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corey90 said:
Caleb doing Caleb things. Fun to watch. It’s preseason but nice to see him get some much needed reps. Rome looks good as well. Defense definitely looks good. Hopefully the Bears are showing good things to come this season. 👍
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I hope so too, but let's not read too much into thrashing a bunch of deep depth chart Bengals, a number of whom will be on the outs looking in when the season starts.

Yes, getting the reps was good, and I'm glad Flus kept Caleb and company in for longer than planned.
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4Afan said:
TB also won a playoff game and the NFC South is a terrible division.

This started with talking about where the NFC North ranks among the others in the league so how the North fares against those teams matters. The AFC North teams had a total of 43 wins, 9 more than the NFC North teams.

The NFC North is not a great division, it's not a terrible division either, it's average.
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But that is like, your opinion man.
We are talking about this coming year...things change and this is the NFL.
When talking about last it's not apples to apples to compare total div records when they don't play the same schedule. With that said I agree LAST year the AFC North top to bottom was better.
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SiuCubFan8 said:
I never said the Packers made a deep run. I will say they won a playoff game which is more than two of those 2 AFC North teams can say.
On GB losing a regular season game to Pit....so?
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TB also won a playoff game and the NFC South is a terrible division.

This started with talking about where the NFC North ranks among the others in the league so how the North fares against those teams matters. The AFC North teams had a total of 43 wins, 9 more than the NFC North teams.

The NFC North is not a great division, it's not a terrible division either, it's average.
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Wartburg College football roster

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Wartburg is a tremendous program and a blue print of what a well run Division 3 program should look like. The below numbers are EXTREMELY healthy.

Bad D3 programs bring in 70 freshman and by the time they are seniors only a a handful remain. To keep half is amazing and the numbers appear to be improving as well.


Freshman 59

Sophomore 56

Junior 32

Senior 28

5th Year 15


* They are probably having a varsity practice and a freshman only practice.
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4Afan said:
Would you say the Bills and Bucs made deep playoff runs just because they won a WC game?

The Packers also lost to one of those AFC North teams, Steelers, just saying.
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So by that logic you’re saying Pittsburgh is better than Green Bay.

I think the Green Bay roster is better than Pittsburgh. I think the bears roster is better than Tampa and I think Detroit’s roster is better than all the teams you mentioned.
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4Afan said:
The Packers won a wild card game, but I would hardly call that "deep into the playoffs"

The AFC North is meh? Lol. Every team was above .500 last year and 3 teams made the playoffs.

Using your same "meh" criteria the NFC North last year was the Lions and then meh.

Last year the North played the AFC West and NFC South and the Packers who went "deep into the playoffs" went an average 4-4 against those teams.
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2 of those AFC North teams didn't win a WC game (and they were not competitive)...just saying.
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LakeCtyNewt said:
Based on deep dive talent and questions in the off seasonal to bottom this is the deepest division in the league. I will put a caveat on this only to say that Minnesota is the outlier.

But if you’re basing this on past history - two teams in that division went deep into the playoffs with one just missing the Super Bowl.

Look around the NFC

East - Philly and Dallas and meh
South - anyone’s guess - saints Bucs or Atlanta
West - Niners or Rams

AFC
East - Dolphins or Jets Bills could be icky
North - Ravens then meh
South - Texans then meh
West - Chiefs then meh
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The Packers won a wild card game, but I would hardly call that "deep into the playoffs"

The AFC North is meh? Lol. Every team was above .500 last year and 3 teams made the playoffs.

Using your same "meh" criteria the NFC North last year was the Lions and then meh.

Last year the North played the AFC West and NFC South and the Packers who went "deep into the playoffs" went an average 4-4 against those teams.
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2024 Team Preview: Wheaton Warrenville South

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Wheaton Warrenville South Tigers

Head Coach: Sean Norris

2024 Regular Season schedule (if known)

vs Glenbard South
vs Lyons Township
vs Geneva
@ Glenbard North
@ St Charles North
@ Wheaton North
vs Lake Park
@ Batavia
vs St Charles East

Returning Offensive Starters for 2024

QB Luca Carbonaro 6-foot-2, 180 pounds 2026
WR Amari Williams 6-foot-3, 180 pounds 2025
RB Owen Yorke 5-foot-10, 180 pounds 2026
TE Brady Goken 6-foot-4, 230 pounds 2025
OL Sean Semp 6-foot-0, 225 pounds 2026
OL Jake Winters 6-foot-4, 245 pounds 2025
OL Rory Masse 6-foot-0, 233 pounds 2025


Returning Defensive Starters for 2024:

LB Axel Boecker 5-foot-11, 220 pounds 2026
LB Chris Walton 6-foot-0, 190 pounds 2025
S Zach Rogers 6-foot-1, 185 pounds 2026

Newcomers to Watch:

OLB/FB Amare Williams 6-foot-2, 190 pounds 2026
TE/DE Kirby Christensen 6-foot-2, 210 pounds 2026
DT Cesar Calderon 6-foot-2, 275 pounds 2025


2024 Team 7on7 or Team Summer Camp?

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Wheaton South senior WR Amari Williams is a speedy and athletic big receiver who has great hands, ball skills and impressive body control. Williams, who is already committed to NIU this summer will continue to draw recruiting looks and interest this fall.

Looking fror a sleeper name to watch for Wheaton South? Wheaton South junior QB Luca Carbonaro will be a rare three year varsity starter who has developed into one of the better quarterbacks to watch in the West suburbs this coming season.

EDGY's Preseason Thoughts on the 2024 Wheaton South Tigers

Wheaton South and head coach Sean Norris is looking to build upon it's 5-5 record in 2023. The Tigers made the Class 7A state playoff field and lost to Hersey in opening round action. Sean Norris has posted a 13-18 record in 3 seasons at Wheaton South and has gotten the Tigers into the state playoffs twice in three seasons

The biggest question facing Wheaton South this summer?


Can the Tigers take the next step and win the Dukane conference crown and then make a deeper push into the Class 7A state playoffs? The Tigers played a ton of underclassmen in 2023 and some of the key names will have multiple years of varsity reps. The Tigers offense in particular looked strong this summer and if the defense can replace 8 graduated starters this summer they can make some noise this season.

Preseason Ranking? 2024 Preseason EDGYTIM Chicagoland Top 30 poll and 2024 Preseason Class 7A Top 10 consideration
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LakeCtyNewt
4Afan said:
Exactly, so how can you say the North is so great when they weren't the greatest last year? Without deep diving I would rank the NFC North 4th in the league behind the AFC and NFC West and the AFC North.
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Based on deep dive talent and questions in the off seasonal to bottom this is the deepest division in the league. I will put a caveat on this only to say that Minnesota is the outlier.

But if you’re basing this on past history - two teams in that division went deep into the playoffs with one just missing the Super Bowl.

Look around the NFC

East - Philly and Dallas and meh
South - anyone’s guess - saints Bucs or Atlanta
West - Niners or Rams

AFC
East - Dolphins or Jets Bills could be icky
North - Ravens then meh
South - Texans then meh
West - Chiefs then meh
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LakeCtyNewt said:
Can’t you make this argument about any division?

AFC North
ravens - Can Lamar win the big game. Will Henry show signs of wear

Steelers - Can anyone play QB? Can their O Line protect anyone?

Bengals - Who will run the ball? Can the O Line keep Burrow upright? Can their secondary cover anyone?

Browns - Great defense but?

You can make this argument about every team in the league except for KC.
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Exactly, so how can you say the North is so great when they weren't the greatest last year? Without deep diving I would rank the NFC North 4th in the league behind the AFC and NFC West and the AFC North.
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LakeCtyNewt said:
Can’t you make this argument about any division?

AFC North
ravens - Can Lamar win the big game. Will Henry show signs of wear

Steelers - Can anyone play QB? Can their O Line protect anyone?

Bengals - Who will run the ball? Can the O Line keep Burrow upright? Can their secondary cover anyone?

Browns - Great defense but?

You can make this argument about every team in the league except for KC.
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Add in the unkown.....injuries.
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4Afan said:
It's always possible, but I think there are way too many questions about all the teams in the North to be so confident about how good they are.

Will the Lions have any sort of regression from last years success? Will the Packers continue to improve or will they level off? Will the Bears young talent and new acquisitions mesh together right out of the gate? Will the Vikings be really bad or just average?
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Can’t you make this argument about any division?

AFC North
ravens - Can Lamar win the big game. Will Henry show signs of wear

Steelers - Can anyone play QB? Can their O Line protect anyone?

Bengals - Who will run the ball? Can the O Line keep Burrow upright? Can their secondary cover anyone?

Browns - Great defense but?

You can make this argument about every team in the league except for KC.
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