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Question for @Silver Rain and @80sRambler – where, how can we see a replay of the game? The U website isn’t much help.
Unsure it’s posted anywhere yet. I did notice The U posted the Lyons v. York game this past Thursday so fingers crossed it shows up there in a few days. There are some highlight packages out there in the meantime.
As far as the announcing I guess the had no real information after the three to five minute discussion of seeding in 8A either. Believed LWE would be number one seed with more playoff eligible teams. 7-5 . Wrong is never right. Hard to complain when it is the best TV coverage we get for HS football.
I guess my question is why post anything if you don’t really know. I learned my lesson. I will wait until it’s coming from the school/AD. Or the Edge man. Lol
I trust Tim if he posts it.
I did say you and @Vincennes6410 should be scaring kids at a haunted house. I thought that was a solid effort. 🤷♂️
Last year, in answer to the same question, McCaravan said that the U would post it on YouTube in six or seven months, and so it came to be.
They do with the State games I’m not sure about the regular season games that they broadcast. Last years MC/LA game isn’t on You Tube
Personally, I don't care if a team plays up, or not. However, your constant bashing of other schools that don't petition up, when your school plays 7A even though we all know they can easily compete in 8A, is the height of hypocrisy. Again, I don't have anything against MC. It's your attitude about playing up that I find laughable.
As a neutral observer I think it was fairly obvious Loyola's defense was extremely well coached and prepared to stop Dupree. They keyed on him all game and it was effective. Dupree still made some plays but it seemed after a while MC accepted that they were going to have to win another way. After that it seemed the plan was to go scramble drill with the QB or throw to 10.
I guess my only concern is the last four words of your comment...
I agree.. LWE staff and roster is the only ones that can compete with LA in 8A. The Defense is to strong for the rest to move the ball on. I hope I’m wrong and we see some competitive games.
Personally I think the only team other than LWE with an explosive enough offense to compete with Loyola is Barrington. But Loyola wouldn't play Barrington until the title game, and that is a big if, considering Barrington needs to top Maine South and then knock off LWE to even get there.
A very wise person said that if a lie or misleading statement is repeated frequently enough, people begin to believe it. In this regard, supporters of schools who play well below their capabiliiltes in the post season are looking for justification. and trophies. Apparanetly you're happy to enable them..
Let's look at the figures.
You believe that we should petition up -- okay, what about student body? We have about 550 students -- all boys. If actual enrollment was the criterion, we'd probably wind up with an enrollment equivalent to 5A programs.
Playing one 8A opponent doesn't make us an 8A school. Check the schedule. MC played nine opponents this season. Only three were 7A or above. The other six were 6A or 5A. We're already playing above our pay grade.
I loved the list of people who gave you a "like" - guys who are anti-me, anti-MC, or anti-Catholic. There, I've said it.
I think it's pretty much people who are anti-you. You're about as likeable as a pop quiz in a first period class on a Monday.
You are right, it is "anti-you".
I don't care about MC's actual enrollment, or who they play in the regular season, just like you don't care about IC's, JC's, etc. actual enrollment, when you constantly mock them for playing in lower classes.
In the last 9 years of playing 7A, MC has 3 titles, and a playoff record of 32-6. You, of all people, should be screaming at them to play 8A. Not win the 'meaningless' trophies in a lower class (paraphrasing your typical response to the smaller catholic schools).
I have no comment on the debate here regarding MC playing in 7A or 8A, but what I don't understand is why enrollment should matter for schools that can recruit. It doesn't seem to be a fair comparison to other schools in the various divisions who do not recruit and 90% of their student body has never touched a football, let alone was recruited to play it.
I do care abut those schools' actual enrollmnts. They should be proud to do as well as they do against big and tough competition. That being said, however, that tough competition prepares them to play that same level of competition in November.
How does this not make sense to you?
Playing big time programs for two months and then takkng on a series of less sophisticated opponents should be beneath someone's dignity.
What school do you suppport, BTW?
Sloche has five-minute highlight reels from both this year's and last year's LA game. There is also a 50-minute version filmed by someone in the stands. Many thanks to @80sRambler for finding the latest game on the U.
So, in short, you want them to bring back "football enrollment"? That assigned teams to a class based on the average enrollment of all of their opponents.
But then what would he have to bitch about....since politics are off limits on this board?
No, I was merely pointing out my school does well against schools with much larger boys enrollments.
Why do so many of you guys leap to wild conclusions? Did they eliminate Logic in college?
Your short term memory must be slipping so here's what you just posted earlier today. There's no leap or even a short step to a conclusion, you literally said teams who play in a large conference and don't petition up in the playoffs are beneath your respect.
Bingo. He went on and on giving the impression about titles won at lower levels from teams playing some games against higher levels during the season as illegitimate or less legitimate. He included JCA specifically in that assessment. Then he went on to deny it or say it wasn't what he meant. Well, he wrote it and we all know what he meant.
This is the hypocrisy right here. "We have 550 boys, we have the enrollment equivalent to a 5A program" seems to be your out for why 7A is ok and 8A is not necessary for MC.
JC fans can say "we have 300 boys and are more in the 3A enrollment range so playing 7A and up is quite a bit of a stretch" and you apply different expectations there despite the fact that MC is more woefully misplaced in 7A than JC is in 4A/5A.
MC benefits from being in 7A and not having to play the biggest of the boys. JC benefits from playing in 5A and getting to avoid the bigger boys. Neither one is placed in a class at their level of "sophistication" (your words). That said, MC is more in need of a bump up than anyone in the state. And despite your arbitrary expectations of "we play a lot of 7A schools so 7A is good enough" that is what makes all your hand wringing about other schools being inappropriately placed so hypocritical in that your school is the most incorrectly classified school. And to me that is a compliment to your program. But in your view, that is a knock on all other programs. And that vindictiveness is the difference between you and literally everyone else here. And it all stems from a weird desire to be able to say MC has the most championships and overall wins. They have neither right now, so you discredit JC and ESL because the facts don't fit your world narrative of MC always being the shiniest object.
Keep in mind that MC is the odds on favorite to win their class most years. Us smaller 5A schools are somehow misplaced because they are put in a meat grinder to have to knock off SF, Naz, Peoria, PC, JC, Morris, SHG, Sycamore, Prairie Ridge, and a bunch of other schools in a hotly contested, competitively appropriate environment. MC relative to their 7A "peers" is nowhere near as competitively balanced as those schools I mentioned above in 5A.
On two side notes, football enrollment is the answer to all of everyone's problems. For decades, schools were classified in the class where they played all year long. Your allegations of trophy shopping weren't even possible when there was FB enrollment and petitioning up wasn't an option.
Second side note, petitioning up is dumb. It denied us the opportunity to see the MC/LA rematch last fall and gave both schools a softer path to the title because LA ponied up and MC did not, so we were left with two unexciting paths to the championship. This year we have the case of Rita. They petitioned up, which is great. But now they will likely end their season with a 20-30 point loss to MC when it could have been ending with great clashes with St. Francis, Morris, Prairie Ridge, Sycamore, SHG, or Nazareth.
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Not so. Over the years, others have agreed with this position - including one from Lockport who now sides with you.
It's not vindictiveness.
Frankly, I can' see any level of satisfaction in winning a title you're overqualified for. Where's the honor? What is there to be proud of? It's like a seventh grader winning the fourth grade spelling bee.
What about the kids at the school who didn't get to the championship because someone unworthy took that spot?
I don't know the actual male enrollment of the public school teams in 7A this year, but I can guess that most have a lot more boys than my school. In 8a, there are schools with 3 times the boys in some years.
Why don't we just drop this? No one's mind is being changed.
MC runs it up the middle too often, even when it isn't helping them. Instead of running into the teeth of the Loyola defense, they should have gone around the edge, like Denny Furlong did two years ago against Batavia. Jack Elliott played pretty well, passing for three TDs, but he didn't involvee Dupree, one of his best receivers, in the passing game. An odd omission, considering that the Ramblers held Dupree to about 100 yards rushing and no touchdowns.
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Not vindictiveness? You are shockingly transparent and borderline criminally boring.
You keep bringing it up, so you’re going to continue to get shredded. Maybe you keep forgetting you bring it up constantly. Bless your heart.
First paragraph response. Remember you said that if MC wins the 7A title this year. Personally, I don't care, but apparently you do.
Second paragraph response. More proof you've lost yet another debate on this board. But you stubbornly press on and you will talk about this subject again in the future. On the one hand you want this subject to be dropped so you can slink away...again! Secondly, you ask to have the subject dropped and one minute later you respond to Silver Rain who also called for you to drop the subject for our sake, by saying "Then don't read it."
What the hell is wrong with you...really? Who besides you, does shit like this repeatedly? Do yourself a favor and take some time off. Just get away, take deep breaths and come to the realization that we aren't curing cancer here. Stop being an arrogant bore.
I’d love to see more of that option pitch with Elliot and Dupree. IMO it would be lethal. They ran it once Vs. Loyola Saturday. And what is the status on Turbo? Not having him in the Loyola game (once before the half) was a huge blow.
I thought he played great. Got his first D1 offer on Monday to Akron. Can't knock Densmore as he had a career day with 175 yards receiving but if he catches that pass that hit him in his hands in the 3rd Q that could have been a game changer. Those are the breaks. Elliott will not come close to doing what Dowling did last year, that was just an amazing performance by him in 2022, 43 TD passes was probably more then the entire teams had in the 90's, but as a junior, he's way ahead of where Dowling during his junior year. He's at 1900 yards passing, 18 TD's and 5 INT and that's through 9 games. Those are better than Justin Lynch' numbers for the 2019 State team in 14 games.
LA prepared th shut down Dupree, and it worked for the most part. they didn't even use Turbo outside a couple plays....Pat Fitzgerald has a lot of free time to help review tape!
But they went to the air and it worked for the most part, just some tough breaks on some drives. Is what it is, tough loss, LA played great, MC didn't have their best game and they were still in position to win at the end. 2022 game with a different outcome. On tot he State playoff's.
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