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Quarterfinals - Breese Central @ Rochester

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Word is Tyson Binion is out for the rest of the season. Big loss for the Rockets on both sides of the ball.

Hopefully Mrozowski is good to go and the injury bug stays away. Junior Elijah Carlson will undoubtedly see more carries this week against Milk Central.
 
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The Breese defense has impressed the last two weeks, starting with a 19-2 win over a red hot Cahokia squad. They followed that with a 16-13 containment of a Mt. Zion offense with P5 talent.
Unfortunately for the Cougar defense, they will likely be on the field for most of this game. Their offense hasn’t been anything to write home about and a vaunted Rocket defense is not going to let them find their footing. Hard to see this one staying close when Rochester should have plenty of possessions.
 
Word is Tyson Binion is out for the rest of the season. Big loss for the Rockets on both sides of the ball.

Hopefully Mrozowski is good to go and the injury bug stays away. Junior Elijah Carlson will undoubtedly see more carries this week against Milk Central.
I also bet we see some Jamal Bramer in as the bruising back. Stouts has been running well. And even Fordham has shown some tough running and excellent vision.
 
Breese averaged 32 pts per game during regular season but albeit is a small sample they have averaged only 18 pts in playoffs.
 
I had forgotten Rochester and Central played in the quarters last year as well. Rochester won 42-0. Curiously, Central beat MTZ in Rd. 2 this year and last, as well. Must feel like Groundhog Day for them.
 
I had forgotten Rochester and Central played in the quarters last year as well. Rochester won 42-0. Curiously, Central beat MTZ in Rd. 2 this year and last, as well. Must feel like Groundhog Day for them.
It feels like that for all of 4A south every year since 2009. Same schools, same results. Rinse, repeat.
 
It feels like that for all of 4A south every year since 2009. Same schools, same results. Rinse, repeat.
I am begging for all classes to do one through 32 seeding. If they can propose districts which would increase travel time for all schools over a nine game season, they can push forward one through 32 seating in the playoffs.
 
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I am begging for all classes to do one through 32 seeding. If they can propose districts which would increase travel time for all schools over a nine game season, they can push forward one through 32 seating in the playoffs.
That's fine. Do it. Rochester wins titles, which means they often defeat whomever represents "the north" in class 4A. How would this really change the dominance of a program as gifted as Rochester, in a class as weak as most think 4A is? To me, it simply means they might play a game of intrigue prior to Thanksgiving weekend or the semi's. But it likely would not slow their conquest entirely.
 
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I also bet we see some Jamal Bramer in as the bruising back. Stouts has been running well. And even Fordham has shown some tough running and excellent vision.
Any of those backs will work to draw the D's attention away from Henry Beucker running through the secondary like a cat with his tail on fire.
 
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Rochester playoff win opponents in 4A (and one year in 5A - 2019) since 2009 prior to the championship game. So rounds 1 thru semi's.
I had in my head more repeat drubbings than they actually have, but it's still pretty hilarious that some of these schools are even on the field with Rochester, QND's bum ***es included. 😁 4 times... 😖 Ouchbang

Mascoutah - 2009, 2019 (5A)
Mt. Carmel (town) - 2009
Quincy Notre Dame - 2009, 2010, 2011, 2014
Freeburg - 2010, 2021
Effingham - 2010, 2022
Metamora - 2010
Manteno - 2011
Bishop McNamara - 2011
Charleston - 2011, 2012
Mahomet-Seymour - 2012
Peoria Notre Dame - 2012
Harrisburg - 2012, potentially 2023
Taylorville - 2013, 2018
Breese Mater Dei - 2013
Belleville Althoff - 2013, 2016, 2017
Rock Island Alleman - 2013
Mt. Zion - 2014, 2016
Bloomington Central Catholic - 2014
Herrin - 2014, 2017
Alton Marquette - 2015
Murphysboro - 2015, potentially 2023
Civic Memorial - 2016
Canton - 2016
Prairie Central - 2017
Highland - 2017, 2019 (5A)
Breese Central - 2018, 2022, 2023
Pontiac - 2018
LaSalle Peru - 2019 (5A)
Sacred Heart Griffin - 2019 (5A)
Cahokia - 2021
Paris - 2021
Carterville - 2022
Lincoln - 2023
Coal City - 2023

Not exactly the most challenging of lists to take advantage of for 14 years... but some of these wins were more impressive than others.
 
It feels like that for all of 4A south every year since 2009. Same schools, same results. Rinse, repeat.
Earlier this season, i looked at Rochester's results against the teams in the 618 for playoffs only since 2009. Rockets have gone 21 and 1 with the only loss to Althoff in 2015 3rd round. Average score of games were 47 for and 19 against.
 
Rochester playoff win opponents in 4A (and one year in 5A - 2019) since 2009 prior to the championship game. So rounds 1 thru semi's.
I had in my head more repeat drubbings than they actually have, but it's still pretty hilarious that some of these schools are even on the field with Rochester, QND's bum ***es included. 😁 4 times... 😖 Ouchbang

Mascoutah - 2009, 2019 (5A)
Mt. Carmel (town) - 2009
Quincy Notre Dame - 2009, 2010, 2011, 2014
Freeburg - 2010, 2021
Effingham - 2010, 2022
Metamora - 2010
Manteno - 2011
Bishop McNamara - 2011
Charleston - 2011, 2012
Mahomet-Seymour - 2012
Peoria Notre Dame - 2012
Harrisburg - 2012, potentially 2023
Taylorville - 2013, 2018
Breese Mater Dei - 2013
Belleville Althoff - 2013, 2016, 2017
Rock Island Alleman - 2013
Mt. Zion - 2014, 2016
Bloomington Central Catholic - 2014
Herrin - 2014, 2017
Alton Marquette - 2015
Murphysboro - 2015, potentially 2023
Civic Memorial - 2016
Canton - 2016
Prairie Central - 2017
Highland - 2017, 2019 (5A)
Breese Central - 2018, 2022, 2023
Pontiac - 2018
LaSalle Peru - 2019 (5A)
Sacred Heart Griffin - 2019 (5A)
Cahokia - 2021
Paris - 2021
Carterville - 2022
Lincoln - 2023
Coal City - 2023

Not exactly the most challenging of lists to take advantage of for 14 years... but some of these wins were more impressive than others.
Wow...thank you for taking the time to put this together. Very interesting information!
 
Rochester at one point from 2010 to 2019 took 8 of 10 4A titles. Failing only in 2015 (loss to Althoff) and 2018 (Bishop McNamara). I don't think anyone has ever been that dominant in a 10 year stretch. Surely some of you more familiar with the northern programs can tell me if someone has. I only know of Driscoll who won 7 in a row from 2001 to 2007, six in 4A, one in 3A (2004).

For comparison purposes only, and since Driscoll also ran roughshod through 4A during their years of dominance... I looked at their opponents for their playoff wins prior to the championship game as well, rounds 1 thru semi's.

I also did the score average for Driscoll in this stretch that @CIMRY90 showed for Rochester.
32.2 ppg for, 11.1 ppg against

Dunlap - 2001
Lisle - 2001
Pontiac - 2001
Huntley - 2001
Burlington Central - 2002, 2003
Lombard Montini - 2002
Byron - 2002
Princeton - 2002
Richmond-Burton - 2003, 2005
Winnebago - 2003
Hillsboro - 2003
Dwight [Co-op] - 2004 (3A)
Stillman Valley - 2004 (3A)
Wilmington - 2004 (3A)
Tolono Unity - 2004 (3A)
Harvard - 2005, 2006
Hampshire - 2005
Coal City - 2005, 2007
Morton - 2006
Bloomington Central Catholic - 2006
Prairie Central - 2006
Bishop McNamara - 2007
Chillicothe IVC - 2007
Palos Hts Chicago Christian - 2007

Driscoll played 4 teams multiple times. (Burlington Central, R-B, Coal City, Harvard) No team more than twice.

Rochester has played 11 teams multiple times. If they win this week make it 12 teams.
Obviously larger sample size by 3 post seasons, 10 year run compared to Driscoll's 7. Three schools they've beaten 3 times, 1 school (QND) 4 times. IF Rochester beats Breese Central this weekend, they'll have beaten schools 3 times twice, 4 times twice.
 
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All.... Excluding 21 and 22. ;) Ratsy
The one school to benefit from Covid was your alma mater after their 4 loss 2019. Their two playoff victories kept them right under the multiplier for non-boundaried schools. 😉
 
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Rochester at one point from 2010 to 2019 took 8 of 10 4A titles. Failing only in 2015 (loss to Althoff) and 2018 (Bishop McNamara). I don't think anyone has ever been that dominant in a 10 year stretch. Surely some of you more familiar with the northern programs can tell me if someone has. I only know of Driscoll who won 7 in a row from 2001 to 2007, six in 4A, one in 3A (2004).

For comparison purposes only, and since Driscoll also ran roughshod through 4A during their years of dominance... I looked at their opponents for their playoff wins prior to the championship game as well, rounds 1 thru semi's.

I also did the score average for Driscoll in this stretch that @CIMRY90 showed for Rochester.
32.2 ppg for, 11.1 ppg against

Dunlap - 2001
Lisle - 2001
Pontiac - 2001
Huntley - 2001
Burlington Central - 2002, 2003
Lombard Montini - 2002
Byron - 2002
Princeton - 2002
Richmond-Burton - 2003, 2005
Winnebago - 2003
Hillsboro - 2003
Dwight [Co-op] - 2004 (3A)
Stillman Valley - 2004 (3A)
Wilmington - 2004 (3A)
Tolono Unity - 2004 (3A)
Harvard - 2005, 2006
Hampshire - 2005
Coal City - 2005, 2007
Morton - 2006
Bloomington Central Catholic - 2006
Prairie Central - 2006
Bishop McNamara - 2007
Chillicothe IVC - 2007
Palos Hts Chicago Christian - 2007

Driscoll played 4 teams multiple times. (Burlington Central, R-B, Coal City, Harvard) No team more than twice.

Rochester has played 11 teams multiple times. If they win this week make it 12 teams.
Obviously larger sample size by 3 post seasons, 10 year run compared to Driscoll's 7. Three schools they've beaten 3 times, 1 school (QND) 4 times. IF Rochester beats Breese Central this weekend, they'll have beaten schools 3 times twice, 4 times twice.
When Driscoll closed, where did that pipeline of talent move on to? Based on proximity, I'm guessing Montini and EIC??
 
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If this game was at Central, I'd give the Cougars a better shot (still wouldn't be favored). With it being at Rochester, I can't see it being closer than about 21 points.
 
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No idea. Someone up north in that area or had kids in Driscoll upon its closing may know best.
Look back through the old Edgytim threads. There was a great thread a few weeks ago that had some really interesting info regarding the closing of Driscoll
 
They could play this game on the moon or in the ocean and it would still be a 42 point running clock after 2 quarters.
Why doesn’t Rochester petition up to something more suitable, like 5A or 6A?
It’s gotta get stale pounding on the helpless, and clearly the Rocket fans know they can win titles at a higher level. Why not actually prove it?
 
Why doesn’t Rochester petition up to something more suitable, like 5A or 6A?
It’s gotta get stale pounding on the helpless, and clearly the Rocket fans know they can win titles at a higher level. Why not actually prove it?

It actually doesn't. I know you aren't used to winning so you can't understand, but just start stretching because this Rocket is gonna keep coming back bigger and harder. All the trophies are the same color gold.
 
Just curious, how many Rochester players have D1 offers? Asking because up north , we mostly hear about the LA, Batavia, MC, LWE , etc players. Way south it’s all ESL and this year, Edwardsville.
 
Look back through the old Edgytim threads. There was a great thread a few weeks ago that had some really interesting info regarding the closing of Driscoll
I remember seeing it. About making a documentary about them right? I'll have to go back and read that. Thanks forlouann.
 
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Why doesn’t Rochester petition up to something more suitable, like 5A or 6A?
It’s gotta get stale pounding on the helpless, and clearly the Rocket fans know they can win titles at a higher level. Why not actually prove it?
They have, once. They hold a 5A state title trophy.

This will be Breese Central's third trip since 2009 to the woodshed by way of the Pop-Rockets. GN just thinks he's showing some form of intelligence by spewing obvious facts and picking blowouts that everyone before him already said would be a blowout. He got nailed to the cross so we could hear his grossnoises, don't ya know... Place him on his step stool (he calls it a pedestal) or he'll hit send on the Rapture.
 
It actually doesn't. I know you aren't used to winning so you can't understand, but just start stretching because this Rocket is gonna keep coming back bigger and harder. All the trophies are the same color gold.
Well, not your personal rocket, we've already established you haven't seen yours since Derek Leonard was a ball boy at SHG. Did you have surgery to remove it or is the lifestyle you live just an expression of "who you are on the inside?"
 
Why don't you raise that unlucky baby? I was fully prepared to leave you alone. Do you really want more abuse?
I already told you a bully doesn't bother me, bud. Keep it going. Clearly your blows aren't landing or I'd have been knocked out long ago... it's 2023, bullies aren't funny anymore, they cause kids and adults alike to do terrible things that harm innocent people. Sadly, there's dudes like you that think it's still 1983 and poking the bear until it attacks is cool.

I remain capable of holding my own against dudes with keyboards and internet bills that aren't in their own name.

I'm just here to put your obvious mental illness on display as an example to other men to seek professional help.

And I'm in my daughters life, here daily, doing the best I can to send her down the right path(s). What do you do daily? Beat off, talk some mediocre smack online, project blowouts of obvious blowout games? I'm the lucky one, she's going to have it better than I ever did. That I can assure you.
 
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They have, once. They hold a 5A state title trophy.

This will be Breese Central's third trip since 2009 to the woodshed by way of the Pop-Rockets. GN just thinks he's showing some form of intelligence by spewing obvious facts and picking blowouts that everyone before him already said would be a blowout. He got nailed to the cross so we could hear his grossnoises, don't ya know... Place him on his step stool (he calls it a pedestal) or he'll hit send on the Rapture.
You're not funny at all, and your sad attempts at banter are a chore for everyone to read. But deep down you know that.
 
Why doesn’t Rochester petition up to something more suitable, like 5A or 6A?
It’s gotta get stale pounding on the helpless, and clearly the Rocket fans know they can win titles at a higher level. Why not actually prove it?
Do you mean like in 2019 when they won the 5A title over a previous 7A St. Rita?
 
Do you mean like in 2019 when they won the 5A title over a previous 7A St. Rita?
Exactly.
Why go back to dumpster diving in 4A when you already won 5A?
Should be setting your sights on some bigger fish, or at least, that’s the vibe I get from Rocket fans. Some pretty frequent chatter about being in the upper echelon, and it’s a relatively simple process to actually jump up there and prove it.
 
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