Not a single excuse offered - no mentions of QB2 at the helm, which is part of the game.
And no mention of Carmel losing their biggest weapon for more than half the game to injury - also part of the game.
Yea ESL lost its RB (all year) and QB most of the year. It's part of the game.
And since these stories were written (quite well I might add) by reporters from the East St. Louis area, they and their readers don't care what injuries took place for Mt. Carmel. The story was not about the Caravan.
How many varsity games have you worked? I understand/realize that you're relatively new to the job, but it's quite easy to make those comments when you've never been in that situation.
Fenwick blew the semi-final last year. Officals make mistakes, but as a coaching staff, you would have to rip me off the field to make sure that call was fixed to the right call. Coaches did not fight hard enough to have them realize the mistake. Dont blame losses on officials, they are part of the game. Look at all the plays during a game that YOU could have done differently. Not one call makes that big of a difference. Coaches and fans get mad cause they think that ONE call was at a time a team was moing or scoring the ball.
It might have, but the HC should have stood on the field until he got a full explanation before agreeing to keep playing. I would have been tossed from the game and the officials would have had to call security to drag me off the field. I also believe the IHSA did not do their job. They should have a rules person at semi and finals to make sure this stuff does not happen.
Exactly. Guaranteed every member of every officiating crew, especially in the playoffs are trying to give their best performance every time out. I can also guarantee that no official, or crew for that matter, want to be part of the storyline after the game is over.
Unfortunately, none of us are privy to the discussions the five of them had on the field at that moment. For all we know, maybe they had discussed that play on the field. Maybe one person had the ruling wrong and talked the other four into it. Maybe one person had the ruling right and couldn't talk the other four into it. Maybe a play that happened in week 2 of the college season didn't dawn on them in Week 13 of the HS season.
Did you not read the paragraph above what you put in bold? I mentioned the possibility that talked about that exact play on the field.
Not true at all. If a coach has scouted something on his opponent and asks me or a member of my crew our thoughts on it, we are going to give him the philosophy that my crew has adopted. That should alert that coach to what officiating style they'll see.
I think you are very much misunderstanding what I am saying. So allow me to clarify as best I can:
I'm sorry your kid didn't go to the state championship. That doesn't mean they don't take refereeing seriously. I'm not going to waste more bandwith on this with you.
I know you are a ref and stick up for fellow zebras....but let's review
1- They blew the call- no question
2- You don't know what was talked about. But you don't see an issue if they talked about the OK St play? This is where I'm confused. Wasn't it discussed nationally and locally for weeks after the fact? If these guys took their jobs seriously, they never were part of a discussion or read anything on this? These men had to hear about it...
3- 5 people, No one had a rule book to look up what they were misinterpreting? OK, that would also fall on the Fenwick coaches...
Mistake and human error, sure. BUT, They did not have a Championship game taken from them, Fenwick kids did. They had a paycheck opportunity taken from them. They will get one again, I'm sure, the Fenwick kids...not so much.
I did say it was a mistake, bad one, and only stated they should not be doing a playoff game this year. And for the record... It did not effect my team or a team I cheer for.
Them getting this call wrong after being national news just a few weeks earlier...and you don't see a "shred" of evidence of them not taking their job seriously and deserve another playoff game...shame on you. Not knowing the rules of the game you are officiating, might be more than a "shred" after being a national newsworthy story about your profession, a local coach involved, and two top NCAA confrences releasing statements about said blown call....
But hey, some officials take their job more serious than others. It's just too bad many of them aren't doing the playoff games because they are not "connected".
