SiuCubFan8 said:

I am not looking at things though any colored glasses but thanks. I said "I think the North is going to be a sneaky tough division". Huge proclamation I made ehh?
It is the NFL last year means squat except for the record books.
It is a conversation because it is the NFL. If you knew like you are acting, you would be on your island you would own.

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What does sneaky tough mean? The Lions made the NFC title game so no one is sleeping on them this year. Because of that I think they regress a little this year, they should still win the division but won't be as good. I think the Bears and Packers switch places and the Bears make the playoffs, and the Vikings won't be very good. I don't see that as "sneaky tough", just an average division.

4Afan said:

Yes, that's all we have to go on. You want to compare this year, ok. The Bengals get a healthy Burrow back, the Steelers get an upgrade at QB over Pickett, no matter who starts, the Browns get Watson back to go with a top of the league defense, and the Ravens are the Ravens. How is this even a conversation? Last year, yes last year, the AFC North had all teams finish above .500, something that hasn't happened since 1935.

Stop looking at things through Bears colored glasses and be objective.

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I am not looking at things though any colored glasses but thanks. I said, "I think the North is going to be a sneaky tough division". Huge proclamation I made ehh?
It is the NFL, last year means squat except for KC's trophy. I really don't care about what div had what record when they all don't play the same schedule. It is not apples to apples. And I don't care if Pit beat GB on a random Sunday/Monday/Thursday/Saturday during the regular season. It doesn't prove anything other than Pit was better on that given day.
It's a conversation because it's the NFL. If you knew like you are acting, you would be on your island you would own.

SiuCubFan8 said:

last year...

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Yes, that's all we have to go on. You want to compare this year, ok. The Bengals get a healthy Burrow back, the Steelers get an upgrade at QB over Pickett, no matter who starts, the Browns get Watson back to go with a top of the league defense, and the Ravens are the Ravens. How is this even a conversation? Last year, yes last year, the AFC North had all teams finish above .500, something that hasn't happened since 1935.

Stop looking at things through Bears colored glasses and be objective.

4Afan said:

the Chargers finished 5-12 and last in the AFC West, but were 2-2 against the might NFC North. Like I said the North isn't terrible, but they're not comparable to the AFC North.

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LTHSALUM76 said:

If you want to seek the better divisions vs worse divisions you might want to see what the combined records were. The Chiefs won the SB in February. Yet the AFC West as a division was 32-36. The AFC North had the best combined record at 43-25. The AFC as a whole was much stronger record-wise than the NFC. The 49ers went to the SB and had a division record of 35-33. Last year the NFC North went 35-33...same as the NFC West. As a matter of fact, the NFC North was tied for second best division records in the NFL. That doesn't sound "Average" to me.

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the Chargers finished 5-12 and last in the AFC West, but were 2-2 against the might NFC North. Like I said the North isn't terrible, but they're not comparable to the AFC North.

EdgyTim said:

Episode 2 was more meh....

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Agree. As I previously said I'll be interested to see if they cover the pursuit of Judon in tomorrow's episode. I'll always watch the show, but it's hasn't been the best the last few seasons.

4Afan said:

We'll see how it goes, but episode 1 was very meh.

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Episode 2 was more meh....

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If you want to seek the better divisions vs worse divisions you might want to see what the combined records were. The Chiefs won the SB in February. Yet the AFC West as a division was 32-36. The AFC North had the best combined record at 43-25. The AFC as a whole was much stronger record-wise than the NFC. The 49ers went to the SB and had a division record of 35-33. Last year the NFC North went 35-33...same as the NFC West. As a matter of fact, the NFC North was tied for second best division records in the NFL. That doesn't sound "Average" to me.

RoaminCatholic said:

All.... Good luck! 😁😬😁

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They can't lose...

4Afan said:

From some of the scrimmages being arranged they seem like a phone call/hand shake type deals.

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Kinda figured..

SiuCubFan8 said:

Here is a question for those that might be more in the know. How are these agreements set up between the schools? Anyone know?

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From some of the scrimmages being arranged they seem like a phone call/hand shake type deals.

ramblinman said:

Name a QB who didn't struggle with the Bears.

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Sid Luckman. LOL!!

SiuCubFan8 said:

Add in the unkown.....injuries.

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I don't think you can do that. Every team will have injuries. That is why pretty much everyone says..."barring injuries." That is a given and you can't really add an unknown. But you have a point.

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Here is a question for those that might be more in the know. How are these agreements set up between the schools? Anyone know?

SEHSSTORM1 said:

Would you agree on an away deal only if you were the coach?

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Yes

SEHSSTORM1 said:

Would you agree on an away deal only if you were the coach?

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Yes.

SiuCubFan8 said:

Because it is new, is every team doing a week 0 game? This is all going to evolve as time moves on.
Maybe schools don't mind not having the hassle of everything that will go into a week 0 scrimmage???

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Would you agree on an away deal only if you were the coach?

This week should be week 1 just like Indiana. What’s the hold up on that?

SEHSSTORM1 said:

I understand but why would anyone agree to lose an at home scrimmage (concessions, gate, etc) and not get it in return the next year. Unless some programs just don’t do that.

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Because it is new, is every team doing a week 0 game? This is all going to evolve as time moves on.
Maybe schools don't mind not having the hassle of everything that will go into a week 0 scrimmage???

SiuCubFan8 said:

Again, who says these are two year week 0 agreements?

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I understand but why would anyone agree to lose an at home scrimmage (concessions, gate, etc) and not get it in return the next year. Unless some programs just don’t do that.

4Afan said:

While I'm very interested in seeing how these scrimmages go I think you guys are over thinking it. I don't see these scrimmages having a game night atmosphere or resembling a game at all. As someone else mentioned they will most likely resemble college spring games where offenses and defenses run a set amount of plays and coaches may even discuss what they want to run. I don't think anyone is thinking about the gate, assuming they even charge, or the concessions, assuming they offer them. It's a scrimmage, nothing more.

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As someone else pointed out yes, the coaches aren't thinking about the gate/concessions obviously; but they might be thinking about dress rehearsal (same pre-game routine etc).
But you are damn sure admins are since they would have to staff everything ect.

rocketnation said:

Thanks. I started following Rochester about the time they came into the CS8 from the Cornbelt. At the time, it was by no means a unanimous view that the switch was a good decision. Initially, the Rockets were the smallest school in the conference, playing mostly 5A-6A teams. QND may have an adjustment period but playing up can be an asset in the playoffs. Doesn't QND also have a chance to reschedule different teams for non-conference next year? Quincy and R-B is a tough Week 1-Week 2 start.

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All.... The il.8 to 18.com schedule is still showing the Raiders and Blue Devils having the week one game through 2027. But I would imagine that could be changed . With QND now playing in the CS8 (with their small enrollment) the benefit to load up in preparation of possible postseason play is already built in. Change those first two weeks. Not cream puffs though. Ratsy

While I'm very interested in seeing how these scrimmages go I think you guys are over thinking it. I don't see these scrimmages having a game night atmosphere or resembling a game at all. As someone else mentioned they will most likely resemble college spring games where offenses and defenses run a set amount of plays and coaches may even discuss what they want to run. I don't think anyone is thinking about the gate, assuming they even charge, or the concessions, assuming they offer them. It's a scrimmage, nothing more.