Higher seeds should get the home game.
- By Alexander32
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"The only difference is putting the conference champs ahead of the rest, but the criteria doesn't change."Per the CFP website.
"The committee will rank 25 teams. The five highest-ranked conference champions and the next seven highest-ranked teams will be in the playoff."
Yes, they only SEED 12 teams only because there are only 12 teams in the playoffs, but they use the same criteria to RANK all 25 teams, not a separate set of data points for the top 12 and another set of data points for the remaining 13 teams.
Here is the source. Please read and let me know where the committee uses a different criteria when SEEDING 1-12 versus RANKING the top 25. The only difference is putting the conference champs ahead of the rest, but the criteria doesn't change.
Yes, it is essentially what happens now, so why are you using a tournament that does something similar in terms of seeding as an example?!
Correct, there is a difference when ranking vs. seeding the top 12, but the only difference is that the top 4 RANKED conference champs get the top 4 SEEDS and the 5th RANKED conference champ gets into the playoffs regardless of their rank. The criteria used to determine their RANK does not change to determine their SEED. It's only based on whether they win their conference.
Doing what you imply would be like using KenPom as the exclusive source to select the NCAA tournament teams and then the committee would exclusively determine the teams seeding once in the tourney and that's not what happens. The committee uses the same criteria when determining if the 4th ranked A10 team should get into the tournament over the 4th ranked SoCon team as they do to determine whether that team is worthy of a 10 seed or a 12 seed.
That sentence, which you wrote, demonstrates there is a difference between the criteria used for ranking the teams and the criteria used for seeding the teams.
If two different sets of criteria were not used for the two tasks, then the 12 teams in the playoff would always be the top 12 ranked teams, and they would always be seeded in the exact same order they were ranked.
Why is it so hard for you to concede that point? Conceding that point does not mean your whole argument becomes invalid. The different playoff structures exist because different people, and different groups of people (organizations), value the trade-offs that are involved differently. That is a matter of personal preference. It doesn't universally make one playoff structure right, and all others wrong.
Not acknowledging when another person has made a perfectly logical point merely diminishes your credibility, because others begin believing you are not a reasonable person.
As one small point in his overall argument, jha618 was trying to demonstrate that some organizations do in fact sometimes use different criteria for seeding teams than the criteria they used for selecting teams for a playoff. That fact seems to be indisputable, and yet you continue to dispute it.