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Naz 40-21 final!

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You know I wasn’t going to say it during the game while emotions were high and Franny still had a shot at coming back so I kept it on a side chat but after that end of half debacle I said to a buddy just imagine how dangerous they could have been the last few years with a coaching staff. I whole heartedly believe that is/was the difference. Franny has so much talent like Naz and sure people can say the talent on Franny is young and Naz is more experienced. Two years ago the same experienced talent was inexperienced and they won their first of hopefully 3. So it’s not the lack of talent, it’s not the age of the talent so that only leaves coaching. They beat great teams the last few years including Loyola and Naz this year on their talent alone and that’s impressive. Hopefully for the young talent sake Franny can get over the hump. At least they won’t have to worry about beating the best two teams they will have been punished for being too good in 5a next year.
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Naz 40-21 final!

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Irish LB said:
I was very confident going in but I’m not gonna lie I was incredibly nervous when Washington took back that kick. Naz needed that answer really bad.

Btw how on earth could Naz screw up and kick it to him? Flashbacks to Samson Evans circa 2017.
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Racki can win 100 state championships and I still will never understand nor forgive that punt. We were better off pulling a York and sprinting through the back of our own end zone.
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MC vs SR Part 105

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Silver Rain said:
Compared to some other schools I know, I don't rejoice in a Rita loss or get dejected when she wins. On the other hand, expressing satisfaction in a sweet win by your preferred team seems to be allowed on this site. Everyone is a homer here, though some of us are more enthusiastic than others. When I write a comment, I do it to please myself, not to add some vinegar to your cup of bitter tears.
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@Wittymoniker1 is one of the most chill people on this forum, and you're giving him shit? I don't read everything here, but I don't think I've ever seen negative words from him. Enjoy the victory and move on.
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corey90 said:
They are not the defense we thought they would be. It’s disappointing that we can’t stop the run until the red zone. We don’t put enough pressure on the QB when we know it’s a pass play. The defense needs an identity. Eberfool can’t motivate players. I am sure this has something to do with the lack of focus.
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Wins and losses are what come first. And points scored and given up are what most directly lead to wins and losses. I don't care if the Bears give up yards as long as it isn't leading to a lot of points scored. And at this point in the season it hasn't.

Again I will point you to the fact that the Bears are giving up only 19 points per game and ask you once again, show me another team that has given on average less than 20 points a game but has only four wins. The defense isn't the problem here. What more do you want? I will take an average of less than 20 points a game and be happy with it.
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Naz 40-21 final!

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Green Knights 17 said:
From my experience teams that run all those trick plays realizes that they are out matched and need to find momentum in other ways. They ran them Week 9 and it worked out for them, this time it did not. If both teams played straight up, I think Naz wins 9 out of 10 times. Both teams are overly talented, but SF is young playing a group of 6 starters that have 3 years of Varsity experience. Seniors' vs inexperienced players, leads to more victories this time of the year.
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The SF play where the entire OL shifts…they did it a few times. Naz jumped on o e and was called for offsides, the other time it was a bad snap and a sack, not sure what happened the 3rd time.

My point is..do it once and then be done with it. It’s a gimmick play they used multiple times. As others have said - they’re a good team and don’t need to be doing plays like these.

At the end of 2Q, I thought they should’ve settled for the FG. It was a short kick. Score is then 20-10, they get the ball back to start 2H which eventually turned into a run back would’ve made it 20-17. Instead, SF runs the Philly special and is snuffed out. Result - 0 pts.
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Bears

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corey90 said:
They are not the defense we thought they would be. It’s disappointing that we can’t stop the run until the red zone. We don’t put enough pressure on the QB when we know it’s a pass play. The defense needs an identity. Eberfool can’t motivate players. I am sure this has something to do with the lack of focus.
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They are top 10 in scoring defense and yards/game. They are 11 in rushing yards allowed per game. A top 10 defense is what was expected and that's what they are.
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Football Enrollment

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4A
(rest to come tomorrow)
1 - Chicago (Sullivan) vs. 32 - Chicago (Noble/Bulls)
2 - Breese (Central) vs. 31 -Harrisburg
3 - Chicago (South Shore) vs. 30 - Chicago (Senn)
4 - Waterloo (H.S.) vs. 29 - Decatur (St. Teresa)
5 - Chicago (Marshall) [Coop] vs. 28 - Chicago (Goode)
6 - Palos Heights (Chicago Christian) vs. 27 - Taylorville
7 - Chicago (North Lawndale Charter) vs. 26 - Marengo
8 - Richmond (R.-Burton) vs. 25 - Chicago (C. Hope Academy)
9 - Mahomet (Seymour) vs. 24 - Sandwich
10 - Chicago (Agricultural Science) vs. 23 - Chicago (Curie)
11 - Chicago (Simeon) vs. 22 - Jacksonville (H.S.)
12 - Woodstock (North) vs. 21 - Mt. Zion
13 - Roxana vs. 20 - Chicago (Clemente)
14 - Highland vs. 19 - Johnsburg
15 - Chicago (Corliss) [Coop] vs. 18 - Chicago (Prosser)
16 - Columbia vs. 17 - Chicago (Mather)
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Football Enrollment

Snetsrak61
3A
1 - Byron vs. 32 - West Frankfort (Frankfort)
2 - St. Joseph (Ogden) vs. 31 -Aurora (Christian)
3 - Wilmington vs. 30 - Mt. Carmel
4 - Olney (Richland County) vs. 29 - Fairbury (Prairie Central)
5 - Dixon (H.S.) vs. 28 - Stillman Valley
6 - Princeton vs. 27 - Bloomington (Central Catholic)
7 - Monmouth (M.-Roseville) vs. 26 - Genoa (G.-Kingston)
8 - Nashville vs. 25 - Oregon
9 - West Chicago (Wheaton Academy) vs. 24 - Virden (North Mac)
10 - Pana (H.S.) vs. 23 - Rockford (Lutheran)
11 - Vandalia vs. 22 - Paxton (Buckley-Loda)
12 - Chicago (Kennedy) vs. 21 - DuQuoin (H.S.)
13 - Carterville vs. 20 - Peotone
14 - Monticello vs. 19 - Benton
15 - Manteno vs. 18 - Tolono (Unity)
16 - Coal City vs. 17 - Murphysboro
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Football Enrollment

Snetsrak61
2A
1 - Farmington vs. 32 - Dupo
2 - Johnston City vs. 31 -Mackinaw (Deer Creek)
3 - Williamsville vs. 30 - Kewanee (H.S.)
4 - Downs (Tri-Valley) vs. 29 - Red Bud
5 - Maroa (M.-Forsyth) vs. 28 - Erie [E.-Prophetstown Coop]
6 - Greenville vs. 27 - Carlinville
7 - Elmwood [E.-Brimfield Coop] vs. 26 - Clifton (Central)
8 - Casey (Westfield) vs. 25 - Ottawa (Marquette)
9 - Chester vs. 24 - Dwight [Dwight/Gardner-So. Wilmington Coop]
10 - Eureka vs. 23 - Stanford (Olympia)
11 - Seneca vs. 22 - Fairfield
12 - Sterling (Newman Central Catholic) vs. 21 - Flora
13 - Taylor Ridge (Rockridge) vs. 20 - Carthage (Illini West)
14 - Sesser (Valier) [Coop] vs. 19 - Shelbyville
15 - Carmi (White County) vs. 18 - El Paso (Gridley)
16 - New Berlin [Coop] vs. 17 - Macomb
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Football Enrollment

Snetsrak61
Class 1A
(we're seeding everyone 1-32, obviously)
1 - LeRoy vs. 32 - Moweaqua (Central A & M)
2 - Lena (L.-Winslow) vs. 31 -Nokomis
3 - Sullivan [Sullivan-Okaw Valley Coop] vs. 30 - Catlin (Salt Fork)
4 - Bismarck (B.-Henning-Rossville-Alvin) vs. 29 - Fithian (Oakwood)
5 - Pecatonica [Du-Pec Coop] vs. 28 - Galena (H.S.)
6 - Hardin (Calhoun) [Coop] vs. 27 - Jacksonville (Routt) [Coop]
7 - Camp Point (Central) vs. 26 - Mt. Sterling (Brown County)
8 - Arthur (A.-Lovington-Atwood-Hammond) vs. 25 - Tuscola
9 - Gibson City (Melvin-Sibley) vs. 24 - Bridgeport (Red Hill)
10 - Momence vs. 23 - Stockton
11 - Rushville (R.-Industry) vs. 22 - Niantic (Sangamon Valley) [Coop]
12 - Toulon (Stark County) vs. 21 - Westville
13 - Lanark (Eastland) [Eastland-Pearl City Coop] vs. 20 - Carrollton
14 - Greenfield [G.-Northwestern Coop] vs. 19 - Winchester [West Central Coop]
15 - Toledo (Cumberland) vs. 18 - Kewanee (Wethersfield) [Annawan-Wethersfield Coop]
16 - Warrensburg (W.-Latham) vs. 17 - Princeville
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Football Enrollment

Snetsrak61
Its been tossed around before, but I don't think I've seen anyone take a formal attempt at laying out what it would look like.

Below posts will be a look at a Football Enrollment methodology.

Basic Method;
1. Your Football enrollment is your opponents enrollment averaged, with the top and bottom enrollment eliminated
2. I excluded out of state opponents
3. This was a judgement call, but I multiplied all private school enrollment figures. I think if a modernized FE were to be implemented this would need to be looked at. It didn't have huge impact if I did it on unmultiplied. For the private schools, an average change of 192 to the football enrollment number. Seemed to impact the smaller private schools more than the CCL/ESCC guys.

Results by class will be in the post below. Here are the cutoffs though compared to the current enrollment cutoffs in 2024


ClassCurrent RangeFE Range
1A(0 - 292.5)(220 - 325)
2A(296.5 - 403.5)(325 - 436)
3A(406.5 - 542.5)(439 - 580)
4A(553 - 844)(581 - 997)
5A(848 - 1,272.5),(1,017 - 1,373)
6A(1,723 - 1,802)(1,377 - 1,666)
7A(1,604 - 2,156)(1,666 - 2,173)
8A(2,190 +)(2,190 +)

Where would the 16 state finalists have been? So we'd have a least 4 new finalists. And potentially more depending how brackets were to shake out. YES, private schools have inflated. Not to be unexpected, but I'll point out that at least a couple traditional power public school programs / recent state finalists have as well: Rochester 5A, Cary Grove 7A, Prairie Ridge 7A, Kankakee 7A (probably more, but those were a few I noticed)
1A - Lena (L.-Winslow)
2A - Maroa (M.-Forsyth)
3A - Monticello
4A - Palos Heights (Chicago Christian)
4A - Mt. Zion
5A - Belleville (Althoff Catholic)
6A - LaGrange Park (Nazareth Academy)
6A - Chicago (DePaul)
6A - Lombard (Montini)
7A - Wilmette (Loyola Academy)
7A - Joliet (Catholic Academy)
7A - Chicago (Mt. Carmel)
7A - Geneva
7A - Batavia
8A - East St. Louis (Sr.)
8A - Elmhurst (York)

Classes to follow;
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Finals predictions: Closest and Most lopsided title games

crusader_of_90
Belleville (Althoff Catholic) -18. The Crusaders can key on the run game (23 pass attempts) and Dowell has a huge game. Althoff O will be too much.

Maroa (M.-Forsyth) -2.5. Experience will be a big factor here.

Lombard (Montini) -33. Monticello is not gonna be ready for what awaits them.

Mt. Zion -3. Watched them shut down a really good Breese Central team and I know nothing about DePaul, except that their facilities look awesome.

LaGrange Park (Nazareth Academy) -15. Naz is too much and they will wear down the Hillmen.

East St. Louis (Sr.) -24. I see Bass shutting down Taylor and the other CBs getting picks off hurried throws.

Chicago (Mt. Carmel) -9. Lynch has his team humming, and the CMC victory song will be played at the end of this contest.

Wilmette (Loyola Academy) -10. The second-best team in the state should roll.
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Naz 40-21 final!

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Irish LB said:
I was very confident going in but I’m not gonna lie I was incredibly nervous when Washington took back that kick. Naz needed that answer really bad.

Btw how on earth could Naz screw up and kick it to him? Flashbacks to Samson Evans circa 2017.
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From my experience teams that run all those trick plays realizes that they are out matched and need to find momentum in other ways. They ran them Week 9 and it worked out for them, this time it did not. If both teams played straight up, I think Naz wins 9 out of 10 times. Both teams are overly talented, but SF is young playing a group of 6 starters that have 3 years of Varsity experience. Seniors' vs inexperienced players, leads to more victories this time of the year.
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MC vs SR Part 105

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Wittymoniker1 said:
Don't lie. You very much intended to do it.
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Compared to some other schools I know, I don't rejoice in a Rita loss or get dejected when she wins. On the other hand, expressing satisfaction in a sweet win by your preferred team seems to be allowed on this site. Everyone is a homer here, though some of us are more enthusiastic than others. When I write a comment, I do it to please myself, not to add some vinegar to your cup of bitter tears.
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