We're 17th! (and you're not)

[crusader_of_90]

My intention for this thread was to counterbalance threads that were created to boast about one team as a way to backhand slap another. The creator and thread contributors seemed to have a "goal" with that rhetoric.

So I created this thread - put the spotlight directly on ESL and their accomplishments.

In hindsight, I should have made it a two-team spotlight thread and gone with the angle of TWO IL TEAMS IN USA TODAY TOP 25!!!

The "and you're not" - I added that because the above-mentioned threads pissed me off quite a bit.

And to anyone who bemoans only 17th in the nation, shoot, you can only wish. Look at the few number of states on that list ... for IL to have two reps, be happy and proud ... don't be jealous.

 

[LTHSALUM76]

We were #2 and we fully destroyed #3. Relatively speaking, LWE, wasn't that impressive against #4.

This is your logic? How do you know number 4 against LWE wouldn't destroy number 3 against MC? This is an absolutely silly argument to make. You sound like a HS kid.

 

[Oop-dee-oop_4]

My intention for this thread was to counterbalance threads that were created to boast about one team as a way to backhand slap another. The creator and thread contributors seemed to have a "goal" with that rhetoric.

So I created this thread - put the spotlight directly on ESL and their accomplishments.

In hindsight, I should have made it a two-team spotlight thread and gone with the angle of TWO IL TEAMS IN USA TODAY TOP 25!!!

The "and you're not" - I added that because the above-mentioned threads pissed me off quite a bit.

And to anyone who bemoans only 17th in the nation, shoot, you can only wish. Look at the few number of states on that list ... for IL to have two reps, be happy and proud ... don't be jealous.

Ah...I didn't realize it was a shot at those claiming LWE is better than ESL.

Carry on.

 

[MC63]

Wrong. They didn't play or beat LWE. Just your opinion...not a fact.

For someone who throws opinions around, well ...

 

[MC63]

This is your logic? How do you know number 4 against LWE wouldn't destroy number 3 against MC? This is an absolutely silly argument to make. You sound like a HS kid.

You sound like that former wrestling coach now working in DC. Lots of noise doesn't support you.

 

[pjjp]

We were #2 and we fully destroyed #3. Relatively speaking, LWE, wasn't that impressive against #4.

Yeah, but LWE won 8A, so their title holds greater significance by the MC63 scale of accomplishment.

 

[Oop-dee-oop_4]

Yeah, but LWE won 8A, so their title holds greater significance by the MC63 scale of accomplishment.

Zing.

 

[MC63]

Yeah, but LWE won 8A, so their title holds greater significance by the MC63 scale of accomplishment.

We play in 7A … right where we should be. Unlike some schools represented on this board, we don't coast through a playoff schedule of lesser programs.

Nor do we use some cheap excuse like "our conference won't let us play up,' The premier program in a league should have actual leverage.

Your cheap shot fell short.

 

[mchsalumni]

Mt Carmel proved itself #1 in the state on the field.

National prep rankings are a marketing gimmick.

I'm going to say this one time. Stay off the drugs son.

 

[mchsalumni]

We were #2 and we fully destroyed #3. Relatively speaking, LWE, wasn't that impressive against #4.

MC scores exactly 3 points against LWE. Maybe. Likely shut out.

 

[TigerforFlyers]

We play in 7A … right where we should be. Unlike some schools represented on this board, we don't coast through a playoff schedule of lesser programs.

Nor do we use some cheap excuse like "our conference won't let us play up,' The premier program in a league should have actual leverage.

Your cheap shot fell short.

I never realized that being “compliant” with the law could be viewed as anything other than honorable. Especially when previous actions taken prove otherwise, before the legislative measure ensued. But, WTH do I know?

I’m here to learn. Please keep professing.

Damned if we do, damned if we don’t. SMH

 

[crusader_of_90]

No to be a D ... "compliant" is what you meant.

Complicit means involved with others in illegal activity or wrongdoing.

 

[flyerforlife]

We play in 7A … right where we should be. Unlike some schools represented on this board, we don't coast through a playoff schedule of lesser programs.

Nor do we use some cheap excuse like "our conference won't let us play up,' The premier program in a league should have actual leverage.

Your cheap shot fell short.

You are really proving your mental state.

 

[LHSTigers94]

We play in 7A … right where we should be. Unlike some schools represented on this board, we don't coast through a playoff schedule of lesser programs.

Nor do we use some cheap excuse like "our conference won't let us play up,' The premier program in a league should have actual leverage.

Your cheap shot fell short.

You can play 8A at any time right?

 

[epicbret]

Bama was such a good comparison

 

[MC63]

I never realized that being “compliant” with the law could be viewed as anything other than honorable. Especially when previous actions taken prove otherwise, before the legislative measure ensued. But, WTH do I know?

I’m here to learn. Please keep professing.

Damned if we do, damned if we don’t. SMH

Conference rules on playoffs aren't exactly "the law." Get real.

 

[MC63]

You can play 8A at any time right?

Fine with me.

 

[MC63]

I'm going to say this one time. Stay off the drugs son.

You get more and more clever.

Well done!

 

[TigerforFlyers]

Conference rules on playoffs aren't exactly "the law." Get real.

I’m really trying to “Get real” by learning from you. What should the Flyers have done? Tell me all about petitioning to play up, seeing that you have so much experience.

 

[Solid Snake Pliskin]

I can't necessarily fault ESL for not opting up given the conference rules, especially considering they are one of, I think, three schools to have utilized the option in football. I did however previously ask what the consequence would be if they were to break that rule.

 

[crusader_of_90]

Nor do we use some cheap excuse like "our conference won't let us play up,' The premier program in a league should have actual leverage..

How can you stand behind this statement?

You are saying ESL should hold sway in the conference BECAUSE of their success? That’s imbecilic and naive.

 

[greatgig13]

I only read this fish wrap when I get it free at The Country Inn and Suites but props to ESL for making their list.

 

[MC63]

You are saying ESL should hold sway in the conference BECAUSE of their success? That’s imbecilic and naive.[/QUOTE]

Holding "sway" in you conference is being realistic. With all those records, you should have more than just a bit of influence.

 

[MC63]

I can't necessarily fault ESL for not opting up given the conference rules, especially considering they are one of, I think, three schools to have utilized the option in football. I did however previously ask what the consequence would be if they were to break that rule.

Great question.

 

[crusader_of_90]

You are saying ESL should hold sway in the conference BECAUSE of their success? That’s imbecilic and naive.

Four state championships in a calendar year.

But 99.9 percent black and 100 percent poor. So they have no voice in the conference.

 

[LTHSALUM76]

You sound like that former wrestling coach now working in DC. Lots of noise doesn't support you.

Just gotta throw that thinly veiled political aspect to it don't you?

 

[LTHSALUM76]

For someone who throws opinions around, well ...

The difference is that I acknowledge my opinions as just that...an opinion. But you, on the other hand, act as if your opinion not only trumps all other opinions, but you think your opinion is fact. Just because you call it fact, doesn't make it so.

 

[crusader_of_90]

I only read this fish wrap when I get it free at The Country Inn and Suites but props to ESL for making their list.

If I go cheap on the hotel, USA Today greets me. A little higher end, the local paper.

 

[doctor_d]

Week 1 2020 can’t come soon enough.

 

[Blue Ruin]

MC scores exactly 3 points against LWE

If you had bothered to see the game, you wouldn't be saying that. They could have beaten anyone that night, even IMG and those California teams. You're just mad because they beat Montini. And then they kept on winning and getting better, playing their best game of the year in the final contest.

 

[MC63]

Four state championships in a calendar year.

But 99.9 percent black and 100 percent poor. So they have no voice in the conference.

No voice?

Certainly, you must know that of all the guys on this board, I wasn't born yesterday.

C'mon.

 

[Blue Ruin]

A little higher end, the local paper.

I get the Trib and the NYT online.

 

[MC63]

If you had seen the game, you wouldn't have said that. They could have beaten anyone that night, even IGA and those California teams.

Not just those nights.

 

[epicbret]

Not just those nights.

Heavens no.

Nowhere near the national top 10. And I watched them thump Nazareth, yes.

 

[USD24]

If you had bothered to see the game, you wouldn't be saying that. They could have beaten anyone that night, even IGA and those California teams. You're just mad because they beat Montini. They then kept winning and kept getting better, playing their best game of the year in the final contest.

I hope they could beat IGA. I'm pretty sure it's a grocery store.

 

[LTHSALUM76]

I get the Trib and the NYT online.

I get the Trib, Sun Times and our local Herald News daily. I see the USA Today three or four times a week. I always get the Friday Weekend edition. I get the Wall Street Journal once in a while but I get it every Saturday. I think that's their best edition. Every once in a great while when I really need to read some fiction, I get the NYT on a Saturday. But I get fiction daily in the Sun Times news section.

 

[mchsalumni]

Bama was such a good comparison

100% delusional.

Beat a pretty marginal Montini team 27-20 on their home court. I'm pretty sure MC could beat the 49ers right now, but the 49ers are in 8A. Such a shame.

 

[mchsalumni]

Great question.

They could be bounced from the conference. Not like there are a ton of options in this area.

Did your parents have any children who lived?

 

[mchsalumni]

If you had bothered to see the game, you wouldn't be saying that. They could have beaten anyone that night, even IGA and those California teams. You're just mad because they beat Montini. They then kept winning and kept getting better, playing their best game of the year in the final contest.

I'm not mad about anything. Just because I saw a decent team who SHOULD beat Montini 9 out of 10 times throw up a pretty average game should not be a surprise. They also looked decent in the two other games I saw but hardly world beaters. You guys keep pressing this team as the greatest thing since sliced bread. I saw a pretty decent team but this ain't even close to the best team in the state. If it is the best team in the state, we are pretty much screwed in terms of football capability. Sorry, not sorry?

 

[mchsalumni]

Heavens no.

Nowhere near the national top 10. And I watched them thump Nazareth, yes.

These guys need to share whatever they are smoking...