pjjp said:

penlight.....have you heard the freshmen number for JCA?

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No numbers but have heard it is a talented group

4Afan said:

It's always possible, but I think there are way too many questions about all the teams in the North to be so confident about how good they are.

Will the Lions have any sort of regression from last years success? Will the Packers continue to improve or will they level off? Will the Bears young talent and new acquisitions mesh together right out of the gate? Will the Vikings be really bad or just average?

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Can’t you make this argument about any division?

AFC North
ravens - Can Lamar win the big game. Will Henry show signs of wear

Steelers - Can anyone play QB? Can their O Line protect anyone?

Bengals - Who will run the ball? Can the O Line keep Burrow upright? Can their secondary cover anyone?

Browns - Great defense but?

You can make this argument about every team in the league except for KC.

Central and Wartburg both always carried massive rosters in the past too.

That's absurd. My question is how many are FR? From those FR, how many will return next year? Schools put pressure on the coaches to have a JV team in order to up the enrollment and bring more money to the school.

Dive deeper and look at last year's roster to find those statistics.

SiuCubFan8 said:

I think the North is going to be a sneaky tough division.

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It's always possible, but I think there are way too many questions about all the teams in the North to be so confident about how good they are.

Will the Lions have any sort of regression from last years success? Will the Packers continue to improve or will they level off? Will the Bears young talent and new acquisitions mesh together right out of the gate? Will the Vikings be really bad or just average?

I think the North is going to be a sneaky tough division.

stl705 said:

Not buying this talk at all… 2/4 final NFC teams game out of the Norse. Bears got a lot better this offseason.

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Final 2/4...started with 6.

If you're a gambling man look at the odds to win the Super Bowl by division. The NFC North has the 4th best odds out of 8 divisions. So yes, an average division.

I will be very interested to see if they cover the Bears pursuit of Matthew Judon this week on Hard Knocks. The version featuring the NYG offseason was really interesting to see how they went after players.

4Afan said:

The NFC North is an average division.

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Not buying this talk at all… 2/4 final NFC teams game out of the Norse. Bears got a lot better this offseason.

LTHSALUM76 said:

I think he is talking about top to bottom as far as division strength. All four teams look pretty solid.

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The NFC North is an average division.

corey90 said:

You’re a hater just admit it. Not short sighted just going by how the Bears have handled QBs in my lifetime.

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How the Bears have handled or picked QBs? There's a big difference. Name a QB who struggled with the Bears but then went on to be successful with another team, I'll wait.

You're claim is that the Bears can't develop QBs, but I say they just pick busts. Jury is still out on Fields, but Trubisky never started once he left the Bears, then there's guys like Orton, Grossman, and McNown. The best QB the Bears drafted in the last 40 years is Jim Harbaugh and that's just awful to admit. So you can call me a hater, but until there's proof the Bears drafted the right guy I'll hold off on being overly optimistic.

4Afan said:

Let's pump the brakes on best division in football.

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I think he is talking about top to bottom as far as division strength. All four teams look pretty solid.

4Afan said:

So if he succeeds it's all him, but if he fails "they messed him up"? Wow, talk about being short sighted.

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You’re a hater just admit it. Not short sighted just going by how the Bears have handled QBs in my lifetime.