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crusader_of_90 · Tuesday at 9:54 PM

After the futbol team won 2A this weekend on the pitch, can the real football players follow suit and win 1A on the gridiron? So strange hearing the names Gomric, Ysursa and Myatt playing that other game and I know some of those boys would be starters.

Not bad for a little ol Catholic school in the 618!

caravan8 · Tuesday at 9:46 PM

MC63 said:
Can't believe I posted that. Yikes.

Would’ve been more embarrassing if you showed up at Normal for the game 🤣

big daddy looch · Tuesday at 9:46 PM

DadCoachSports said:
Cary-Grove by 14
Geneva by 10
ESTL by 28
Kankakee by 10

I got CG by 27
Lake Forest by 1
ESL by 30
Kays by 14

big daddy looch · Tuesday at 9:40 PM

corey90 said:
Thanks Big Daddy. Your detailed analysis makes me think they are in a weak conference and they happen to have enough talent to win. I was thinking of going this Friday but it sounds like the game might not be very close.

Definitely not a weak conference this year. three of the four qualifiers are still alive and the conference champ got knocked out by one of them last week but needless to say Stevenson is going to have their hands full

4Afan · Tuesday at 9:29 PM

jha618 said:
I am convinced you either cant, or dont care to read. Its pointless going back and forth with you whether its the former, or the latter.

So sorry, it's hard to keep up. Only the top 4 or maybe 8, all 32 is fine. Do it like the ncaa tourney, or even the way the take entries and seed tennis tournaments, oh and college baseball was a great comparison too. Tough to keep up with all the convoluted systems you're in favor of.

jha618 · Tuesday at 9:05 PM

4Afan said:
No, it's completely biased based on the fact you only care about the top 4-8 teams.

jha618 said:
I am not even opposed to seeding all 32 using "power rankings" but people seemed to have an issue with their accuracy beyond 12 or so.

I am convinced you either cant, or dont care to read. Its pointless going back and forth with you whether its the former, or the latter.

crusader_of_90 · Tuesday at 8:42 PM

gobears25 said:
7a would include smalls schools byron, wilmington, althoff, dixon, and large schools lwc, ignatius, oswego, sandburg, wws, edwardsville. while there are some epic matchups there i don't know how many people want to see one of those small schools have a playoff run end in round 1 or 2 because they have to play one large schools.

I am good with that.

LakeCtyNewt · Tuesday at 7:57 PM

corey90 said:
Thanks Big Daddy. Your detailed analysis makes me think they are in a weak conference and they happen to have enough talent to win. I was thinking of going this Friday but it sounds like the game might not be very close.

I’d say their conference this year was better than the one East played in. Three teams in the quarters, another that went 8-2 with two losses to quarterfinal teams.

Of late this conference has been down. This was not a down year.

stonedlizard · Tuesday at 7:48 PM

PowerI66 said:
5 pages for something @stonedlizard solved years ago!

Humbled and appreciative of the recognition that this has already been solved

…now if only it could be implemented

4Afan · Tuesday at 7:19 PM

jha618 said:
I couldn't care less about who complains about it, or who loses any specific game. Its about accuracy and fairness regardless of the individual outcomes of the games. I would be making this same argument had this been brought up the night the bracket was released and games had yet to be played. My view on this is completely unbiased.

No, it's completely biased based on the fact you only care about the top 4-8 teams.

I think it's fairly accurate being that the top teams are playing for the title more times than not in most classes regardless what seed they started as. I really don't care who who you feel deserves the easier path to the quarters or semis. You want to get that far, beat the team in front of you.

JCHS78 · Tuesday at 7:01 PM

NNFAN said:
Love Washington and Metamora, great little towns with super nice people. Is Faire Coffee on Bus 24?

It's on the square.

jha618 · Tuesday at 6:59 PM

4Afan said:
An IHSA system that has worked for years that no school complains about enough to submit a proposal for a change, just a small pocket of fans who get upset when their team loses a round before they feel they should have.

I couldn't care less about who complains about it, or who loses any specific game. Its about accuracy and fairness regardless of the individual outcomes of the games. I would be making this same argument had this been brought up the night the bracket was released and games had yet to be played. My view on this is completely unbiased.

4Afan · Tuesday at 6:55 PM

jha618 said:
Its not a question of if they can EVER be a legit #1. It's are they #1 this year. Does it not give you a little bit of pause when no other ranking/rating system has them as the #1 team in 7a, besides the ihsa system?

An IHSA system that has worked for years that no school complains about enough to submit a proposal for a change, just a small pocket of fans who get upset when their team loses a round before they feel they should have.

crusader_of_90 · Tuesday at 6:52 PM

12-St Rita
10-Morgan Park
8-Lyons
6-St Francis
5-DGN
4-Geneva

crusader_of_90 · Tuesday at 6:40 PM

They are known for their stiff, hard-hitting D, but do not sleep on their mouth-watering O.

Team motto is "Come hard or don't come at all!"

jha618 · Tuesday at 6:38 PM

Cross Bones said:
Is it incomprehensible that Whitney Young could ever be the legit #1? Is Morgan Park a legit #1? Was Mohamet Seymour a legit #3

Its not a question of if they can EVER be a legit #1. It's are they #1 this year. Does it not give you a little bit of pause when no other ranking/rating system has them as the #1 team in 7a, besides the ihsa system?

pjjp · Tuesday at 6:36 PM

Cross Bones said:
Is it incomprehensible that Whitney Young could ever be the legit #1? Is Morgan Park a legit #1? Was Mohamet Seymour a legit #3?

Theoretically, no. Close, but no. No.

Silver Rain · Tuesday at 6:24 PM

LHSTigers94 said:
LA beat MC last year and both won state. MC and LA both have more losses this year compared to the last couple of years. They also played a very tough schedule this year.

Both MC and LA are much better teams than they were at the start of the season. Hell, MC is not the same team that lost to Loyola a few weeks ago. Everything is magically coming toether for the Caravan.

NNFAN · Tuesday at 6:19 PM

Also... they score a lot.

prince_of_pilfer · Tuesday at 6:17 PM

12-St Rita
10-St Francis
8-Lyons
6-Morgan Park
5-DGN
4-Lake Forest

NNFAN · Tuesday at 6:11 PM

JCHS78 said:
The important question is whether I stop in Washington, IL to eat breakfast at Faire Coffee or eat a pork tenderloin and onion rings at Schooners in Peoria. If I eat at Schooners I'll need at least three other people to help with the tenderloin and rings.

Love Washington and Metamora, great little towns with super nice people. Is Faire Coffee on Bus 24?

k1867 · Tuesday at 6:10 PM

Cross Bones said:
Is it incomprehensible that Whitney Young could ever be the legit #1? Is Morgan Park a legit #1? Was Mohamet Seymour a legit #3?

The thing everybody is missing is that Massey is legitimately far more accurate than any other possible arbiter of seeding. Like it or not these algorithms, while they have their flaws, will always be the most accurate. And they will only improve with time. So, yeah the Massey or calpreps (Massey is superior) would be the best way of seeding 1-32.

Cross Bones · Tuesday at 6:03 PM

pjjp said:
I’m surprised there is so much support for the current seeding process. Yes it’s objective. Yes it’s transparent. And yes it had Whitney Young as the #1 seed in 7A. Any system that has a #1 seed like that would seem ripe for tweaking.

Is it incomprehensible that Whitney Young could ever be the legit #1? Is Morgan Park a legit #1? Was Mohamet Seymour a legit #3?

PowerI66 · Tuesday at 5:36 PM

5 pages for something @stonedlizard solved years ago!

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Higher seeds should get the home game.

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Higher seeds should get the home game.

JCA @ Peoria

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Breaking from Johnston City...

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Higher seeds should get the home game.

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Higher seeds should get the home game.

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