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Provi/SF

I know this will be unpopular in this thread but the correct call should have been to not get a penalty while taking a knee. Even if there shouldn’t have been a loss of down, it was and everybody knew it. At that point with 2 time outs left, you need to try and get a first down to prevent another possession. Anything can happen so don’t chance it. If the coach was confused, he should have taking a time out to get an understanding. The clock had stop with the penalty therefore taking a time out couldn’t hurt. If he wasn’t confused then this thread is pointless as whatever happened was within the rules.
With your opponent having 2 timeouts and 50 seconds on the clock, barring a situation like last night the game is over. Let them burn their 2 timeouts, you’ll be able to run the clock down to just seconds left and then punt out of bounds to bring it to 0:00.

Either way SF will either use this outcome to get better or let it derail a season that still has plenty of promise. Bigger issue is back to back weeks can’t get down 17-0 to Rita and 14-0 to Provi. Up to them now how they respond.

Provi/SF

I think folks want to understand what the heck happened and what the actual correct call should have been...

I know this will be unpopular in this thread but the correct call should have been to not get a penalty while taking a knee. Even if there shouldn’t have been a loss of down, it was and everybody knew it. At that point with 2 time outs left, you need to try and get a first down to prevent another possession. Anything can happen so don’t chance it. If the coach was confused, he should have taking a time out to get an understanding. The clock had stop with the penalty therefore taking a time out couldn’t hurt. If he wasn’t confused then this thread is pointless as whatever happened was within the rules.

Naz 16 Hilltoppers 13 FINAL nm

The wind certainly factored into the scheming of both teams.
Until the Hilltoppers move past committing untimely penalties and adapt to defending those killer slant routes, the boys look to face more disappointment in the coming weeks.
As a team they have shown a lot of growth, but discipline comes with maturity and the mental mistakes reveal that they still have along way to go.
Taking nothing from Naz, but the Hilltoppers certainly beat themselves last night.
Had a commitment last night. Just watched the game. Very winnable game, as you suggested, that was lost due to untimely penalties (false starts etc.) and coverage breakdowns. And the end of half clock management and play calling was head scratching.
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ICE Week 5

When you go to a game, look to see how many 4th graders are there wearing the school's colors and actually watching the game. That's where the success in 8 years comes from. If there aren't many, there won't be success except in rare cases. That's what culture does and is.
I agree with this, but will also say that during their run, the Vomets had amazing turn out and youths in their black and gold were evident everywhere.

CS8 Predictions-Week 4

Your town is a parasite, literally. Without Springfield, Rochester is another 8-man doormat.

Who's mad? This is hilarious. Rent free in your head and you're not even in our division... 🤣 This is a poor look for the dominant program in the conference honestly. Do you give Lincoln or U-High this much joy? They probably need it more than us...
I think you're mad. You commented early on in another thread about the days before the magic began clicking when QND roughed up and beat up the fledgling Rockets. Bragging about kids getting injured. All you've done since 2009 is average a 6-4 record.

I don't insult the kids. I insult your POS town and its inability to attract quality families to your program. You are the antithesis to all of the arguments about football/basketball recruiting in private school high school sports. People WANT to go to Mount Carmel. People WANT to go to St. Rita. People WANT to go to St. Laurence. People WANT to go to SHG. Hell, people WANT to go to ESL. Meanwhile, in 30 years, you've gone from a 2A to a 3A to a long tenure in 4A, back to a 2A program. Families have a choice to send their kids to you and they AREN'T. That's a culture issue. And much of it has to do with the fact Quincy resembles a Sasquatch sized turd on the river. Families are literally choosing to go to your neighboring school with it's embarrassing 12.8% college readiness rate rather than pay anywhere from $2300 to $4100 per year (after assistance) to send their kids to a supposed "better" school. QHS Reading ACT scores average 19.6 while QND averages 21.5. Two points better and barely a point better than the state average?!?! And before you opine, I looked up my Jesuit institution's average... 28. As a product of a Jesuit education, you embarrass the rest of us who find value in educational and athletic achievements as a cornerstone for future success. And to hear your constant "woe is me, we're smaller than everyone else, we're trying" nonsense is painful as it screams beta energy.

And no, Lincoln and U-High don't get this kind of joy. U-High was amazing last night and wasn't trying to injure their opponent as you so bragged about in your "days of glory" 20 years ago. Minus the one alcoholic parent who paid a visit to the Rochester bleachers in Lincoln, the Railers have been light years more reasonable and understand basketball is where they will be strong in the CS8.

So, your braggodocio comments of a time long ago have been heard and you're still on the hook to explain your woeful existence. I hope your squad makes it to the playoffs. A group of us will be on the Maroa Forsyth side laughing as we watch your tearful playoff exit while you bitch about the refs. And I hope the Gods will make it happen for Maroa to destroy your ego on your home turf. Which brings to mind another item.... how is it you were so dominant within the confines of that shithole we call Quincy, but squeaked by in your only trip outside of the county? Normal put up 30. Rochester put up 38. SHG put up 50+. Chatham put up 37.

Go back into your limestone mine along the river and focus on guarding the horse glue.
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Southwest Prairie thread

Where are you seeing this? I tried finding it but I only found on Romeoville's hudl that they lost 31 to 11 https://fan.hudl.com/usa/il/romeovi...football/watch?s=U2NoZWR1bGVFbnRyeTI1NjcxNDI2

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Provi/SF

This is what I am thinking:
There is no "delay of game" penalty in HS rule book for not immediately taking a knee, i cannot 100% confirm but cannot find anything that says it is.
With that said I think when you are taking a knee two things happen:
1. Coach or QB tell ref they are taking a knee.
or
2. The "victory" formation shows that.
This leads the refs to inform the lines, hence why you see the lines basically just put hands on each other. Makes sense to deescalate emotions for player safety. Now if the O then runs a play which they are going full force, and the D isn't an Un sportsmanship penalty can be called and warranted. Again, for player safety. In this situation that is not what happened, in no way was a play trying to be run and no player was at a safety risk. So, either the refs called a penalty that doesn't exist in HS football, called a penalty that is discretionary or who the hell knows at this point lol.
Every team should be going over this in film this
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Bad business lol. Sounds like clock management from what I am reading in this thread. As a team, you can only control what you can control. Blaming officials is a tool to make you feel better about the loss. Unfortunately it doesn’t fix what need to be fixed to help execute better the next game.
I think folks want to understand what the heck happened and what the actual correct call should have been...
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Provi/SF

This is what I am thinking:
There is no "delay of game" penalty in HS rule book for not immediately taking a knee, i cannot 100% confirm but cannot find anything that says it is.
With that said I think when you are taking a knee two things happen:
1. Coach or QB tell ref they are taking a knee.
or
2. The "victory" formation shows that.
This leads the refs to inform the lines, hence why you see the lines basically just put hands on each other. Makes sense to deescalate emotions for player safety. Now if the O then runs a play which they are going full force, and the D isn't an Un sportsmanship penalty can be called and warranted. Again, for player safety. In this situation that is not what happened, in no way was a play trying to be run and no player was at a safety risk. So, either the refs called a penalty that doesn't exist in HS football, called a penalty that is discretionary but didn't call it correctly or who the hell knows at this point lol.

In regard to the final play. I don't think it was a catch, but I can accept not seeing it etc...it happens all the time.
I do expect refs to know the rules and properly enforce them.
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Provi/SF

@LHSTigers94 what do you think about teams blaming the refs for a L 🤔
Bad business lol. Sounds like clock management from what I am reading in this thread. As a team, you can only control what you can control. Blaming officials is a tool to make you feel better about the loss. Unfortunately it doesn’t fix what need to be fixed to help execute better the next game.

Provi/SF

The issue is for safety sake Providence isnt allowed to rush there. SF was going to take a knee. They delayed. Call should have been Dead ball Unsportsmanlike and loss of 15 yards, then 2nd down Delay of game was called and it can be that as well and saves SF 10 yards.

Why does penalty look like 10 yards....because SF QB didnt take a knee he walked back a few yards maybe 5 and then there are 5 more yards for penalty second down.

In high school football if you say you are taking a knee, take a knee. If not that can happen. It looks bad but not necessarily incorrect. I wasnt there but thats who things have transpired. Im not digging through the rulebook though either.
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