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CPL Outlook in 2025?

hingkenry
I've been bored looking at all of the CCL talk, we get it. Carmel = good. CCL = good.
Interested in hearing thoughts of potential top 10 CPL teams this year when compared to other CPL teams.

Interested on thoughts and rankings of teams like Simeon, Kenwood, Amundsen, Lane, Taft, Whitney, etc.

I know a lot of CPL coaches lurk these forums, interested to hear from you guys.
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Texas is Different, Man

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rocketnation said:
All the Defensive Coordinators in the CS8 breathed a sigh of relief when he moved to Texas.

Rochester had a very good Defense in '23 when Johnson was a Freshman at Decatur MacArthur. They did a very good job of containing him, except for one play. A missed arm tackle in the backfield around midfield allowed MJC to get outside and in the blink of an eye he was in the endzone.
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All.... He had an offer from Illinois before playing one down in high school. One doesn't see that happening often. Ratsy
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Texas is Different, Man

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crusader_of_90 said:
He might be produced in IL but Myson Johnson-Cook is going to finishing school at DeSoto, Texas. He has been hyped here before, for good reason. This 2027 5-star is 6/3, 220 and runs a 4.39 and apparently, a 10.3 hundred so far this season.
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All the Defensive Coordinators in the CS8 breathed a sigh of relief when he moved to Texas.

Rochester had a very good Defense in '23 when Johnson was a Freshman at Decatur MacArthur. They did a very good job of containing him, except for one play. A missed arm tackle in the backfield around midfield allowed MJC to get outside and in the blink of an eye he was in the endzone.
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Q of the Week: Who is your Sleeper Team To Watch for 2025?

StL_Alum
K3D88 said:
Zero research done but here are a few sleepers/team you'd prefer not to run into come playoff time:
8a: Marist
7a: DGN / Batavia
6a: Naz/ESL
5a: Rochelle
4a: St Laurence
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StL’s days of 4A football are over. Vikings will be in 6A or 7A this year. No more waiver and enrollment has gone up by 300-400 students since the last two year cycle.
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Caravan Opener vs Moeller

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USD24 said:
Moeller would be an 8A school. They are all boys. Their adjusted enrollment is 2900+. Gonna guess they would fare much worse vs the LA, MS, and LWE's of the world.
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True, to an extent. While they wouldn't be favored in any of those years, they would be competitive (compared to several finals games in recent years) every year except for 2019 and probably 2017.

2015

Loyola 31
Moeller 20

2016

Maine South 35
Moeller 26

2017

LWE 34
Moeller 17

2018

Loyola 21
Moeller 10

2019

LWE 34
Moeller 7

Given Moeller's record in those years I'd say it would be quite impressive if they could hang with the heavyweights they would have gone against with the exception of the 2 games against LWE.
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Caravan Opener vs Moeller

USD24
4Afan said:
While I agree, it made me curious so I looked into it, mainly to see where a historical national power team would rank against Illinois teams during a down year.

Putting Moeller up against the state champs in 6A for all of the years mentioned above, minus 2020. I put them in 6A because the enrollment number I could find for Moeller was 891 and applying the 1.65 multiplier Illinois uses puts their enrollment at 1,470. Below are the results according to Cal Preps, for what that's worth.

2015

Moeller 26
Montini 20

2016

Prairie Ridge 41
Moeller 20

2017

Prairie Ridge 34
Moeller 27

2018

Cary-Grove 24
Moeller 19

2019

ESL 46
Moeller 14

Given these projections they would have only been dominated in 2016 and 2019 and I feel like it's safe to say that a down Moeller team would still be competitive in Illinois. Yes, they could have, and likely would have been knocked off prior to the title game I wasn't going to reconstruct the entire bracket.

After this pointless bit of boredom on my part I still say MC by at least 2 scores.
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Moeller would be an 8A school. They are all boys. Their adjusted enrollment is 2900+. Gonna guess they would fare much worse vs the LA, MS, and LWE's of the world.
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Caravan Opener vs Moeller

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USD24 said:
From 2015-2020 Moeller had down years, going
2015 5-5
2016 4-6
2017 4-7
2018 6-5
2019 2-8
2020 3-6

I highly doubt they are winning state in Illinois in any of those years.
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While I agree, it made me curious so I looked into it, mainly to see where a historical national power team would rank against Illinois teams during a down year.

Putting Moeller up against the state champs in 6A for all of the years mentioned above, minus 2020. I put them in 6A because the enrollment number I could find for Moeller was 891 and applying the 1.65 multiplier Illinois uses puts their enrollment at 1,470. Below are the results according to Cal Preps, for what that's worth.

2015

Moeller 26
Montini 20

2016

Prairie Ridge 41
Moeller 20

2017

Prairie Ridge 34
Moeller 27

2018

Cary-Grove 24
Moeller 19

2019

ESL 46
Moeller 14

Given these projections they would have only been dominated in 2016 and 2019 and I feel like it's safe to say that a down Moeller team would still be competitive in Illinois. Yes, they could have, and likely would have been knocked off prior to the title game I wasn't going to reconstruct the entire bracket.

After this pointless bit of boredom on my part I still say MC by at least 2 scores.
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Chicago State is moving forward with football Head Coaching search

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JCHillmen said:
Looks like John Carroll and St. Norbert played there in 2013 in a D3 game.

If I am not mistaken, there was one year or several years where the Preseason Prep Bowl was moved from Soldier Field to SeatGeek (or Toyota).

A google search also tells me Fenwick played BR there in November 2010 for the Catholic championship for the right to play in the Prep Bowl.
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Ignatius played Walter Payton in 2014 at Toyota Park
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My Evaluation: Class of 2026 Top 5 Uncommitted Wide Receivers

EdgyTim
Just a quick overview and breakdown of several top uncommitted Class of 2026 Wide Receivers in the State of Illinois. Again this evaluation is always ongoing and if you feel I'm missing someone make sure to email me edgytim@edgytim.com with any questions/corrections to spellings etc.

Top 5 Uncommitted Class of 2026 Wide Receivers


1. WR Nasir Rankin Chicago Morgan Park 6-foot-1, 170 pounds 2026- Major Power 4 name in high demand. Possesses outstanding speed twitch and ball skills. Multi-sport athlete with incredible upside.

2. WR Zachary Washington St Francis 6-foot-2, 180 pounds 2026 An impressive collection of speed, hands and ball skill,s plus very good field vision. Several Power 4 offers already and more could follow.

3. WR Kortez Rupert East St. Louis 6-foot-2, 170 pounds 2026- Yet another top level Flyers athlete who has excellent speed and burst and impressive length. Has room to add more weight and strength at the high college level.

4. WR Blaise LaVista LW East 6-foot-3, 185 pounds 2026- Big, strong and athletic receiver who can and will outrun or outmuscle opposing defenders. Has sneaky deep speed.

5. WR Trenton Walker Nazareth Academy 6-foot-3, 185 pounds 2026 Great size length and reach along with more room to grow and improve. Made several big time catches for the Road Runners over the past few seasons.

The Next 5 Top Uncommitted Wide Receivers

WR Keaton Reinke St Charles North 6-foot-3, 190 pounds 2026 - Has multiple Big 10 offers. Great combination of sixe, strength and athletic abilities here.

WR Kai Owens Carmel 6-foot-2, 160 pounds 2026 - Highly productive receiver who is also still a work in progress physically, Has big time physical upside in my opinion.

WR Deyvon Hill Lomax Edwardsville 6-foot-4, 180 pounds 2026 Fluid route runner and another downstate player with impressive hands and ball skills.

WR Jamari Brown Mount Carmel 5-foot-11, 165 pounds 2026 - Speedy, high level athlete with sprinters speed and impressive ball skills and instincts. Started his high school career in Southern Indiana and is in line for a big 2025 season for the Caravan.

WR Walter Jones St Rita 5-foot-9, 160 pounds 2026 Multi year starter and impact receiver for the Mustangs. Jones is dangerous in the slot, is also a fearless route runner with speed and wiggle.


Top Uncommitted Wide Receiver Names to Watch


WR/ATH Xavier Coleman Providence Catholic 6-foot-1, 185 pounds 2026
WR Adrian Jones Washington 6-foot-1, 180 pounds 2026
WR Liam Martin Bradley 6-foot-3, 190 pounds 2026
WR Jovan Green Jr. Brother Rice 6-foot-1, 195 pounds 2026
WR Jack Lesniewicz Hinsdale Central 6-foot-1, 170 pounds 2026
WR Jalen Carter Aurora Christian 6-foot-1, 165 pounds 2026
WR/DB Tanner Glock St. Francis 6-foot-0, 180 pounds 2026
WR Camren Reed Mascoutah 6-foot-2, 170 pounds 2026
WR/DB Edward McClain Nazareth Academy 5-foot-6, 170 pounds 2026
WR/S Hunter Niklos Yorkville 6-foot-1, 170 pounds 2026
WR Oliver Thulin Downers Grove North 5-foot-10, 155 pounds 2026
WR Damareon Cawthon Carbondale 6-foot-0, 160 pounds 2026
WR Liam Martin Bradley 6-foot-4, 200 pounds 2026
WR Chase Markowicz Lincoln Way West 6-foot-2, 160 pounds 2026
WR/S Johnny Nelson OPRF 6-foot-1, 175 pounds 2026
WR Nathan Cichy Prospect 6-foot-1, 185 pounds 2026 (Harvard)
WR Jordan Bostick Palatine 5-foot-10, 170 pounds 2026
WR/TE Jack Webb Mount Carmel 6-foot-4, 225 pounds 2026
WR Matthew Osterman DePaul Prep 6-foot-0, 175 pounds 2026
WR Raymond Liggins III Simeon 5-foot-10, 165 pounds 2026
WR Marquan Brewster Fremd 6-foot-1, 170 pounds 2-026
WR Dario Milivojevic St Francis 5-foot-11, 170 pounds 2026
WR Lincoln Ijams Oswego East 6-foot-1, 180 pounds 2026
WR Blake Lehnen Glenwood 5-foot-9, 165 pounds 2026
WR Myles Ellis Homewood Flossmoor 5-foot-8, 150 pounds 2026
WR Jake Cestone Nazareth Academy 6-foot-1, 185 pounds 2026
WR Dario Milivojevic St Francis 5-foot-11, 170 pounds 2026
WR Dorian Patterson Crete-Monee 6-foot-3, 185 pounds 2026
WR Stephen Brown Marist 6-foot-7, 175 pounds 2026
WR/DB Luke Doyle Benet Academy 5-foot-11, 170 pounds 2026
WR Jacob Harvey Mt. Zion 6-foot-2, 185 pounds 2026
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My Evaluation: 2026 Lane Tech DT Daniel Howard to Iowa State

EdgyTim
Name: Daniel Howard

Position: DT/DE

High School: Chicago Lane Tech

Graduation Year: 2026

Height: 6-foot-3

Weight: 270 pounds

Recruiting Status: Committed to Iowa State. Howard was able to draw a considerable amount of recruiting offers and traffic from the likes of Cincinnati, Iowa State, Kansas State along with multiple MAC and FCS schools. Howard was a priority name for the Cyclones from very early on in the process. Howard wound up making multiple visit to Iowa State and in my eyes seemed like the leader for Howard then closed the deal on April 8th.

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My impressions of Daniel Howard:

I was able to see Daniel Howard in action last season in a 57-7 blowout loss to Morgan Park in the Chicago Public League Red conference action. Howard, who played both on the Lane Tech Champions offensive and defensive line last season was certainly an easy player to spot and watch, easily being one of the few Lane Tech players with college level size and potential despite playing in this blowout loss. Howard no question went hard on every play and never stopped grinding in this game, and his leadership abilities was on hand no question.

Evaluation of Daniel Howard:

As mentioned above the eyeball passing physical tools for Daniel Howard (listed at 6-foot-3, 270 pounds) was pretty evident and Howard also has a pretty high level of athletic skills and ability. Howard moves well for a bigger kid, has some quickness and a very good and consistent first few steps. Howard also showed to have good overall ahand usage, was able to beat double teams and was able to be a consistent source of pressure up front on the Lane Tech defensive line. Howard also is pretty college ready physically in my opinion....Howard has filled out his frame pretty well but I can see where he can still get to say 285-290 pounds for the high college level while still maintaining his overall quick feet and speed.

Room for improvement? Daniel Howard has the look and the tools to develop into a potential sleeper here for Iowa State and I get the attraction on several levels. Howard will have a chance to take several large steps forward in his development and Iowa State generally has a pretty solid track record of player development under head coach Matt Campbell. Yet my big concern here is that Howard is going to need to make a tremendous leap in competition level from playing in the Chicago Public League to the Big 12 conference. Howard will need to get stronger, quicker and greatly improve his overall fundamentals and technique on the Cyclones defensive line. Howard I feel will be a developmental guy who will need a few years of work and growth...but again the gamble here for Iowa State is no question worth it....especially if Howard can come into Iowa State ready to work and can shorten that developmental time frame.

Projected level: Rivals has ranked Daniel Howard as a low 3 star ranked player and the 19th best player in the State of Illinois Class of 2026.

EDGYTIM Recommended Initial Rankings: Daniel Howard is going to be a fun name to follow over the next few years at Iowa State, a program that has had some success recruiting the State of Illinois under Matt Campbell. Howard is a raw yet athletic big man who again has a ton of work ahead of him from a growth and development standpoint. Yet if things go well... Howard could also become a major sleeper for the Cyclones in the Class of 2026. I agree with Rivals ranking on Daniel Howard for now which has him ranked as a low to mid 3 star name and a Top 20 ranked player in the State of Illinois recruit rankings.
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Q of the Week: Who is your Sleeper Team To Watch for 2025?

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K3D88 said:
Zero research done but here are a few sleepers/team you'd prefer not to run into come playoff time:
8a: Marist
7a: DGN / Batavia
6a: Naz/ESL
5a: Rochelle
4a: St Laurence
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Wait you are telling me you don't want to run into the defending 5A and 6A champ and perennial power(s)???????
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Chicago State is moving forward with football Head Coaching search

USD24
JCHillmen said:
Looks like John Carroll and St. Norbert played there in 2013 in a D3 game.

If I am not mistaken, there was one year or several years where the Preseason Prep Bowl was moved from Soldier Field to SeatGeek (or Toyota).

A google search also tells me Fenwick played BR there in November 2010 for the Catholic championship for the right to play in the Prep Bowl.
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It's always a good day when we can get a Blue Streak mention on the Edgy board!
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Chicago State is moving forward with football Head Coaching search

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AmbroseBlack said:
Has there ever been a football game played at SeatGeek? NIU was going to play BYU there, but the game was moved to NIU.
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Looks like John Carroll and St. Norbert played there in 2013 in a D3 game.

If I am not mistaken, there was one year or several years where the Preseason Prep Bowl was moved from Soldier Field to SeatGeek (or Toyota).

A google search also tells me Fenwick played BR there in November 2010 for the Catholic championship for the right to play in the Prep Bowl.
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Q of the Week: Which IHSA Football team you need to avoid playing in 2025?

StL_Alum
cornerrat said:
All.... Edgy the Ihsa chart shows all of the teams that will be multiplied for the 2025 season. The Crusaders are on it. Having read that new waiver rule (again lol) if a team wins one postseason game in the past three seasons their enrollment is multiplied. BR won two in 2022.

I believe those 2025 enrollment numbers for the privates show only the actual figure and then in May the Ihsa comes out with the 1.65 add on and the eight preseason class breakdown. So 1322 x 1.65 gets you 2,181.30. They get the double whammy since it's an all boys school. Enrollment is doubled (1322) and then multiplied? Can you confirm? Thanks. Ratsy
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BR should be multiplied under the new rule. I would assume they remain in 7A
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