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Monticello 23-20 final

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good_nocall said:
I saw it. And I told my son that #22 was ineligible before the ball was even snapped. The flag isn't thrown until the ball is actually thrown that's why it was late and down the field. Officiating crew had perfect mechanics on that play and the flag was thrown by the correct official.
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Can you explain why he was ineligible? Just curious because from our perspective he was lined up as the running back. Just wondering
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I m writing this before Saturday night semi KO so it’s just still an educated guess but I am thinking that next weekend the brilliant qbs at Lincoln-Way East and Mt.. Carmel are going to lead their teams to dominating wins in the state finals.
based on their current college choices, it is obvious that the junior qb and Oregon commit from L-W East is considered a better collegiate prospect than the Vanderbilt commit from Mt. Carmel.
I have no problem at all if the L-W East qb winds up as player of the year.
That said, nobody is more valuable to his own team than the Mt. Carmel qb.
There might be players at other schools with off-the-chart stats, but the Mt. Carmel qb is in this view, more important to the success of his team than any other player in the state, especially when you consider the competition he faces every weekend.
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Monticello 23-20 final

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bmlaken said:
Please tell me someone else saw this
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I saw it. And I told my son that #22 was ineligible before the ball was even snapped. The flag isn't thrown until the ball is actually thrown that's why it was late and down the field. Officiating crew had perfect mechanics on that play and the flag was thrown by the correct official.
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Coal City gets Feetoed

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feeto said:
Don't sleep on DePaul next weekend.
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doctor_d said:
I’m not convinced that DePaul was actually an underdog, but good call. Sounded like a great game.
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DePaul it NO underdog, I and many others picked DePaul to win it all back in early October.

Congrats to Coal City, you played well.
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Success Factor/NAZ

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olderbytheminute said:
I agree with you in that I do not like the success factor. But that was not your point.
Your point was they should stay in 6a if they are succes-factored into that class and since there is a success factor in existence, sticking a school with a success factor multiplier forever makes zero sense.
If your argument is that there should be no success factor or there should be a success factor for every school playing football, that’s a discussion I would like to see the ihsa have.
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Well wasn't my original argument. But poster was obviously pointing out the absurdity of the SF. I don't believe it was an argument to have either team stay in 6A.

I'd personally love to see Naz in 6A full time, but I see no reason for them to opt up when a two year run would just bump them up to 7A. Might as well just play where IHSA places them and shrug shoulders at the absurdity. Not like it's an issue you can easily whip up votes for to change since it impacts so few.
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Monticello 23-20 final

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bmlaken said:
Most insane ending I’ve seen. Tolono throws a screen pass to seemingly end it. Team and fans storm the field but Tolono apparently called timeout with one second left. Fans and team off the field plus a 15 yard penalty. Tolono completes a 38 yard haul Mary that is negated for an illegal man downfield and game ends. Monticello wins 23-20
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I don’t understand
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Monticello 23-20 final

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Most insane ending I’ve seen. Monticello scored to take the lead. Tolono throws a screen pass to seemingly end it with 6 seconds left. Team and fans storm the field but Tolono apparently called timeout with one second left. Fans and team get taken off the field plus a 15 yard penalty is administered to Monticello. Tolono completes a 38 yard haul Mary that is negated for an illegal man downfield and the game ends. Monticello wins 23-20
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Success Factor/NAZ

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Snetsrak61 said:
What's the justification for moving them up in the first place? To get them in the "right" class presumably? We'll then I guess merely failing to trophy twice doesn't mean they are in the wrong class either.

If you win too much your in the wrong class and then if you don't win enough you're in the wrong class. It's Schrodinger's classification.

IHSA should get rid of all success based classification metrics (including the multiplier waiver, IMO). They just don't make sense. Figure out other classification methods than enrollment if you want, but being successful in your class shouldn't indicate an incorrect classification.
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I agree with you in that I do not like the success factor. But that was not your point.
Your point was they should stay in 6a if they are succes-factored into that class and since there is a success factor in existence, sticking a school with a success factor multiplier forever makes zero sense.
If your argument is that there should be no success factor or there should be a success factor for every school playing football, that’s a discussion I would like to see the ihsa have.
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