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It was 20%. Today's announcement should make people furious. First, he just made it harder for seniors to get vaccinated. Everyone 16 and up eligible April 12. So the most vulnerable population could have more difficulty. Then when it comes to watching HS sports...the opening up is tied to vaccinations now. The ability to watch your son or daughter at an event could be dependent upon other stranger's medical decisions for vaccinations. This is ABSURD. Almost like a backhanded way of mandating the vaccine, so that we need to get to a metric to get full normalcy back. Unbelievable!The restore Illinois document says 25% capacity for outdoor spectator events. Is this new today.? Thought last week it was 20%.
And how do you know hIt was 20%. Today's announcement should make people furious. First, he just made it harder for seniors to get vaccinated. Everyone 16 and up eligible April 12. So the most vulnerable population could have more difficulty. Then when it comes to watching HS sports...the opening up is tied to vaccinations now. The ability to watch your son or daughter at an event could be dependent upon other stranger's medical decisions for vaccinations. This is ABSURD. Almost like a backhanded way of mandating the vaccine, so that we need to get to a metric to get full normalcy back. Unbelievable!
i know! We have to wait until 70% of people 65 and older get a single dose before outdoor capacity can increase. WowIt was 20%. Today's announcement should make people furious. First, he just made it harder for seniors to get vaccinated. Everyone 16 and up eligible April 12. So the most vulnerable population could have more difficulty. Then when it comes to watching HS sports...the opening up is tied to vaccinations now. The ability to watch your son or daughter at an event could be dependent upon other stranger's medical decisions for vaccinations. This is ABSURD. Almost like a backhanded way of mandating the vaccine, so that we need to get to a metric to get full normalcy back. Unbelievable!
Exactly, what I thought. Talk about moving the goal posts.a backhanded way of mandating the vaccine
That's comical. Will they walk around with a T-shirt saying "fully vaccinated, don't mess with me" to show they don't count?Did everyone also notice that all residents who are fully vaccinated will not count against current capacity level limits.
Seriously...I did not catch that. Is that on a document somewhere?Did everyone also notice that all residents who are fully vaccinated will not count against current capacity level limits.
Can one identify as a vaccinated person?That's comical. Will they walk around with a T-shirt saying "fully vaccinated, don't mess with me" to show they don't count?
That's silly, they'll be the ones with tails.Can one identify as a vaccinated person?
Can one identify as a vaccinated person?
A COVID-19 Vaccination Record Card from the CDC can be carried and presented to gate personnel.That's silly, they'll be the ones with tails.
They gave us cards with the dates of the shots stamped on it N which vaccine you got. The cards are a little bigger than an id.Can one identify as a vaccinated person?
Honest question, does the data back that up or just what you/we see on TV? Is it actually one of the worst for 65+?The vaccination roll out in Illinois has been terrible. One of the worst states in the nation when it comes to seniors getting the vaccine. Every time I watch the news I see young adults getting the vaccine while seniors are still waiting to get an opportunity to even schedule the shot.
It was 20%. Today's announcement should make people furious. First, he just made it harder for seniors to get vaccinated. Everyone 16 and up eligible April 12. So the most vulnerable population could have more difficulty. Then when it comes to watching HS sports...the opening up is tied to vaccinations now. The ability to watch your son or daughter at an event could be dependent upon other stranger's medical decisions for vaccinations. This is ABSURD. Almost like a backhanded way of mandating the vaccine, so that we need to get to a metric to get full normalcy back. Unbelievable!
Bullsh*t. My dad is 87 and his doctor gave him the number to schedule a vaccination shot at the Will County Health Department weeks ago. He tried and tried to schedule one and couldn't. That Health department is a joke and has really botched this. My dad finally got an appointment set up earlier this week for...wait for it...APRIL 29th!This is how herd immunity works. If you are elderly and in a vulnerable category and haven't been vaccinated yet, that is on you.
Gee, I remember the history books when I was in school. They talked about a certain country in Europe in the 1930s and 40s that required people to have and show "papers" whenever they wanted to go pretty much anywhere.Get used to having to have "papers" to go anywhere for the next 3 years. You can fight it all you want, but in order to travel international or (potentially) domestic, proof of vaccination will be needed.
Would this apply to ALL crossings at the southern US border as well?Get used to having to have "papers" to go anywhere for the next 3 years. You can fight it all you want, but in order to travel international or (potentially) domestic, proof of vaccination will be needed.
That train left the station a long time ago. 😂Would this apply to ALL crossings at the southern US border as well?
I don't have any data but like LTHSalum's father I applied to Will County Health department over a month ago and still haven't heard from them. I have also applied to Walgreen's and several other sites that are giving the vaccine and my zip code always says none available. When a location is available it is always for the 2nd dose only and not the 1st dose. In April the guv is opening up the vaccine for people over 16. Hopefully, by then most seniors who want the vaccine get it.Honest question, does the data back that up or just what you/we see on TV? Is it actually one of the worst for 65+?
GeneI don't have any data but like LTHSalum's father I applied to Will County Health department over a month ago and still haven't heard from them. I have also applied to Walgreen's and several other sites that are giving the vaccine and my zip code always says none available. When a location is available it is always for the 2nd dose only and not the 1st dose. In April the guv is opening up the vaccine for people over 16. Hopefully, by then most seniors who want the vaccine get it.
You are so wrong about the over 65 group. Where do you get yor false information?I suspect we will see varying degrees of this “25%”. My daughter is a cheerleader for youth Fball and we were told the 1st game (we are visitors) are 2 parents per but will not be enforced. But to try and stay in your “family group”. I find that fair.
It’s actually funny how all you Illinois guys are so pent up about being told you can’t go to a HS football game. LMAO. Let the kids play let the parents watch and be happy for all of them.
Go East!
WTF are you taking about?You are so wrong about the over 65 group. Where do you get yor false information?
I’m calling bullshit on this.This is how herd immunity works. If you are elderly and in a vulnerable category and haven't been vaccinated yet, that is on you.
I finally got an appointment thru my health care provider, not the county, or the other sites I applied to. I am 75 with health related issues, so it was very frustrating seeing every night on TV people not over 65 getting the vaccine. To open up the vaccines as the governor is doing to younger people when seniors who are the most vulnerable can't get an appointment on government sites is a farce. So, it is not on seniors who can't get the vaccine, but on the distribution methods of the vaccination sites, which leaves a hell of a lot to be desired.
I finally got an appointment thru my health care provider, not the county, or the other sites I applied to. I am 75 with health related issues, so it was very frustrating seeing every night on TV people not over 65 getting the vaccine. To open up the vaccines as the governor is doing to younger people when seniors who are the most vulnerable can't get an appointment on government sites is a farce. So, it is not on seniors who can't get the vaccine, but on the distribution methods of the vaccination sites, which leaves a hell of a lot to be desired.
BMW, this is what happens when you have guys coming here and just throwing crap against the wall to see what sticks, instead of having actual facts and knowing what the hell is going on around them. This is also what happens when a person takes what most of the media says as Gospel.I’m calling bullshit on this.
my in-laws are 88 and 84 and are relatively computer savvy for their generation and couldn’t get their own appointments scheduled.
I don’t disagree with the other parts of your post, but to blame seniors for not getting vaccinated so far is complete crap and soon they will be competing with everyone above 16.
BMW, this is what happens when you have guys coming here and just throwing crap against the wall to see what sticks, instead of having actual facts and knowing what the hell is going on around them. This is also what happens when a person takes what most of the media says as Gospel.
My dad has a computer and is pretty saavy on it. And in the second part of your first sentence are things you didn't initially say. You blamed it entirely on the elderly. If you had said this in the first place, I wouldn't have had much of a problem with it because my dad was trying for weeks. He knows how to use the resources. But the resources suck.Odd take. The only "media" I follow is Reuters, so not sure how that fits your narrative.
So sorry if I touched a nerve with the masses, but if you are over 70 and don't have this done by 4/1, it either isn't that important to you or you don't have access to or know how to use resources. If these are your two issues, I would hope family would help, which I did with elderly family members.
So sensitive on here this week...
@Gene K. glad you got yours!
My dad has a computer and is pretty saavy on it. And in the second part of your first sentence are things you didn't initially say. You blamed it entirely on the elderly. If you had said this in the first place, I wouldn't have had much of a problem with it because my dad was trying for weeks. He knows how to use the resources. But the resources suck.
We don't live somewhere downstate where the availability might be less and driving to get the shot is further. We live here in Will County where you would think things might be smoother. They aren't.
You assume a few things. First, not all elderly people have family who can help. Some do, but they might not be local. Second, as incredible as it may seem to you, not all elderly people even own a computer and can't get to the library to use one. Some who do, aren't very educated on it. So, they still count on the phone. Hell, some seniors don't even own a cell phone. Some aren't as independent as you think and outlets for help aren't plentiful.
Maybe someday you'll live to the age near 90. If you do, you had better pray you have control of your faculties. Because you might not get there or have those faculties if you do. For a man turning 88 shortly, he is incredible shape physically and mentally. And even he had problems scheduling an appointment. He has always been very aware of his physical well being and never misses a doc apt. He is still driving and is very independent.
The only thing I can think of that he worries about or has a concern with is the thought of being dependent on anyone else. I have heard that lecture from him many times. It is probably normal for anyone still able to function by himself.
I don't think guys like you understand how hard it is for some of these seniors to let go of control of their lives, even when they should. You might be surprised how many of them don't understand their Medicare Supplement plans, or Medicare Advantage plans or Part D drug cards. It's more than you think.
Try not to blame this too much on the seniors and show some patience, because hopefully, your time is coming.
Thank god for streams lmao!!
The biggest complaint I heard from Grandparents is "they can't see the numbers", but they did enjoy getting to watch.In my game previews this past week, I listed all the streaming info for each team in my area. I plan to do that all season long.
Streaming games. no matter what sport or level of that sport, is the wave of the future for HS sports. I talked to parents and they like it, especially when their child's sporting events are right after school. Also, is extremely helpful for grandparents who don't have to walk a long way in parking lots, drive in the dark or bad weather, or sit in bleachers.
The biggest complaint I heard from Grandparents is "they can't see the numbers", but they did enjoy getting to watch.
Lol, our home uniforms are really tough to seeI have the same complaint. And I am on the sidelines.
To address your first sentence. You did clarify in your second post. But, my initial post addressed your first one prompting that clarification. I have learned, the first thought a person has, is usually what they really feel. Second, we all say things without thinking and that can make it come out wrong. But, writing takes thought. Plus, we all have the opportunity to change our thoughts before posting. We might later realize we didn't think of something or two when posting. It happens.You're going to pull a muscle reaching to vilify me for the comment. I clarified in my second post.
How about this instead: If you are in a group where you should be able to easily get the vaccine and you cannot access the proper channels, please reach out to someone for help. Church groups, VFW halls, KofC, your family, more tech savvy friends. Anything. I want nothing more than for people in harms way vaccinated first.
Better? Bunch of snowflakes on here, jeez.