma mater was willing to play Vista Murrieta, Calif., Tampa Plant, Hoover, Bishop Sullivan, Va., South Panola, Miss., American Heritage Plantation, and TRINITY CATHOLIC, MO.
In 2015, my alma mater was forced into an equal seeded coin flip, and lost all three in round 2, 3, and 4! And in the interim, trekked some 2000 total miles in the playoffs, while ending up playing in the state title 220 miles from home, against a lower seed, who was twenty miles from home. With those obstacles to overcome, we fortunately finished our two season 30-0 run, and a national title, anyhow!
SURELY you JEST? It took an act of Congress, to keep our coach from being suspended for a YEAR! For headbutting a helmet clad player on the sidelines, with his BARE head, that required stitches! It got the player's attention though! After that occurred, the team went from a tight 21-14 lead in the second quarter, to a 52-31 rout in the 7A state semis, against a nationally ranked opponent!
Maybe THAT'S what's wrong with MY team! We don't have ANY pregame shenanigans to speak of, except touching the statue of that WILD BOAR in the endzone(a la Howard's Rock at Clemson) And running through the SAME banner all season long! But after the opening whistle, ALL bets are OFF, HIDE the women and children!
I see that you haven't experienced the crowds of the LIL S E C in South Georgia? At DEATH VALLEY, in Valdosta! They have fifty rows on the homeside, and half of the visitor's stands, are season reserved for the VCATS!
OK if I have to read 5 of your posts in a row, could you make it a little more clear who your "alma mater(s)" are.Maybe THAT'S what's wrong with MY team! We don't have ANY pregame shenanigans to speak of, except touching the statue of that WILD BOAR in the endzone(a la Howard's Rock at Clemson) And running through the SAME banner all season long! But after the opening whistle, ALL bets are OFF, HIDE the women and children!
Maybe you said, but I missed it.
ESL is going to get a lil culture shock, when they venture to SOWEGA! 5,000 season reserved seats on the homeside! Another 1500 general admission home team seating on the VISITOR'S side, where I sit! Affectionately known as the HOG POUND, which is located about twenty FEET from the opponent's bench! THEN, there is the 700 students sitting in the North endzone!
OK if I have to read 5 of your posts in a row, could you make it a little more clear who your "alma mater(s)" are.
Maybe you said, but I missed it.
NOPE, I was traveling incognito! WE are the Colquitt County Packers!
We'd stop there on the way back from Florida to pick up Vidalia onions, that's all I know about Valdosta.
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