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4Afan
I get it. I am hopeful he can be the QB I watched at USC. He has special talents that if he can get used to playing in the NFL he will do things that you won’t believe is possible. He will definitely make watching the Bears more exciting. I am for once hopeful that the Bears will become a team to take notice.
Remove Williams and insert Fields and you have the same comments that were made when he was drafted.

Also, go back to approximately page 72 of this thread where I dove into Williams in college and not being able to beat ranked teams and his stats against them.

Wartburg College football roster

I'm a little leery of colleges that boast of huge percentages of the student body involved in athletics. Take Quincy University here in Illinois, for example. Almost 50% of their student body plays at least one sport. Is that healthy? As a sports fan, I'd say yes as a knee jerk response.

It’s not. Expect Quincy to go the way of Notre Dame College in Ohio which closed down earlier this year due to massive debt and the fact that most of the student body was involved in athletics. Somebody has to pay tuition.

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I've never been a hater, just realistic. The Bears have never drafted a franchise QB so excuse me for not being head over heels for Williams out of the gate.
4Afan
I get it. I am hopeful he can be the QB I watched at USC. He has special talents that if he can get used to playing in the NFL he will do things that you won’t believe is possible. He will definitely make watching the Bears more exciting. I am for once hopeful that the Bears will become a team to take notice.

CS8 Predictions

Tough to say how it'll go in the future. It still makes zero sense to me why the WB6 didn't just make plans to include the 2nd school in town... but the real reason lies on the hill, between 30th and 36th and Maine in Quincy.

The public school on the hill doesn't deserve any more free wins from QND. I've heard from multiple sources that deal is dead after 2024, 2025 absolute latest. The Boots Bush Blue Devils are "good" now, meaning they make the playoffs more than once every 30 years, so their focus is likely on staying within 40 pts of any school north of I-80 or named ESL.

QND needs to get BMD back on the schedule and then go find a solid "small" school with a tradition of success. Top end of the Sangamo, Camp Point is 20 minutes from Quincy, whomever.

Adjustment period aside... it's going to be painful to watch. It's already been tough since 2019... QNDs numbers what they are... it's going to be tough. We can only rely on optimism and hope to see it through. I think the boys will surprise most within the CS8 bubble this year and that's in no way, shape, or form a prediction of W's and L's. But, you know, other than that it'll be a "praying we aren't eliminated from the playoffs before week 9" and "please don't injure our starters" kind of year.
Has QND ever played Macomb? They are on the bubble between being a large 3A/small 4A school. Looks to be a little more than an hour trip. The Bombers were 4-5 last year but went 10-1 in '22.
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What does sneaky tough mean? The Lions made the NFC title game so no one is sleeping on them this year. Because of that I think they regress a little this year, they should still win the division but won't be as good. I think the Bears and Packers switch places and the Bears make the playoffs, and the Vikings won't be very good. I don't see that as "sneaky tough", just an average division.
Wait you think the Bears switch places with the Packers? Maybe you’re not a hater! 😂
Honestly I don’t think the lions regress. I am not a believer especially with the QB.

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I'm defining sneaky tough as they might not be "the best" or the sexiest but a damn solid division...again I was never the one that said they are the best.

Why do the Packers fall behind the Bears? Playoff team with a QB and had youngest roster in NFL last year. Can only use 2023 since final cuts are not made yet.

Why do the Lions regress and are not as good? Again, have a QB and one of the younger rosters last year.

Vikings I agree...
Just think the Lions snuck up on some teams last year and won't be as good this year, though still a deserving favorite to win the division. The Bears beat them once and should have been twice, but the coaches fooked that up. Love wouldn't be the first QB to take a step back after getting the big pay day.

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What does sneaky tough mean? The Lions made the NFC title game so no one is sleeping on them this year. Because of that I think they regress a little this year, they should still win the division but won't be as good. I think the Bears and Packers switch places and the Bears make the playoffs, and the Vikings won't be very good. I don't see that as "sneaky tough", just an average division.
I'm defining sneaky tough as they might not be "the best" or the sexiest but a damn solid division...again I was never the one that said they are the best.

Why do the Packers fall behind the Bears? Playoff team with a QB and had youngest roster in NFL last year. Can only use 2023 since final cuts are not made yet.

Why do the Lions regress and are not as good? Again, have a QB and one of the younger rosters last year.

Vikings I agree...

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I am not looking at things though any colored glasses but thanks. I said "I think the North is going to be a sneaky tough division". Huge proclamation I made ehh?
It is the NFL last year means squat except for the record books.
It is a conversation because it is the NFL. If you knew like you are acting, you would be on your island you would own.
What does sneaky tough mean? The Lions made the NFC title game so no one is sleeping on them this year. Because of that I think they regress a little this year, they should still win the division but won't be as good. I think the Bears and Packers switch places and the Bears make the playoffs, and the Vikings won't be very good. I don't see that as "sneaky tough", just an average division.

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Yes, that's all we have to go on. You want to compare this year, ok. The Bengals get a healthy Burrow back, the Steelers get an upgrade at QB over Pickett, no matter who starts, the Browns get Watson back to go with a top of the league defense, and the Ravens are the Ravens. How is this even a conversation? Last year, yes last year, the AFC North had all teams finish above .500, something that hasn't happened since 1935.

Stop looking at things through Bears colored glasses and be objective.
I am not looking at things though any colored glasses but thanks. I said, "I think the North is going to be a sneaky tough division". Huge proclamation I made ehh?
It is the NFL, last year means squat except for KC's trophy. I really don't care about what div had what record when they all don't play the same schedule. It is not apples to apples. And I don't care if Pit beat GB on a random Sunday/Monday/Thursday/Saturday during the regular season. It doesn't prove anything other than Pit was better on that given day.
It's a conversation because it's the NFL. If you knew like you are acting, you would be on your island you would own.

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last year...
Yes, that's all we have to go on. You want to compare this year, ok. The Bengals get a healthy Burrow back, the Steelers get an upgrade at QB over Pickett, no matter who starts, the Browns get Watson back to go with a top of the league defense, and the Ravens are the Ravens. How is this even a conversation? Last year, yes last year, the AFC North had all teams finish above .500, something that hasn't happened since 1935.

Stop looking at things through Bears colored glasses and be objective.

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If you want to seek the better divisions vs worse divisions you might want to see what the combined records were. The Chiefs won the SB in February. Yet the AFC West as a division was 32-36. The AFC North had the best combined record at 43-25. The AFC as a whole was much stronger record-wise than the NFC. The 49ers went to the SB and had a division record of 35-33. Last year the NFC North went 35-33...same as the NFC West. As a matter of fact, the NFC North was tied for second best division records in the NFL. That doesn't sound "Average" to me.
the Chargers finished 5-12 and last in the AFC West, but were 2-2 against the might NFC North. Like I said the North isn't terrible, but they're not comparable to the AFC North.
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