Corrected Week 2 Class 8A thru Class 4A Top 10 polls
- By ClownBaby
- The EDGY Nation
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This. CG is 56-11 with 3 championships in the last 6 seasons. They ain't doing it with smoke and mirrors.Does ESL have more database kids? Absolutely. But what does that actually measure? Typically height, weight, 40 time etc.
I'm not buying that CG or any team making it to the championship game did it with a bunch of bad athletes that aren't skilled on football. So I agree with your final sentence which to me is the point.
I still don't know what you mean by talent level. I don't know that I disagree or agree with your assessment of the talent level of CG and PR. To me, the teams tend to play very competitive games against each other so my assumption is that the talent level is similar.Considering ESL doesn’t have a hockey team, I would say Cary Grove.
I made that determination about CG and PR because I was a high school football official for many years. If you disagree about the comparison, I would be all ears.
ESL’s talent is objectively leaps and bounds above virtually anyone, anywhere. Loyola coach said himself he’s never seen speed like that. This is not a knock on Cary Grove. I thought it was awesome when they won last year.
CG clearly is talented and they all run that offense from second grade on. They execute it to perfection. It’s awesome. I just think CG is a matchup problem scheme wise for ESL more than anything. They have ESL’s number, but I don’t think they could compete nationally like ESL does. Just my opinion. Personally, I’m proud to have both teams in the IHSA.
Does ESL have more database kids? Absolutely. But what does that actually measure? Typically height, weight, 40 time etc.The overall skill level is very similar in my view, though the style of play is (of course) very different.
St. Francis only does JV.Schools like Naz, Providence, St.Francis, and Jca play a lot of freshmen on jv. Their year 1 scores don't tell you the whole story.
Freshman St Pats 40 ND 6SP but a big number on us last night. Sorry, I forget the exact final but it was a lot to a little.
Lol
Hard to argue with you since LA has beat the Griffins the past 2 years but East has beat them before so there’s that. I agree that the ESL/LA was a bigger game.
I am old & remember when Lincoln Way East was a Frosh/Soph High School for Lincoln Way(sorry I refuse to call it or original Plainfield Lincoln Way Central or Plainfield Central) & schools who would play Lincoln Way on Saturdays before they had lights would wind up at East High School lolI’m not sure what next level means in this reference? Coach Zvonar has announced his retirement date already to the district and is the only head coach LW East has ever had since inception. Too many folks to mention have turned this public program into a powerhouse program and if winning titles is the only measure of success there are a lot of failing football teams in the state. 6 appearances in the final game I believe would be enough for any program in 23 years and having never missed the playoffs with an insane .841 winning percentage? First year was with a Frosh,Soph and Junior fed team only…no senior class was in the building. The softball team upstaged them winning state without a senior class in the building…
I understand the ESL comparisons and talk as well and appreciate their program, but the Griffins have never played them, although district sister school LW Central has had a home/home competition not that long ago with both teams splitting the outcomes. Enjoy the season all!
Won over Proviso West- forgot scoreDoes anyone know how Naz freshman did?
Should be a fun one. Both teams will know a lot more about themselves after this one. I know Oswego has a good defense and a highly touted linebacker. I am not sure what the size of their DL measures on average, but their defensive front against the mammoth JC OL will determine a lot here. Oswego will need to stop the run. Doing so would force JC to put the ball in the air more this week. Assuming Oswego has some success slowing the JC run game, that will tell us a lot about the versatility of this offensive attack. If they are forced to throw, how effective will it be?Thoughts?
What kind of offense does Oswego run? Can their defensive line match up with the Hilltoppers offensive line to stop running game? Looking forward to this one!
Does Oswego have a streaming service?
Will JCA stream the game? Thx!
I'm fairly sure I heard the JCA announcers say "see you next week at Oswego". They usually do away games if they can.Thoughts?
What kind of offense does Oswego run? Can their defensive line match up with the Hilltoppers offensive line to stop running game? Looking forward to this one!
Does Oswego have a streaming service?
Will JCA stream the game? Thx!
Jenny - thank you. I'm still hoping for a good streamed picture, but your added insight would be invaluable regardless. Post away -- I'll make sure a thread has been started.Start the thread and I will update the score.
ESL will have a second big test later in the season with IMG Academy.
Also who looked like the best team to play in our state this weekend. Maybe the Hun??
A couple week ago, IMG suffered an unexpected loss to Corner Canyon, a Utah public school.
I'm not sure if, with this message, you are agreeing or disagreeing with my post. Either way, I agree with what you have written here.So often on this board, we perceive the ability of players by how they are judged by recruiters at the college level, instead of judging them as high school players. There are certainly great 3-5 star athletes that are great high school players, but there is also a certain amount that are judged based on their potential and measurables, rather than their ability to play the game at the HS level.
CG has a lot of really good HS players that run a system that plays to their strengths, and since it is different than what most teams see, week in and week out, it adds to their strength. And success breeds success., from the JR levels on up.
Junior.When is he retiring? His last son is a soph?