Q of the Week: So what's the fix?

[refref01]

There should not be a two year cycle and for privates if they win the class one year they automatically move up the next. MC should have moved to 8A two years ago and not won 3 in a row (in 7A). Same with Naz. If they do not play on the final week the success factor is removed.

Enrollments should be annual based on opening day. I have no clue why that is so hard.

All privates are multiplied. If you don't win a playoff game for three consecutive years you are not multiplied. Marist and Brother Rice moving down in classes is absurd as Marist should have knocked out Loyola and BR beat MC (I know there is an asterisk) and was a dropped pass away from beating LA at LA.

Seeding 1-32 doesn't do anything in regard to who wins just may make for better championship games.

The home team thing is also an issue. The higher seed should play at home.

Seeding should be based more on SOS then wins and losses.

Private schools are getting better because the public schools in certain areas have awful programs and youth football is becoming more of a travel sport then it once was so players are being found earlier......and then there are transfers.

 

[Formicidae13]

I think 1-32 is overhyped as a solution.

There are some cases where it would pay off, such as giving a path to Byron vs Montini in the 3A title game this year. But it also would have turned Joliet Catholic vs Naz into a quarterfinal in 5A instead of the final. Changing to 1-32 just shakes up the pool a little bit and gives a chance at better state final matchup. That shakeup also comes with a chance at some extreme travel distances.

It’s just a big game of Press Your Luck and I don’t think the benefits out weigh the negatives to most schools. 1-16 is already less geographically based than the playoff system for any other IHSA sport, where we consistently see the same Regionals and Sectionals stacked to the brim.

 

[sac'em]

It’s unlikely this issue will ever be “fixed” because people only seem to care about it when it directly impacts them. If it’s not something that affects you year after year, you won’t see solutions—just complaints. Once someone isn’t personally affected by the system anymore, they quickly lose interest. Even on this forum, people only speak up when their team is impacted; otherwise, it’s crickets.
We keep trying to solve this problem after every Thanksgiving weekend, but nothing changes. The IHSA needs to decide how to address this. They can either stick with the current system or create a new policy that can be voted on, with results that are binding for the next 10 years. After that, they can use data from the next decade to make any necessary changes, based on what has been voted on.

 

[brucealmighy]

With all this talk going on, I got a chuckle yesterday during the Illini game when Jordan Anderson got his 1st carry of the year. Announcer says, "Jordan Anderson, from Naperville", and I was like, "Nah, he went to Joliet Catholic".

He had 4 carries prior to that.

 

[brucealmighy]

I have a crazy idea that will never work but throwing it out there. The coordinator’s circle tweets got me thinking. What does that circle look like for the average student at a private school? How does that circle compare for the football roster? Could there be players that travel from a greater distance than the average student? Could there be some sort of formula to multiply based on distance greater than the average student? Again unlikely but throwing out a wild idea.

I think that is what is most frustrating to fans of public schools. Let’s look at Montini. The Broncos have been a great program for two decades. This years team had over 25 kids that grew up playing for the local Bill George team. That means they are likely from Lombard or Villa Park. The average Montini student comes from those communities along with Downers Grove, Glen Ellyn, Oak Brook, Elmhurst, Hinsdale and other neighboring villages. Yet the quarterback is from Elgin. Naz’s QB is from Bolingbrook. Both of those have to travel a significant distance greater than the average student.

 

[ramblinman]

There is no fix short of complete separation. There just isn't.

Why? Because, in general, the public schools and their followers have become conditioned to whining to get their way.

It's basic child development. When a child whines and gets his or her way, s/he becomes conditioned to whine to get her/his way for everything.

In the case of the public/private debate, it's fine for public schools to get bounced from the playoffs by other public schools, but God help the private schools when they are the ones doing the bouncing. When private schools do the bouncing at any level of the playoffs, the public school whining begins.

When, as a result of public school whining, the public school-dominated IHSA instituted the 30 mile radius limiting private school student athletic eligibility, did the whining end? No. When they instituted the multiplier (at first doing so and violating their own due process rules in their haste to self-pacify) impacting private schools only, did the whining end? No. When they instituted the success factor impacting private schools only, did the whining end? No.

Short of complete separation,  whatever pacifier they come up with this time will not stop the whining.

Give me the NIPL!

 

[HSFootballfan_007]

Another thought would be that once you win a state title at a class you are bumped to the next one and can't go back down. If you are able to win 5A you go to 6A and that is the lowest you can play. If you win 6A you have to play 7A, and so on