first time i disagree with the ramblr in probably six years. it was bound to happen at some point. Honestly, when i played, i loved being taunted.
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first time i disagree with the ramblr in probably six years. it was bound to happen at some point. Honestly, when i played, i loved being taunted.
So, for you, it's all great fun and within the bounds of good sportsmanship.
Not for me.
I'm torn on this one. I can see the fun in it however where do you draw the line. I'm definitely not stiff about a high school event. In the end, the game is for the kids and the schools they represent.
I have a completely different perspective on that. If your looking to get pumped up by your opponents and their fans maybe you should join the band. All you should need is what's going on inside you.
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As Brin22 alluded in a much earlier post, many of those student section members are living vicariously through their teams because they don't have the skills, abilities, desire, etc. to be out there on the floor in the first place. Instead, they are in the stands doing the equivalent of, "Hey, everyone, look at ME!"
As Brin22 alluded in a much earlier post, many of those student section members are living vicariously through their teams because they don't have the skills, abilities, desire, etc. to be out there on the floor in the first place. Instead, they are in the stands doing the equivalent of, "Hey, everyone, look at ME!"
Televised college games were you see the different student sections have trickled down to high school sports fans. I remember our fans back in hs tried to imitate duke crazies by jumping up and down, but then our team was pretty bad, so most students ended up sitting after a minute lol.
Maryland fans were brutal towards Redick when he played at duke.
Maryland fans were brutal towards Redick when he played at duke.
For those that have a problem with the taunting, do you draw a line between HS and college events? I was thinking of Duke as well. They are known for their creativity in harassing opponents at Cameron Indoor Stadium. They take great pride in it. I've heard Brother Rice fans referred to as the Crusader Crazies. Some people view the student section's zeal to support their team and harass the opponent as an example of school spirit, and it's encouraged within certain boundaries. I'm a bit surprised at the resistance to it in this thread.
College or high school, I still don't like redirecting the focus from the court to the stands. However, I guess I kind of draw a line to the extent that it is less offensive to me at the collegiate level.
Why?
Because I think of high school sports as youth sports played primarily by 15-17 year old children. College sports are played exclusively by adults.
So, let me ask you a question: If you think it is okay at the high school level, is it also okay at the junior high level? Below jr high? If not, why not?
I would be more lenient as you move up levels as well. I also agree that it can be a distraction, if taken too far. The question comes down to boundaries. What is allowable and what is not? Administrative oversight is key. I've been to games where there was a fair amount of oversight. In general, heated rivalries require more oversight. Most of the events I've attended generally have pretty good administrative oversight. When an individual or group got out of hand, it was addressed. In some cases, I've seen kids escorted out.
Do you even believe that drivel? Let the star QB get all of the glory and none of negativity. You are for everyone getting a participation trophy, too, right?
Wrong.
But, yeah, I do believe what I have said.
If you want to boo/jeer/shame some 16 or 17 year old kid who threw a pick six, I suppose that is your right. If you chose to exercise that right, it would be, in my opinion, the height of douche baggery.
There's not a poster on this board who's team doesn't talk trash, and student sections don't taunt.
Some teams may need their student sections to distract people, it might help them.
Anyone who sits on their throne professing to all that the slightest taunt or gamesmanship on the field will be met with a flogging from their yarn collection is just stupid.
Boys talk trash... period.
So what!
Personally, I think student sections are the worst. You have collections of kids who can't play the sport, but sit there and criticize how the actual players perform. The chant "air ball" or "pick six" or whatever the hell their pathetic existence can come up with as if they can shoot or pass the ball any better. Do you not see the hypocrisy in that? How is it "fun" to belittle a player for a negative play when you could not do any better. At least the players on the playing surface have the balls to get out there and try their best. Maybe players should heckle AP students when they don't get perfect scores on their test and chant "dumbass". (Not to say players are not smart, some of the brightest people I know played sports through college.)
Just some friendly advice of those who make up the student sections, you suck at sports so just shut the hell up. You have something to say put on a jersey and let your play do the talking otherwise just be a good spectator.
Just some friendly advice of those who make up the student sections, you suck at sports so just shut the hell up. You have something to say put on a jersey and let your play do the talking otherwise just be a good spectator.
Um there are several players of other sports in student sections - it's not all Spanish club or computer club or debate teamers.
The over sensitivity to this stuff is so sad.
"Please don't yell at my team on the floor or in the field they are trying very hard." Sheesh
Who cares if they play other sports, they are obviously not playing the sport they are watching. Just because you can play water polo doesn't give you the right to poke fun at a basketball player for missing a 3 pointer.
This is not about being sensitive or hurting people's feeling. It's about the people chanting looking like dbags and cowards. You got something to say, go up to they player after the game and tell them how poorly they performed...give them a chance to respond to your coward calls from the stands. I know you can answer they calls by just playing a little better, but I would rather punch them in the mouth.
All the while wearing your participation ribbon
Chanting "your good enough, your smart enough, and doggonit, you were trying!""
So every sporting event you've ever been at you have never booed yelled at coaches officials nothing like that at all? HS college or pro?
Newt, I'm sure when you are in the stands and yelling at children on the playing field, you exercise an adult sense maturity. You know JUST THE RIGHT AMOUNT of clever, negative stuff you can get away with before you cross the line. Must be fun for you.
Sadly, Newt, many adults, and most teens, don't have your sense of maturity. They do cross the line.
And, whether or not they cross the line is really immaterial. What they are doing is trying to focus the attention on themselves and away from the players. That's what bugs me the most.
Other than my kids' sporting events and SR football games, I can count on one hand the number of times I've been at a sporting event.
As for my kids events and SR games, that's my family and I would NEVER do anything other than cheer when something positive has happened. Have their been time when I was upset or disappointed, of course, but I would never scream or chant my feelings from the stands...at most I may have said "that's f*ing bullshit, "GDI" or "WTF " under my breathe, but that would be about it.
The other handful of times, I went with friends and personally could give a shit what happened on the field and definitely wasn't personally invested enough to scream from the stands.
I guess some people like sitting on the sidelines criticizing, I just rather be playing. While my college days are over I never pass on the chance to participate in leagues.
As for my kids events and SR games, that's my family and I would NEVER do anything other than cheer when something positive has happened. Have their been time when I was upset or disappointed, of course, but I would never scream or chant my feelings from the stands...at most I may have said "that's f*ing bullshit, "GDI" or "WTF " under my breathe, but that would be about it.
The other handful of times, I went with friends and personally could give a shit what happened on the field and definitely wasn't personally invested enough to scream from the stands.
I guess some people like sitting on the sidelines criticizing, I just rather be playing. While my college days are over I never pass on the chance to participate in leagues.
You just can't pass up the opportunity to crack some wise ass comment, criticize or have something negative to say...that's fine, if that's who you are. Keep on sitting on the sidelines criticizing
You and ramble-on can sit in your ivory towers and pontificate about the world you live in with blinders on and pass judgement on the rest of the world.
Get real
I'll put money on it that you're the same guy in the Bally's on Cumberland who would scream with every 25lbs dumbbell rep like he was lifting a car off his foot. He was also the one fixing his hair and flexing in the mirrors between sets.
I find it amusing that Newt and Brin are on opposite sides of a topic. Minions disagreeing with one another?
Next thing we will ask is all student sections to remain seated with an applause sign over their ahead signaling when they are allowed to heee and when they can't.
Theres a huge difference between Brin and Newt. Whether I agree or disagree with newt he is able to articulate an idea that clearly had some effort and thought behind it. Brin is the guy who stated years ago that he didnt think he should be taxed for the fire dept and voiced his opposition to health insurance.
We have to keep this in perspective.
So when I cheer the opposing team missing a free throw, which my team had nothing to do with except for putting the player at the line, am I cheering the failure of the opponent, which would be rude and demeaning to that player, or the positive event for my team? Would hate to be offensive to anyone.
How about a coach calling a timeout to "ice" a free throw shooter? Is that wrong because it is trying to "disrupt" the rhythm of the shooter? In football, what about fans making noise while the other team is trying to audible. Is that rude?
Just trying to figure out when and when not to make noise and cheer in case I am at the same game as some of these people.
We are talking about student sections and their behavior, how did we get from there to coaching icing a free throw shooter...getting way off topic.
Fine, we have differing opinions what what is appropriate behavior at sporting events...keep on booing kids and coaches, have fun!
Fine, we have differing opinions what what is appropriate behavior at sporting events...keep on booing kids and coaches, have fun!
We got there because these guys are reduced to creating straw man arguments and rejoinders in order to defend their defenseless position. Did you catch Newt's applause sign rejoinder? Pithy, and good for a couple of knee-jerk likes from the likes of Bones (the king of pithy), but totally devoid of argumentative merit.
Nope... sorry. Not my style.
I sit in the coffee shop in a sweatsuit reading the 4-12th place results online you guys celebrate with vigor and wondering when Ramble-On is going to secede from the union with the HTT NIPL brigade.
oh boo hoo. honestly, we should just cancel all sports. they have absolutely NO need in grammar, jr high, and/or high schools. these kids should be learning that is all.
then we do not have to worry about ignorant chants, thin skinned people getting upset and then want to shoot you, and then we will never have to worry about concussions ever again.
abolish them all. finally, be done with all of them. way too many kids getting hurt at a very early age now, way too many deaths from weak hearts, way way too many parents taking it as if this their kids shot at super stardom.
this is some of the weakest crap I have ever heard. do you honestly think that some kid(boy or girl) on the field/court/ice/mats is getting so worked up they cannot focus(then they do not deserve to be there in the first place) and comprehend their job/duties at that particular point in time??? or they are getting so damn upset(then the coaches) should have realized you have a
psychopath on your team) that they want to shoot someone.
or are you trying to tell me that these kids/parents are getting so angry from words/digs/chants that they are actually capable of causing bodily harm to others.
supporting and trying to simply enjoy a game and some chanting fun by normal everyday teenage students. no where in here does it say anything about calling people names.
first day of kindergarten you will hear.
sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.
“These are the things I learned (in Kindergarten):
1. Share everything.
2. Play fair.
3. Don't hit people.
4. Put things back where you found them.
5. CLEAN UP YOUR OWN MESS.
6. Don't take things that aren't yours.
7. Say you're SORRY when you HURT somebody.
8. Wash your hands before you eat.
9. Flush.
10. Warm cookies and cold milk are good for you.
11. Live a balanced life - learn some and drink some and draw some and paint some and sing and dance and play and work everyday some.
12. Take a nap every afternoon.
13. When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and stick together.
14. Be aware of wonder. Remember the little seed in the Stryrofoam cup: The roots go down and the plant goes up and nobody really knows how or why, but we are all like that.
15. Goldfish and hamster and white mice and even the little seed in the Styrofoam cup - they all die. So do we.
16. And then remember the Dick-and-Jane books and the first word you learned - the biggest word of all - LOOK.”
― Robert Fulghum, All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten
hahaha you are one of the retarded ones. they do but those kids come back after two years of heckling and ball busting, and being thrown into the lockers(bullying) and shoot up the schools now.
or they play other sports. I don't think everyone is like you brintootoo and can play 12sports and be the greatest at them all. I guessing some go from one sport and then to the bleachers and help cheer on their peers. and heckle the opposition.
if you are not mentally stable, you should not be playing a sport
Too bad your kindergarten teacher didn't tell you not to use "retarded' as an insult. That's really poor.
again if you would have attended.
sticks and stones may break your bones but NAMES will never hurt you.
get over it.
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