PowerI66 said:

Different situations. I think OC makes a huge difference there. Watching last night made me think of how much better their scheme is. On the flip side, Caleb has definitely had bad passes. Daniels has had much better decision-making so far.

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I said I wanted Kingsbury but was laughed at. That being said no matter what the OC calls it's not his doing that led to Daniels going 21-23.

brucealmighy said:

It seems like there are a lot more football and basketball academies nowadays which makes it harder for regular high schools to crack the top 25

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It seems more so in Basketball

How about the run that Southlake Carroll in Texas had from 2002-2006.

It seems like there are a lot more football and basketball academies nowadays which makes it harder for regular high schools to crack the top 25

GhostOfTheGhhost said:

If DLS was in the CPL, they would forfeit this week due to lack of players, then come back next week with 20 new guys, then hang 60 on Naz next week.

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For the record, chicago public league teams that lost a 1-0 forfeit game and then played a game the next week have the following records via my counting on ihsa websites
2024/ 2-5 so far this fall, 29 pct win
2023/ 1-8 last season, 11 pct win
2022/ 4-9 two years ago, 30 pct win
Obviously does not include games for teams that forfeited one week and then forfeited again the next week. Nor does it include week 9 forfeit losses as there was no week 10 game for them.
If you said a CPL team forfeited one week and played a chicago Kelly type team the next, I could buy what you wrote.
Using Nazareth academy as the example of a loser is not realistic in this scenario.

I would make the argument that DGN should be ranked #1 in the state

So the answer is…lots of teams over the years.

eireog said:

DePaul and Fenwick are the best CCL teams on the Northside (north of Madison) not called LA. Can DPCP give the Ramblers a game this week? We might hear something on week 5 of this thread.

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DCP may shock the whole state with an "upset".

Wittymoniker1 said:

Good stuff several years ago on this board when Rita visited Sterling in the playoffs.

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If I moved and stayed in Illinois Sterling area would be on my short list as with Morris Illinois area. Playoff football over 50 plus years has taken me all over the state, but those two communities kind of hit a cord with me. Sterling were very friendly hosts. I follow them ever year since we played then.

Lmao

Tim, this is a beautiful essay, on the surface about the Sox, but actually about the art of losing.

I thought that Lenti showing up over there for a game or two was part of the reason

USD24 said:

Providence and Mt Carmel are ranked in numerous years in these rankings. A fair amount of other Illinois schools make appearances.

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It's fun to look at, but you can't put any stock into national HS rankings since there's no publication that travels around to watch teams around the country.

MC63 said:

Mt Carmel has won 15 state championships. Of these, two were at the highest level at that time; twelve were one level down; and one was two levels down. We've lost five state championship games: two at the highest level at that time, and three at one level down. We lost in the semis in 1987 to East St Louis in the highest level. In the seven years from 2006 to 2012, we competed in 8A playoffs.

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Silver Rain said:

I've heard it said that if MC wins state this year, they'll be in 8A next year, which should result in some interesting match-ups. MC's record in 8A title games is 1-2.

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Wrong thread guys.

McCaravan said:

When HB took over SL they were on their second decade of being a consistently below average program with little success. He brought them to the State semifinals two years in a row and then the State Quarterfinals. After a bad season in 2019 he was let go. Reasons vary as to why.

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*2018
2019 season was Nissen's first year

4Afan said:

These rankings for 2005 had LWE at #9, Morris at #16, and Prospect at #30.

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Providence and Mt Carmel are ranked in numerous years in these rankings. A fair amount of other Illinois schools make appearances.

USD24 said:

List of final national rankings since 1991


National Rankings

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These rankings for 2005 had LWE at #9, Morris at #16, and Prospect at #30.

List of final national rankings from 1991-2012


National Rankings

crusader_of_90 said:

I think some of the WWS teams might have beem ranked a while by. Tommy Z's teams, maybe?

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WWS finished #13 in 92 and #12 in 98

Between 99-01 JCA was ranked nationally each year. Finished 2000 ranked #9, 1999 #21 and 2001 #27

JCA has been I believe. The 1990 Morris team that Alstott ran all over was nationally ranked going into that game. The 2005 Redskins ended up ranked 50 something.

Fishwater41 said:

With that loss to NIU, and then NIU losing to Buffalo should end any talk of ND making the playoffs. Weak schedule and they don't belong.

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If they only have one loss they'll be in. When it comes down to it the playoff is about the almighty dollar and ND brings fans wherever they go and with a nationwide fan base they'll tune in from all over the country. Whether they belong or not is irrelevant, their brand brings in money for the CFP that very few others, if any, can.

Carmel Catholic 2003

With that loss to NIU, and then NIU losing to Buffalo should end any talk of ND making the playoffs. Weak schedule and they don't belong.

In other news, just saw Wilmo ranked as the #38 program in the IHSA top 50.