Even if passsed, people would just forge addresses to get around it.
I think some spring sports just had that done not too long ago, and it was then switched back. I don't think they deserve to have shortened seasons or reduced games. Maybe that school really struggles with numbers, athletes between sports, etc...the rationale is odd
They shouldnt have to. It's a ridiculous proposal. What if it is important for a family to send their kids to a private school, but there arent any within 15 miles?
Then, according to the proposal, it can widen to 30 miles
Is the proposed 15 mile radius a solution in search of a problem?
Mount Carmel has a very loyal alumni base. I'm guessing a lot of the legacy students come from more than 15 miles. Legacy students coming from the South suburbs are not going to going to go to Marian Catholic if it’s closer or to Marist or Brother Rice for that matter. It’s not just a Catholic High School education, it’s that school I’d want my son to go to. My girls went to Benet and my wife taught at Illinois Benedictine. It was just over 21 miles door to door. Is someone saying they would be barred from attending the school of their choice? I don’t think that is constitutional.
Disagree. If it passes, that would be the straw that leads at least Chicagoland private schools to leave the IHSA. They know that would significantly alter their ability to remain open and viable for most schools, so they just couldn’t tolerate it.
I think that is the goal of the amendments. They will never see the ballot. If they do, they will pass.
No legacy students keep many schools open. Even if football was banned in all of Illinois the privates would stay open. Ban students from more that 15 miles several would close.
Why would schools close? This only has to due with student athletes. If a student, legacy or otherwise, wants to attend MC, for example, from literally anywhere then nothing is stopping them. Should they choose to participate in a sport then there would be an issue.
If a school only has 200 to 500 students and you suddenly tell 20 to 40 percent of them they can’t play competitive soccer or cross country or basketball anymore then if even 40 percent of that grouping say “well I don’t want to miss out on the ability to compete” then you have an existential issue because of kids not being able to access the whole high school experience. Simple enough
Well if the teacher unions want to kill Charter and Private Schools in Chicago this would be a good way to go about it. It's also the mentality everyone should get a trophy. If the IHSA had just left the 8 classes alone, 7 and 8A would be guaranteed to go to a public school. But they also wanted to guarantee the classes 5 and 6 would be public winners too. Moving 4, 5, 6 privates into 7 and 8A didn't work out they way they wanted it.
Further - it specifies "FOR PROFIT" organizations. This is curious, and very intentional. For football - an organization like BOOM 7v7, Throw it Deep, QB One and Next Level are all LLCs, for profit organizations, so high school ADs and Coaches would not be allowed to talk with Boom representatives.
There is a large amount of students that attend schools like MC, Rita, and Rice that travel from over 15 miles (Mount Greenwood to MC is almost 15 miles) and most of them participate in Sports, whether they excel in that sport, or coming off the bench, they participate, it’s strongly encouraged and essential for many college resumes to have participation. From Football to Badminton I would say 70% of MC and other schools students participate and enjoy participating in athletics. You remove the students that live over 15 miles away or come in from IN, that’s well over 100 students, and that would very well close the doors to many schools.
I don't know private school demographics as well as you so this is an honest question. Using your numbers lets split the difference. Say a school has 350 kids and there are 30% that can't complete in sports due to living outside of the proposed 15 mile radius, are you saying that it is typical for 30% or, in this instance, 105 students (1/3 of the total attendance) that comes from beyond the 15 mile radius?
Again, honest question, if 100 student athletes were not allowed to participate in sports at MC due to the new proposal and forced to go to a private school closer to home would the decline in students from 600 to 500 at MC have a great impact? I don't know their financial situation so I'm curious.
I think the percentage that participate and the percentage that it’s important to participate vary widely by school and location. Another truth is that as the size of a school shrinks, which almost all have been shrinking recently, then the loss of just a few really hurts in those schools even being able to field an 11 person soccer/football team or a full cross country squad of 7 runners.
How sustainable is this for smaller sports? We hear the talk every year about private schools leaving the IHSA, but would this cause many private schools to drop the smaller sports? Leaving the IHSA likely wouldn't be an issue for football, basketball, volleyball, baseball, and maybe a few others. How would this work for tennis, swimming, badminton, etc.? If they are outside the IHSA would they be able to compete against schools in the IHSA? What about smaller private schools that don't offer some of these sports? How would the larger private schools be able to fill a schedule for the smaller sports if the amount of schools that offer these sports is severely limited?
I’m no expert on MC finances but assuming tuition is 15K just a guess. That’s 1.5 million in revenue lost losing 100 kids. I’m guessing that’s a killer for just about every Catholic school.
I would imagine private schools would still schedule willing public schools in regular season contests. Post seasons would be different and enrollment boundaries would be entirely lifted.
You football coaches talk to High School Coaches about players all the time. Don't know how your gonna stop that.
I think this one may have been more targeted to baseball/softball/basketball...majority of the club/travel scene in those are definitely for-profit only and would fall under this proposed rationale
A huge one. That’s 100
That's my point - the youth feeder programs would be allowed to continue as is. It's talking to the "Skills" programs that are for profit, which some programs do, I assume.
No, but at JCA 75% of the student body plays a sport therefore if you want to play a high school sport and live more than 15 miles from JCA, you cant attend that school. Its silly.
