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Even if they get 10 wins, it's no guarantee they make the playoffs, although there would be a good chance. I am sure you remember Lovie's last year with the Bears. They won 10 games and didn't make it into the playoffs. In 1988 the 49ers and Giants were both 10-6. The 49ers beat the Giants earlier in the year and gained entry. They then went on to win the Super Bowl. So, one never knows.
I know 10 wins doesn't guarantee a playoff spot. Get 10 wins and I will take the chances on them getting in.
20 teams have missed playoffs since 16 game schedule was put in place in '78, for reference.
 
Should have been...could have been. Whatever. Some of you guys act like the Bears will improve but no one else will.
And you act like no one will regress. Vikings aren't going 17-0, Detroit is about the same as last year, Washington is hot right now but Daniels is still a rookie and will make mistakes.

It's never a guarantee, but I think anything less than 10 wins is a let down.
 
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And you act like no one will regress. Vikings aren't going 17-0, Detroit is about the same as last year, Washington is hot right now but Daniels is still a rookie and will make mistakes.

It's never a guarantee, but I think anything less than 10 wins is a let down.
What I am saying is, you can't assume or hope teams will regress. You have to play as if they will improve too. Who said the Vikings are going 17-0?

If Detroit is the same team as last year then I expect them to sweep the Bears. Because the 2023 version of the Lions is better than the 2024 version of the Bears. You do realize the Lions went to the NFC Championship game and came very close to winning that game, don't you? I am sure everyone in Detroit would love to see that "sameness" again this year.

For all you know, the Bears may regress. There are no certainties. But to just say the Bears are improving and that should get them 10 wins and not say the rest of the teams on their schedule may improve too isn't seeing the whole picture.

Washington has played some good football. But they haven't beaten a good team either. They will get more of a test in Cleveland and Baltimore. All I am saying is, don't look past that game. And it is in Washington.

I am not sure why you worry about the game in London. Both teams have to travel and adjust to the time change. So, blaming the travel or venue will have nothing to do with a loss, should the Bears suffer one.
 
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What I am saying is, you can't assume or hope teams will regress. You have to play as if they will improve too. Who said the Vikings are going 17-0?

If Detroit is the same team as last year then I expect them to sweep the Bears. Because the 2023 version of the Lions is better than the 2024 version of the Bears. You do realize the Lions went to the NFC Championship game and came very close to winning that game, don't you? I am sure everyone in Detroit would love to see that "sameness" again this year.

For all you know, the Bears may regress. There are no certainties. But to just say the Bears are improving and that should get them 10 wins and not say the rest of the teams on their schedule may improve too isn't seeing the whole picture.

Washington has played some good football. But they haven't beaten a good team either. They will get more of a test in Cleveland and Baltimore. All I am saying is, don't look past that game. And it is in Washington.

I am not sure why you worry about the game in London. Both teams have to travel and adjust to the time change. So, blaming the travel or venue will have nothing to do with a loss, should the Bears suffer one.

I get what he is saying regarding the London game. Those games tend to be weird and travel/etc seem to level the playing field over the years, similar to the Thursday games....they are not normal. But yes, they both have to travel, Bears are the better team, they should win but it wouldn't shock or surprise me if they did not.

He wasn't implying anyone said MN is going 17-0, he was saying they will not and so they have Ls coming.

We will see on Wash, I must have missed where people are overlooking that game.

Bears gave DET issues last year. That happens especially with DIV opponents no matter talent level. Don't think it is unrealistic to think Bears get one of those games.
 
I get what he is saying regarding the London game. Those games tend to be weird and travel/etc seem to level the playing field over the years, similar to the Thursday games....they are not normal. But yes, they both have to travel, Bears are the better team, they should win but it wouldn't shock or surprise me if they did not.

He wasn't implying anyone said MN is going 17-0, he was saying they will not and so they have Ls coming.

We will see on Wash, I must have missed where people are overlooking that game.

Bears gave DET issues last year. That happens especially with DIV opponents no matter talent level. Don't think it is unrealistic to think Bears get one of those games.
A couple things. I didn't know you were his spokesman. He can answer questions himself.

I am fully aware that division games are a different animal. And it isn't unrealistic to think the Bears couldn't steal one from Detroit. As far as Washington goes, people need to tell me who these 10 wins are going to come against. That is my point there. But, I am not going to allow anyone to blame a trip to London for a loss. The abnormalities are the same for both teams.

Denver was one place where I could see losses in the past because of the altitude. I remember visiting teams being tired in the 4th quarter and the Broncos won a lot of games late. But now, the Broncos are so bad they can't even use that advantage. And Elway was great regardless of where he played.

If the Bears win 10 games, great! I just can't figure out who they will beat to get there.
 
A couple things. I didn't know you were his spokesman. He can answer questions himself.

I am fully aware that division games are a different animal. And it isn't unrealistic to think the Bears couldn't steal one from Detroit. As far as Washington goes, people need to tell me who these 10 wins are going to come against. That is my point there. But, I am not going to allow anyone to blame a trip to London for a loss. The abnormalities are the same for both teams.

Denver was one place where I could see losses in the past because of the altitude. I remember visiting teams being tired in the 4th quarter and the Broncos won a lot of games late. But now, the Broncos are so bad they can't even use that advantage. And Elway was great regardless of where he played.
I apologize deeply for clarifying what I thought he was saying on a message board, my bad. :rolleyes:

I’m glad you’re aware; it wasn’t breaking news or meant to be. Thank you for agreeing that it’s not unrealistic for the Bears to steal one from DET. They gave them issues last year, so maybe that carries over, or maybe DET smokes them. We’ll see.

As far as Washington goes, well…

Again, no one is blaming a "loss" on the London trip. I specifically said both teams have to travel, etc. But to totally dismiss that the games end up being weird, in my opinion, is very short-sighted. I'd feel more confident with the game being in the US, agree to disagree on that.
 
A couple things. I didn't know you were his spokesman. He can answer questions himself.

I am fully aware that division games are a different animal. And it isn't unrealistic to think the Bears couldn't steal one from Detroit. As far as Washington goes, people need to tell me who these 10 wins are going to come against. That is my point there. But, I am not going to allow anyone to blame a trip to London for a loss. The abnormalities are the same for both teams.

Denver was one place where I could see losses in the past because of the altitude. I remember visiting teams being tired in the 4th quarter and the Broncos won a lot of games late. But now, the Broncos are so bad they can't even use that advantage. And Elway was great regardless of where he played.

If the Bears win 10 games, great! I just can't figure out who they will beat to get there.
The London games are an issue due to the extremely irregular week. Yes, I'm aware that applies to both teams, but Jacksonville has played multiple games over there for a number of years so it's a little more normal for them. I still have that game as a win, but it's not an ideal spot.

I have the Bears winning the next two games, that gets them to 4-2 going into the bye. I have them going 3-3 in the division so that's 7-5. Then they need to go 3-2 against WAS, ARI, NE, SF, and SEA. I think they can do that. I'm not going to get specific with which games they win and which they lose because so much can change between now and when they play those 5 teams. They could upset SF or they could get knocked off by NE, that's all TBD but I think they will go 3-2 against those 5 teams.
 
The London games are an issue due to the extremely irregular week. Yes, I'm aware that applies to both teams, but Jacksonville has played multiple games over there for a number of years so it's a little more normal for them. I still have that game as a win, but it's not an ideal spot.

I have the Bears winning the next two games, that gets them to 4-2 going into the bye. I have them going 3-3 in the division so that's 7-5. Then they need to go 3-2 against WAS, ARI, NE, SF, and SEA. I think they can do that. I'm not going to get specific with which games they win and which they lose because so much can change between now and when they play those 5 teams. They could upset SF or they could get knocked off by NE, that's all TBD but I think they will go 3-2 against those 5 teams.
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We agree on something. 😂
 
The London games are an issue due to the extremely irregular week. Yes, I'm aware that applies to both teams, but Jacksonville has played multiple games over there for a number of years so it's a little more normal for them. I still have that game as a win, but it's not an ideal spot.

I have the Bears winning the next two games, that gets them to 4-2 going into the bye. I have them going 3-3 in the division so that's 7-5. Then they need to go 3-2 against WAS, ARI, NE, SF, and SEA. I think they can do that. I'm not going to get specific with which games they win and which they lose because so much can change between now and when they play those 5 teams. They could upset SF or they could get knocked off by NE, that's all TBD but I think they will go 3-2 against those 5 teams.
Your post makes sense. But, as you know, I have to disagree, slightly. Sitting here this morning, I just don't see the Bears going 3-3 in the division. They would have to split with everyone or sweep someone. I don't see them sweeping any of those teams. All three of those teams are better than the Bears...right now. I think the Bears will be no better than 2-4 in the division.

As for the 3-2 record as they move toward the stretch is very hard to say. ARI and WAS can be so damned hard to figure out. And both of those games are on the road. I think they will win one and lose the other. I see the Bears going 2-3 against those teams. But, I could certainly be wrong about that.

I do not view the Bears as a playoff team right now. That could change, of course. Actually I hope they do find their way into the playoffs. That is a good goal. You may end up being right, too. If I am wrong I will certainly come here and say so. I hope you do the same. I have no problem admitting it when I am wrong. But, unfortunately, I am in the minority here when it comes to that. Most guys here just can't admit being wrong about anything. Still wonder why. But, to me, it comes back to their little, fragile egos. This is exactly what you get from insecure guys. But, whatever.
 
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Your post makes sense. But, as you know, I have to disagree, slightly. Sitting here this morning, I just don't see the Bears going 3-3 in the division. They would have to split with everyone or sweep someone. I don't see them sweeping any of those teams. All three of those teams are better than the Bears...right now. I think the Bears will be no better than 2-4 in the division.

As for the 3-2 record as they move toward the stretch is very hard to say. ARI and WAS can be so damned hard to figure out. And both of those games are on the road. I think they will win one and lose the other. I see the Bears going 2-3 against those teams. But, I could certainly be wrong about that.

I do not view the Bears as a playoff team right now. That could change, of course. Actually I hope they do find their way into the playoffs. That is a good goal. You may end up being right, too. If I am wrong I will certainly come here and say so. I hope you do the same. I have no problem admitting it when I am wrong. But, unfortunately, I am in the minority here when it comes to that. Most guys here just can't admit being wrong about anything. Still wonder why. But, to me, it comes back to their little, fragile egos. This is exactly what you get from insecure guys. But, whatever.
That 3-3 or 2-4 swing in Div is the make or break, imo.
 
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The run defense the last 2/3 weeks sucks. Is Eberflus calling the D?

And when will ATHLETIC Williams just move a foot to the left or right to avoid the sack and gain positive and probable first-down yardage?

We get it: you are a pocket passer but for crying out loud.

I know they just scored, but does Keenan Allen ever run a pattern more than three yards or is his foot in that bad of shape 🤔
 
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I think he looked pretty good on the TD pass but I agree the first series was icky
 
Yes, for sure, but there really was no pressure. He's been timid the last few weeks to get out of that pocket and run.

And I don't understand why? He shouldn't worry: we won't compare him to Fields.
Probably the same reason Fields stopped running. It's coaching
 
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There you go, Caleb. Get that 1st down.

He could have run on the previous play but made a nice pass to Moore. Fields would have run no matter what.
Caleb looks great. The first series was horrible. Why were we passing on 1st down on the 1st play? Let the QB get warmed up up for god sake. It’s Carolina run the damn ball suck the secondary up then pass. Yes where the hell is the run defense. Look the same as last week.
 
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Just because you tripped over a rock once, doesn't mean you're a rock climber
What about the following three runs between the tackles leading to Swifts TD? You're referring to the option play at the goal line and that was an awful call, but it was one play.
 
What about the following three runs between the tackles leading to Swifts TD? You're referring to the option play at the goal line and that was an awful call, but it was one play.
The 4th and inches at midfield where they relied on the motion in the backfield to distract the unblocked backer is what I'm referring to. He then, after that mess, lined up the next drive and pounded it.
 
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