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eireog · Nov 9, 2024

4Afan said:
Why not MaxPreps? That's what other states use. My issue with those two is we don't know what goes into their algorithm and how different aspects of the season are weighted, such as injuries.

Fine. Seeding is ridiculous, anything other than the current system would be an improvement.

Dick Saban · Nov 9, 2024

corey90 said:
Doc,
We haven’t had issues in the past. I agree I may have jumped the gun when I saw the refs. We’re good. I don’t get the remark about LWE yes I am a huge fan but I don’t make excuses for them or fluff. Lol

Get a room, boys.

SiuCubFan8 · Nov 9, 2024

4Afan said:
Why not MaxPreps? That's what other states use. My issue with those two is we don't know what goes into their algorithm and how different aspects of the season are weighted, such as injuries.

Don’t other states use those other two as well? Knowing what goes into it important no doubt.

Dick Saban · Nov 9, 2024

Catch--22 said:
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Smoked the kicker. Surprised at the lack of discipline out of Byron today.

4Afan · Nov 9, 2024

eireog said:
On this site CalPreps and Massey have been used for years to handicap games. I’d be perfectly happy using one or both or a combination of both to seed teams

Why not MaxPreps? That's what other states use. My issue with those two is we don't know what goes into their algorithm and how different aspects of the season are weighted, such as injuries.

eireog · Nov 9, 2024

ramblinman said:
Don't fret too much...Fenwick is used to getting jobbed by the zebras in the playoffs.

Will they lawyer up again this year?

SiuCubFan8 · Nov 9, 2024

eireog said:
On this site CalPreps and Massey have been used for years to handicap games. I’d be perfectly happy using one or both or a combination of both to seed teams

There were posts on what it would look like, to be fair I didn’t dig into it. I think I was arguing with tucs after the sf/Naz game. Lol

eireog · Nov 9, 2024

4Afan said:
How can you say that when you don't know what rankings the computer would spit out? When it was used in college the computers would love teams, such as Notre Dame, and it usually made no sense when the computers would have them, top 5, for example, but everyone who voted on the rankings would barely have them in the top 10.

How would the computers factor in public vs. private?

On this site CalPreps and Massey have been used for years to handicap games. I’d be perfectly happy using one or both or a combination of both to seed teams

4Afan · Nov 9, 2024

PowerI66 said:
My only issue with the current system is when people claim a team is a "top" 16, 8, etc. team in ?A because they advanced to a certain round. Ignoring the path to said round

I follow more of the small classes and I really don't hear people saying that type of stuff. Maybe it's more in the higher classes.

IHSAfan207 · Nov 9, 2024

corey90 said:
Look at a thread above didn’t he say he didn’t like when Refs were involved. Come on that to me is an excuse. Really Refs are involved. 😂

Refs involved is not an excuse but a matter of fact in sports. We are in a specific game thread and yes by calling a penalty there, whether deserved or not, was being involved in a pivitol point of this particular game, I don't care if you are for or against the call it's still being involved. Come on, its not that difficult of a concept. By the way I was there rooting for Montini but still a fan of football.

doctor_d · Nov 9, 2024

corey90 said:
Doc,
We haven’t had issues in the past. I agree I may have jumped the gun when I saw the refs. We’re good. I don’t get the remark about LWE yes I am a huge fan but I don’t make excuses for them or fluff. Lol

Sounds good. Peace. Good luck to all the Will County schools. Grundy too.

4Afan · Nov 9, 2024

corey90 said:
Funny I was about to say the same thing about you.

and more confusion ensues.

PowerI66 · Nov 9, 2024

My only issue with the current system is when people claim a team is a "top" 16, 8, etc. team in ?A because they advanced to a certain round. Ignoring the path to said round

ramblinman · Nov 9, 2024

Don't fret too much...Fenwick is used to getting jobbed by the zebras in the playoffs.

corey90 · Nov 9, 2024

doctor_d said:
My personal opinion is that it was a tremendous game. One of the best I've seen in a good while. Byron had their chances but made too many mistakes early. It had zero to do with anything other than their own miscues. I'm not a fan of either team involved.

Doc,
We haven’t had issues in the past. I agree I may have jumped the gun when I saw the refs. We’re good. I don’t get the remark about LWE yes I am a huge fan but I don’t make excuses for them or fluff. Lol

4Afan · Nov 9, 2024

eireog said:
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It’s not perfect. 1-32 + computer ranked seeding wouldn’t be perfect either, but it would be closer to perfect than the current system.

How can you say that when you don't know what rankings the computer would spit out? When it was used in college the computers would love teams, such as Notre Dame, and it usually made no sense when the computers would have them, top 5, for example, but everyone who voted on the rankings would barely have them in the top 10.

How would the computers factor in public vs. private?

Catch--22 · Nov 9, 2024

There is just no way to compare some of the schools. We do BEAT EDGY every week, and everyone goes 6-4. Us sports dorks who live for all this stuff don’t know who the better team is half the time. So the best way is to take all opinion out of it and just use the hard facts.

Blacknight36 · Nov 9, 2024

Rough day for this officiating crew. Multiple penalties throughout the game that just should not have been called.

At the end, the DPI there was just not enough there to flag it. Direct impact on the outcome of the game. Bummer.

The “gun thing”, I saw it live. It was nothing egregious. Should have just told him to never do it again. Unless perhaps he had already received such warning earlier in the game. ???

doctor_d · Nov 9, 2024

Corey, how about you quit slumming in the 3A threads?

You can bow out peacefully, with a parting shot about how neither team would stand a chance against mighty LWE. Sound good?

corey90 · Nov 9, 2024

4Afan said:
He absolutely did not. He said he doesn't like when refs get involved, but the right call was made. He made an observation about one play. No where did he say or even insinuate that the refs decided the game.

Funny I was about to say the same thing about you.

Lion4Life01 · Nov 9, 2024

I fully expected an MC win, but thought it wouldn't be quite so lopsided. 7A is in trouble if MC is firing on all cylinders right now!

eireog · Nov 9, 2024

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4Afan said:
I don't understand why people are so upset with the way the IHSA seeds teams. Using the above post as an example, if a team like a 5-4 JCA is a lower seen on the road to a 5 seed that is 7-2 and they win 59-0 then who cares if they were the lower seed on the road? They were obviously the better team and the seeding and where the game was is irrelevant.

It's not a perfect system, but it's tough to find one that is more transparent. You can start tracking from the beginning of the season and know where your team will be without question.

It’s not perfect. 1-32 + computer ranked seeding wouldn’t be perfect either, but it would be closer to perfect than the current system.

4Afan · Nov 9, 2024

corey90 said:
4A where’s you fight? He insinuated the refs were the reason. Sure he said that afterwards. Why even say it? Wow you really do have to have the last word.

He absolutely did not. He said he doesn't like when refs get involved, but the right call was made. He made an observation about one play. No where did he say or even insinuate that the refs decided the game.

SiuCubFan8 · Nov 9, 2024

4Afan said:
I don't understand why people are so upset with the way the IHSA seeds teams. Using the above post as an example, if a team like a 5-4 JCA is a lower seen on the road to a 5 seed that is 7-2 and they win 59-0 then who cares if they were the lower seed on the road? They were obviously the better team and the seeding and where the game was is irrelevant.

It's not a perfect system, but it's tough to find one that is more transparent. You can start tracking from the beginning of the season and know where your team will be without question.

No doubt it’s transparent and there is something to that I admit. I would just like to see it done taking into account more than just record/playoff points. Yea it wouldn’t be perfect. We can agree to disagree. But for the love of god can we get 1-32 at least.

4Afan · Nov 9, 2024

SiuCubFan8 said:
This is all very confusing…😂

Posts tend to get that way when Corey jumps in.

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