This is what made it not a bet. The other side had no risk. It was more a challenge.
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Naz played 6A not 5A in 2014. Also for a school who has never won a thing and has never even gotten past the quarter finals why would they petition up.
We're back to the same discussion. Didn't say they should request up. The IHSA did what they could to keep the two together, I prefer them together at the top classes, but neither side is ever going to see the current system as fair.
Because I'm pragmatic I understand, even though I don't necessarily want it, that a playoff split would be equitable. I realize to some that makes me enemy #1 without addressing the actual argument.
I am against playoff split. Reason is come playoffs I love going to new stadiums and see different programs no matter what the class.
I completely understand that angle. Best part about the playoffs is seeing new teams, towns, stadiums, traditions, etc. A split would provide that for you maybe for a few years, but then would probably get repetitive. For me, I'd want to see Loyola or Naz or Rice etc every so often.
But that's me talking as a fan of one of the largest schools in the country with a history of talent. The Dwight HS "me" probably doesn't see a chance to compete.
Correct, but the private school fans do not see that angle, they do not see or care about the difference between Dwight and Mac or a Coal City and an IC. In the bigger classes the difference is not as noticeable, in the smaller classes it is huge. So not only is it a private vs public issue, but also a Chicagoland vs a downstate issue. My two cents.
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Funny thing is they do know, just not when it doesn't suit them.
The testing #'s thread is the perfect place to see it. They know if they have a good football class coming in. Some of them filter out the riff Raff. Some have selective enrollment where you have to get a certain score apparently, etc which is fine, but it shows they know the enrollments are completely different...only in that thread. But in the threads about classification suddenly the enrollments are the same.
No, the issue is you lost a bet and didn't pay. Simple. Maybe no one taught you this is not a good idea?
Show me one post where I am critical of the multiplier or success factor. If you find one I will pay $100 to the charity of your choice. If you don't, $100 to Montini.
It's tribalism. That challenge had nothing to do with anything, but now you have to scramble to find a reason to support a garbage human being that has been exposed in lie after lie.
You go ahead and keep that, but you show me one post where you defended it to a private guy whining about it like ramblin or jwar.
Say it isn't so Voodoo the pot stirrer! Don't quit on us just yet, We need your input, encouragement, keen hindsight, good looks, etc.... to spice up this thread.
BTW, Mark the toilet vortex was classic and I got a good laugh on what is becoming a little repetitious discussion over bets, Jwar obssession, and some insidious by play between posters who obviously don't like each other. Wasn't that a long run on sentence or should I have cut in into two sentences. Any English majors who correct this for me. Also another BTW, I still think Johnsburg would have kicked Hershers butt, the previous year, last year and this year too. Does anyone know where a good Golden corral is located in the Southwest Suburbs????
BTW, Mark the toilet vortex was classic and I got a good laugh on what is becoming a little repetitious discussion over bets, Jwar obssession, and some insidious by play between posters who obviously don't like each other. Wasn't that a long run on sentence or should I have cut in into two sentences. Any English majors who correct this for me. Also another BTW, I still think Johnsburg would have kicked Hershers butt, the previous year, last year and this year too. Does anyone know where a good Golden corral is located in the Southwest Suburbs????
I've defended it countless times on this board and my stance is well known by most posters on this board, particularly regulars longer than a few years. So your all-inclusive statement about private posters is incorrect. So you move the goalposts.
*Sees no quote*
But also is beside the point as my previous post clearly says some.
Why do I return to this thread and continue reading this nonsense. What a disaster.
Here’s my English lesson Gene...the above words constitute an oxymoron.
Assuming you are lumping me in as a Jwar supporter and since I’m not a private school guy, I’m curious what Jwar believes politically. If he’s not a flag burning far left liberal progressive socialist atheist and he’s not a religious fanatic far right war mongering conservative, than you might be on to something.
Well, he's in other threads fighting the war against Christmas (after a career of bearing false witness none the less), you have acknowledged that saving a few bucks is more important than other people's rights and freedoms (see North Carolina, I believe that was the state you were championing).
It's plain as day. I am still awaiting your post, maybe I missed it, telling jwar to stop being an asshat.
Do you expect us to like the multiplier and defend it as you do? That ain't happening. I grudgingly accept the multiplier, as long as there is no success factor applied solely to non-boundaried schools. Frankly, give me the success factor and no multiplier.
What frosts my ass are public school apologists like you who CONTINUE TO WHINE about unlevel playing fields 14 years after the multiplier was instituted. You got your way, then you CONTINUED TO WHINE and you got your success factor on top of that. Still, that's not enough for you. You continue to whine.
Bunch of babies. Grow up. Pay up.
Tribalism has nothing to do with my beef with you. Truth be told, I have no idea what your current beef with jwar is all about, and I don't care. My only interest in this thread came after another poster made me realize that you had never made good on your word to donate $1000 to Naz.
[Throws stone at jwar]
Mr. Asshat, please stop.
[Lashes bare back while praying to tribal gods]
Mr. Asshat, please stop.
[Lashes bare back while praying to tribal gods]
It's all tribalism. It has nothing to do with you but you see a chance to shakedown someone for a G to a private school so you're all for it. You're basically HHS for private schools.
The guy said he was never critical of the multiplier, but that's not enough for you? You expect him to defend it against people who are critical of it?
You obviously won't be satisfied relative to private schools and the multiplier until private school supporters bend over and say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
What a crock of crap.
SHAKE DOWN? Bones, you put in writing what you said you would do. Nobody held a gun to your head to write what you wrote. You OFFERED it as a challenge, and you have not honored it after having been proven wrong. How is that a shake down?
You've got a very peculiar recollection of what I "acknowledged". I don't see a quote that fully supports that recollection and you won't find one because it's purely your subjective interpretation. Since you're clearly a brainwashed liberal claiming the moral high ground on all aspects of a political debate and hung up on labeling everyone who disagrees with you on any given subject, I would expect nothing less.
As for the quote from me telling jwar to stop being an asshat, I acknowledge that won't be found.
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Technically, he was not wrong as Morris did not have 6 D1 kids on that team, what they had was 6 kids that would eventually be D1 kids on that team. Just sayin.
You issued a public challenge. You should either pay up and prove that you have done so, or slink away with your tail between your legs never to return. It's bad enough that you are a welsher, and far worse that you have the shameless audacity to show your face as often as you do in the very arena in which you have welshed.
Why, did he welsh too?
Truth be told, I am not following that argument, nor do I care to. jwar and I have definitely had our none-too-friendly battles over the years.
1. I disagree with @ramblinman on the multiplier and have no problem endorsing it
2. I disagree with @ramblinman on success factor and have no problem endorsing it
3. You are a whiner who continues to move the goalposts
Good?
Dishonesty and lack of trust are the same thing. And honestly, if I made a bet with someone and lost, then found out later that the person I bet with has no credibility, I would not feel bad about not paying up.
