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PowerI66 said:
I think the players are on board with the boos... However, they are quitting too
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If they lose (or more like "when"), I say let's stay at 4 wins and get another high pick!

Let's do this!

They are definitely not motivated. That's why both eberfus and waldon should be packing their bags. Then the interim coach and staff cut all weak-ass players who suck.
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DGN 13 Fenwick 10 final

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Btimpone22 said:
Taunting

Here is the Fenwick DB brandishing a gun on the field.
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brucealmighy said:
His teammates’ reactions seem to indicate he did something dumb and the penalty was justified
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I had to watch that clip 40-50 times before the whole thing kinda made sense.

In the clip we can only see #22 (#26 not #22) doing the gun thing and Ref probably could not see it, and was very fast on the flag.

The only way it made sense was if #2 was also doing the gun thing (away from our camera view), which gives the Ref a perfect view.

Does that sound right? That's the best my old eyes can come up with.
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Wittymoniker1 said:
Not sure why Sweat didn't make it to the line of scrimmage after giving zero effort on the pass rush. He was rested. LOL.

Which player will blame the fans because of the booing?

Unless a miracle happens, eberflus and waldron should be packing their bags.

Why can't this overrated defense ever stop anyone from scoring with seconds remaining b4 halftime?

This is post-Brady and Belichek NE. And the Bears look horrendous 😬.
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I think the players are on board with the boos... However, they are quitting too
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Higher seeds should get the home game.

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jha618 said:
Im not getting hung up on it all, but your 2 points are contradicting. If the best team wins, what difference does it make? And it goes beyond just the best team will win. Marist had a season deserving of a better draw than LA in the 2nd rd. The same goes for many others.

Why fixate on the championship game? Why can't the goal be to have the 4 best teams meet in the semis? And the best 8 teams meet in the qrts. That's literally what the point of seeding is.
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So you want subjective seeding done by computers but not 1-32?

Marist had a season deserving of a better draw? What does that even mean? So should they have been given a bye?

Isn't being the champion the end goal? I don't care who makes the quarters or semi's, it's about the 2 best teama playing on Thanksgiving weekend. If they're one of the best 4 teams they'll make the semi's. If they get a less than favorable draw and lose then they obviously weren't one of the 4 best teams in that class.
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Not sure why Sweat didn't make it to the line of scrimmage after giving zero effort on the pass rush. He was rested. LOL.

Which player will blame the fans because of the booing?

Unless a miracle happens, eberflus and waldron should be packing their bags.

Why can't this overrated defense ever stop anyone from scoring with seconds remaining b4 halftime?

This is post-Brady and Belichek NE. And the Bears look horrendous 😬.
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WB6 Week 11 Playoff sped cap

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Moline 14 @ Quincy 44: When Bradyn Little has an 80% completion rate and over 300 yards passing with no interceptions…your defense is going to have a long night and that is what happened to Moline. Moline would score first with a short yard td run. Quincy would answer back with a td of it’s own. Moline would drive again and be poised to score before the drive stalls and they would miss a field goal. After that, it was all Quincy. Moline ends the season 8-3. Quincy will travel to play St. Rita.

Geneseo 13 @ Depaul Prep 38: DePaul is big and athletic, and it was all display as DePaul slowly wore down the visiting Leafs for a convincing win. Geneseo would also hurt themselves with multiple turn over and a slew of missed tackles that led to big plays for DePaul. Geneseo finishes the season 6-5, but was a young team with a new head coach and playbook so I think Geneseo is bounce back next season.
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Potentially least competitive quarterfinal games

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mc140 - I hope you are correct but respectfully disagree with Montini vs. Princeton. Princeton is looking for revenge after last year's quarterfinal loss to Montini. Princeton lead 3-0 at halftime before Montini capitalized on 2 turnovers to win 27-9.

Princeton is a tough program, look for it to be a close game. My prediction, Montini pulls away in 4th quarter to win 28-14.
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4Afan said:
Because 1-32 gives you a better chance of having the 2 best teams meeting in the finals. My example of seeding 3A 1-32 would have meant Byron and Montini would have met in the final versus the 2nd round and that would have been with Montini seeded at #14.

You keep getting hung up on the number next to the team, but if they're the better team they'll win. If MC wins 7A will it matter they were seeded 17 instead of 1?
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Im not getting hung up on it all, but your 2 points are contradicting. If the best team wins, what difference does it make? And it goes beyond just the best team will win. Marist had a season deserving of a better draw than LA in the 2nd rd. The same goes for many others.

Why fixate on the championship game? Why can't the goal be to have the 4 best teams meet in the semis? And the best 8 teams meet in the qrts. That's literally what the point of seeding is.
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gobucsgo said:
Over the last 4 years, Byron has had to travel to IC catholic. 2 years in a row. And then the next 2 years, Montini.

They were the lower seed once. I just think there should be a better way. Just like everyone said that today shouldn’t happen today. And that it should have been a finals or semis. Is there a better way to seed these teams? We all know Montini isn’t a 9th seed.
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Nonsense. If you can't win 2 games on the road in the playoffs then you don't deserve to play on the state title game.
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jha618 said:
I don't understand this comment. The seeds aren't meant to be predictive. It's a system to reward teams on the strength on what they accomplished during the season. Look st the ncaa tournament. You don't see them punting on the idea of seeding teams because they can't predict who will win the championship. They also dont seed 20 win socon team ahead of a 20 win team from the b10 because they understand the schedules weren't the same.
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Then I don't know what you mean by accurate. The NCAA tournament is seeded by a committee that gets it wrong all the time and often times based on biases, that's how we get Cinderellas. But that's apples and oranges anyways. A closer analogy would be the IHSA basketball seedings, but there's more games to judge in basketball and coaches (who do the seeding) have more opportunity to see the teams they're seeding.

Look how the NFL does seeding. No SOS or biases involved at all. Why don't they use computers and people?
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Cross Bones said:
We don't have any way at all to determine what is accurate. The closest we can do is at the end of the playoffs knowing who was #1 (which is still subject to matchups) in each bracket.

Would people have seeded Morgan Park over Metamora?
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I don't understand this comment. The seeds aren't meant to be predictive. It's a system to reward teams on the strength on what they accomplished during the season. Look st the ncaa tournament. You don't see them punting on the idea of seeding teams because they can't predict who will win the championship. They also dont seed 20 win socon team ahead of a 20 win team from the b10 because they understand the schedules weren't the same.
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4Afan said:
This is my biggest complaint with the current system. They claim it's due to travel distances within the lower classes, but in reality the IHSA has no interest in the best teams making the finals in those classes, they want a northern and southern representative in the title game.
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They say it’s for travel reasons…but Illini West still had to travel over 4 hours for a first round 2A game.
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jha618 said:
My issue is using objective and transparent to be synonymous with accurate. I think accuracy is just as important when seeding for the purpose of the state playoffs as objectivity and transparency.

Why would you be so in favor of seeding 1-32 for the sake of more accurate matchups but also not care about the matchups created by having LA and MC seeded 12th and 17th in their respective classes?
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We don't have any way at all to determine what is accurate. The closest we can do is at the end of the playoffs knowing who was #1 (which is still subject to matchups) in each bracket.

Would people have seeded Morgan Park over Metamora?
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jha618 said:
My issue is using objective and transparent to be synonymous with accurate. I think accuracy is just as important when seeding for the purpose of the state playoffs as objectivity and transparency.

Why would you be so in favor of seeding 1-32 for the sake of more accurate matchups but also not care about the matchups created by having LA and MC seeded 12th and 17th in their respective classes?
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Because 1-32 gives you a better chance of having the 2 best teams meeting in the finals. My example of seeding 3A 1-32 would have meant Byron and Montini would have met in the final versus the 2nd round and that would have been with Montini seeded at #14.

You keep getting hung up on the number next to the team, but if they're the better team they'll win. If MC wins 7A will it matter they were seeded 17 instead of 1?
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St Francis @ Sycamore

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DMurph11 said:
SF threw all over Loyola who had an Iowa commit at safety along with a Washington commit at the opposite safety position. It’s going to be a great game with some points scored by both teams.

Weather will be a factor, if it’s good passing weather that favors SF heavily IMO.
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Macpherson rarely plays defense. He’s committed as a safety, but plays RB currently.
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4Afan said:
They're objective and transparent. What went into the AP ranking that has Loyola at #6 in 8A? No one knows and I have an issue with that.

Again, they both won and are still alive so who cares what their playoff seed is? If they're both playing the weekend after Thanksgiving then they're one of the best 2 teams in their class regardless of the number next to their name.
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My issue is using objective and transparent to be synonymous with accurate. I think accuracy is just as important when seeding for the purpose of the state playoffs as objectivity and transparency.

Why would you be so in favor of seeding 1-32 for the sake of more accurate matchups but also not care about the matchups created by having LA and MC seeded 12th and 17th in their respective classes?
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