They have aspirations to go deep...in the playoffs.

corey90 said:

Your insinuating the York vs Warren won’t have any defense with scoring that high for two teams that run the ball.

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Not the same Warren defense you're used to. They gave up over 30 points in 3 of their 4 loses.

Would bet my severed left foot that MC and JCA are tied at the top, which I have no problem with.

johnndoe said:

Park Ridge origins of 2 coaches

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And let's not forget Charlie Bliss, former QB coach at MS, retired CFD, now at Loyola.

DadCoachSports said:

LWE's closest game is 21 pts. They have scored 40 points in 8 of 10 games.

They will beat Stevenson by at least 28.

I predict they win state by over 21 pts.

Coach Z will tell everyone at the end of the season this is the best team he has coached.

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I am not sure he will say that. The 2005 team was pretty special offensively and defensively. Of course I am a bit partial to that team my son was a part of. 😊

big daddy looch said:

Gimme Beast in a drubbing 49-7
Got Loyola on a Buzzer FG 31-28
LT 24-17
Warren in a 1 hour 15 minute game 42-35

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Your insinuating the York vs Warren won’t have any defense with scoring that high for two teams that run the ball.

LWE 42-14 too much talent vs Stevenson, ‘lock of the week’ with no chance to upset
MS 31-28 QB shootout that MS wins late, as LA coaches pick wrong game strategy
Lyons 28-14 in a defensive battle, and maybe worst if Lyons OFF gets rolling
York 31-21 better team wins, but Warren RB will keep it close.

Fishwater41 said:

8A QTRS who you got and why

Game 25 — #9 Lincolnshire (Stevenson) (10-1) at #1 Frankfort (Lincoln-Way East) (11-0), Fri., Nov. 15, 7:00 pm.
Game 26 — #20 Park Ridge (Maine South) (8-3) at #12 Wilmette (Loyola Academy) (9-2), Sat., Nov. 16, 1:30 pm
Game 27 — #7 Naperville (Central) (10-1) at #2 LaGrange (Lyons) (11-0), Fri., Nov. 15, 7:00 pm
Game 28 — #27 Gurnee (Warren) (7-4) at #14 Elmhurst (York) (9-2), Fri., Nov. 15, 7:30 pm

LWE running clock. 49-0
Maine South in 20-17
LTHS 31-28
Warren 49-48

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Gimme Beast in a drubbing 49-7
Got Loyola on a Buzzer FG 31-28
LT 24-17
York in a 1 hour 15 minute game 38-14

York will be favored - better record & home team. Warren has been on the road most of the year. So, it should be an interesting game. No rain in forecast but temp will be in the upper/mid 40's. I see a pretty low scoring game. I like this game because they are both mid/lower seeded (14 vs. 27) both will be underdogs the rest of the way. Warren is playing with house money at this point. Hopefully, Six Flags will stay open another week in November. The FLAG !

#14 - Montini

jha618 said:

The CFP committee only SEEDS 12 teams for a spot to play in the playoffs..

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Per the CFP website.

"The committee will rank 25 teams. The five highest-ranked conference champions and the next seven highest-ranked teams will be in the playoff."

Yes, they only SEED 12 teams only because there are only 12 teams in the playoffs, but they use the same criteria to RANK all 25 teams, not a separate set of data points for the top 12 and another set of data points for the remaining 13 teams.

Here is the source. Please read and let me know where the committee uses a different criteria when SEEDING 1-12 versus RANKING the top 25. The only difference is putting the conference champs ahead of the rest, but the criteria doesn't change.

jha618 said:

Sure. But isnt that essentially what happens now to a degree when the conf champ goes 9-0 in an inferior conf and gets a higher seed because they have a better record than a 2nd place team from a much tougher conf? THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TRYING TO PREVENT! Its like you understand my point but you are doing everything you can not to admit it.

I have also never advocated for IHSA conf champs to receive priority seeding.

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Yes, it is essentially what happens now, so why are you using a tournament that does something similar in terms of seeding as an example?!

jha618 said:

There is 100% a difference in how they RANK the top 12 and how they SEED the top 12. Both rankings and seeding play a role in the playoff bracket.

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Correct, there is a difference when ranking vs. seeding the top 12, but the only difference is that the top 4 RANKED conference champs get the top 4 SEEDS and the 5th RANKED conference champ gets into the playoffs regardless of their rank. The criteria used to determine their RANK does not change to determine their SEED. It's only based on whether they win their conference.

Doing what you imply would be like using KenPom as the exclusive source to select the NCAA tournament teams and then the committee would exclusively determine the teams seeding once in the tourney and that's not what happens. The committee uses the same criteria when determining if the 4th ranked A10 team should get into the tournament over the 4th ranked SoCon team as they do to determine whether that team is worthy of a 10 seed or a 12 seed.

LWE's closest game is 21 pts. They have scored 40 points in 8 of 10 games.

They will beat Stevenson by at least 28.

I predict they win state by over 21 pts.

Coach Z will tell everyone at the end of the season this is the best team he has coached.

4Afan said:

It's like he's going out of his way to prove he's not a running QB.

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And he can run. I don't get it.

Wassup13 said:

At minimum Caleb needs to run forward with the ball and get out of bounds or slide for whatever yardage he can get. Don't run east and west forever behind the line of scrimmage.

If this is not an option then throw the ball away

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It's like he's going out of his way to prove he's not a running QB.

I guess Massey is not giving the Loyola game much weight huh?

And that was a win on the road at Loyola.

lweastdad said:

Question, is Williams holding on to the ball a function of the play calling and the receivers not getting open? Add the worst o-line in the league and its no wonder that he is failing.

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At minimum Caleb needs to run forward with the ball and get out of bounds or slide for whatever yardage he can get. Don't run east and west forever behind the line of scrimmage.

If this is not an option then throw the ball away

Wassup13 said:

Massey has Sycamore as a 6 point favorite.

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It’s gonna be a great game. SF is playing some good ball at the right time.

Cross Bones said:

@jhi get it, i do. You think the assumed best team should have the easiest path to the championship. And I agree we generally have a good idea of who the best teams are. My issue is when you give those alleged best teams the easiest path even when their record has some blemishes on it it then becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, not making it because they're better, instead making it because they had an easy path. One their regular season didn't deserve.

Furthermore if the computer seedings don't go chalk then they were wrong in the first place. The chances of them going chalk are next to none. I do prefer the seedings not being based on the alleged best team, but rather the best records and then best playoff points. Perhaps we could tweak the playoff points to only include the teams you beat (this would change all the non 9-0 seedings).

The luck of the draw is one of the good things about the playoffs and my squad never gets the luck of the draw whether 9-0 or 5-4 yeah it sucks going home earlier than expected but eventually you gotta beat the good teams if you're good.

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When seeding, its generally not a reflection of who is the presumed best team. Or who will win a given matchup. Its more about who put together the best resume (Sos, quality wins, fewest bad losses, etc) up until the point of seeding. Yes, upsets happen and we see the "bracket busters" all the time in the NCAAT, but I don't think we should assume the committees got it wrong in that instance. Ie, i dont think the committee got it wrong just because FDU beat Purdue, or Loyola upsets Illinois.

I think with most large format tournaments, and what he NCAAT makes a concerted effort to address is that fact that you may have two teams with identical records, but their respective seeding in the NCAAT accounts for the fact that 25 wins in the B10 is alot different than 25 wins in the SoCon.