Coach Hennessey of Notre Dame to retire
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Congrats to Danny. Great leader of young men. ND should be very happy with this move!
Wish the fire emoji reaction was an option.Never said anything wrong with the trades. I don't think our society honors these individuals as much as we should. My dad was a tradesman. I asked our local high school to do a signing day for the trade unions (I live in a rural area that has lots of farmers and tradesmen) instead of just the athletes signing day. But, you are going to tell an 8th grader that they have to go to a vocational school because they did not get accepted by the high schools they wanted to go to?
Also, what happens when your local public school is at max capacity and you have not been accepted anywhere you applied? If they must hold spots for all possible local students, how would they plan for staffing, schedules, budgets, etc.? This would need to be known well in advance. Schools could face large swings in population #s that would be a staffing nightmare. There is already a teacher shortage, how much worse do we want it to get?
Never said anything wrong with the trades. I don't think our society honors these individuals as much as we should. My dad was a tradesman. I asked our local high school to do a signing day for the trade unions (I live in a rural area that has lots of farmers and tradesmen) instead of just the athletes signing day. But, you are going to tell an 8th grader that they have to go to a vocational school because they did not get accepted by the high schools they wanted to go to?I did not say no high school! Full stop. Do you understand that they have these things called Vocational high schools perhaps the new term career and technology schools where you learn the trades like being an electrician, a draftsman, a plumber, auto mechnic, etc…. There is nothing wrong with working in the trades, in fact most of the trades provide a better salary standard of living and benefits than many college degree outcomes. And finally, stop living on hyperbole with coal mines and elementary school!
I like the committee idea. That's what I proposed. But you bring up a good point, the Prep Bowl is already a thing, so maybe nothing has to be done... except cancel that game against the CPL champ. That would be a disaster.Haven't ever thought about it too much, but on the spot...
Top 6-10 as voted on by a committee (need to decide exact format) in a double knock out 5 week tourney.
Remaining schools (whatever number) to Prep Bowl to compete against public champ.
Thats assuming my czar abilities allow me to bring all non CCL private schools into the Prep Bowl exemption.
Edit I guess your few non CPS non-boundaried publics like University High also go to the public bracket of prep bowl in this scenario.
Haven't ever thought about it too much, but on the spot...How would you do it if you were the Czar of the Private Playoffs?
How would you do it if you were the Czar of the Private Playoffs?If the separation proposal is being done for just football that's way easier said than done. Lots of other sports to consider.
What does two classes even look like for football? It basically has to be 16 team format. They throwing in a bye or is championship week the week before Thanksgiving now?
If the separation proposal is being done for just football that's way easier said than done. Lots of other sports to consider.If they separate those schools should leave IHSA
We did see something like this at Evanston. Also at West Chicago. Not rural, but not good.I know it would never happen, but I’d love to see a coach like Racki take over a program like Momence or Dwight and see how he did after 6-7 years. Or better yet, a program like Plainfield Central.
I've posted several times talking about why the latter statistic is really flawed at face value.The data that's been shared throughout the state paints a pretty clear picture. 49 Private schools with 11 man football. 471 public. Privates make up 10% of the playoff field (again since 2001) but have one 39% of the championships and have won 71% of the playoff matchups (since 2001). I understand this forum is mostly private school guys, however to not see the problem is obtuse. And it isn't just in football the inequity runs through other sports (Wrestling, Girls Volleyball, Girls basketball, Girls Soccer) Say what you want, but the way to run athletics is just done completely different. Multipliers aren't working and private school coaches know this. All it does, is just rearranged the problem, but doesn't fix it. It looks like 17 states have separated post season between public and privates. Many of them for many years. Seems to work.
After seeing Montini in person, I was extremely impressed, especially with their offense. They had big, physical line play and plus athletes all over the field. The QB that day was particularly accurate also. I’d still take them h2h over Althoff, but I think it would be a fun game to watch for sure. As for pound for pound, I got Althoff with 1A status. Whether people like it or not, they were a 1A team.For what it’s worth Massey has Montini over Althoff 38-20 although i think it’d be more like 28-21…and I don’t think either montini or althoff get whipped in 5A…montini beat Naz last year with half the talent they have this year.
And for every Rochester, there is a Pontiac, Pittsfield, Stillman Valley, and any number of once-successful public school teams who could not sustain their success even not having to deal with all of the realities you mentioned.
You are CHOOSING to pay tuition, you are CHOOSING to comply with dress codes, which by the way all schools have, just not required uniforms. You are CHOOSING to comply with behavior standards and consequences, which all public schools have rules and consequences. You are also CHOOSING to take those religious studies classes by attending the school. These realities are in no way a substantial disadvantage for private schools.
Not turning a blind eye at all, I am not from the area but could assume they closed due to lack of donors and students. I hope you aern't turning a blind eye to the many public school programs that had to forfeit seasons. They have all the advantages (no tuition, no religious classes, no discipline) that privates don't have, and they still can't field competitive teams or teams at all.
I live in the area of St. T., and the gripe with them was their recruiting practices and talking to kids after their freshman year at public schools in the area. There are other public schools in the same area that have some questionable practices as well, and I don't agree with those either. Gone too are Quigley South,Luther South & Luther North,Weber,Holy Cross/Guerin & SFDS now what 10 years without football![]()
Ha! Must’ve been at Fletcher’s!!! We had drinks last Tuesday before the state finals.The locals will know, I had drinks with Joe Wiley tonight - and ABSOLUTE LEGEND in the 618. Huge fan of the Althoff trio going D1. He says Mr. Hill is head and shoulders above Hickey.
(Heard Jack/Joe Buck, Musial, Ozzie, Willie, Lou stories tonight ... if I did not have to drive, I'd still be there soaking up the memories!!!!)