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Quarterfinals games

Saturday is playoff game day, that's something I'm fine with. I like the Saturday afternoon contests...

For you, maybe I'd start by asking those in the Chicagoland area first. Shortest distance between any two schools class 1A-4A is St. Laurence @ DePaul, being played Sat @ 1pm...??? How many Chicago area folks would complain about Friday games if having to fight traffic at rush times to make an early Friday start? I'd have to guess it's about equal to the people who'd be complaining about Friday night kickoffs for a 5 hour round trip in the first 3 rounds...

1A
Galena ---> LeRoy : 227 miles
Gibson City ---> Lena-Winslow : 205 mi
Casey-Westfield ---> Althoff : 137 mi
Camp Point ---> Hardin : 79 mi

2A
Farmington ---> Dwight : 113 mi
Bismarck ---> Palos Heights : 116 mi
Pana ---> Johnston City : 126 mi
Quincy ---> Morao : 160 mi

3A
Lombard ---> Princeton : 104 mi
Wilmington ---> Pecatonica : 144 mi
Nashville ---> Tolono : 154 mi
Benton ---> Monticello : 174 mi

4A
St. Laurence ---> DePaul : 22 mi
Dixon ---> Coal City : 93 mi
Mt. Zion ---> Breese : 110 mi
Normal ---> Cahokia : 122 mi
Well that answers my question! StL and DePaul definitely should be Friday night. I could argue Camp Point game as well
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EDGYTIM in the Daily Herald: The Year of the Quarterback

MOB also declared in the ST that "It's the Year of the Quarterback," which has been clear to everyone since August. This is not to draw an artificial divide between Chicago and the rest of the state but rather to acknowledge that, when it comes to quarterbacks, Illinois has a redundance of riches.

Higher seeds should get the home game.

The parity that exists in HS football is not close to what it is in the NFL. Thats not even debatable and no one should ever try and make that argument.

I am not using, or even suggesting, my eye test can say any one team is the best. Thats why I suggested using some combination of composite computer rankings, polls etc. Even if that would just be for the top 4 or 8 to ensure those matchup dont occur before the semi or quarterfinal rounds. With the goal being prioritizing accuracy of the seedings vs simply transparency of an imprecise system.
You are assuming the goal should be "prioritizing accuracy of the seedings". It also seems you are measuring accuracy in terms of determining which teams are the best. However, there are trade-offs in life.

While accuracy and excellence are commendable goals, so are objectivity and transparency; particularly when administering a program that should promote fairness. What if rather than prioritizing those teams that are better, the seeding system is meant to reward those teams that had better regular seasons in relation to their peers. I have no doubt that Wheaton-Warrenville South (a 5-4 team that finished in fourth place in the DuKane Conference) is a better team than Whitney Young (a 9-0 team that finished in first place in its conference). But I do have doubts that Wheaton should have been given a better seed than Young in the 7A playoffs. Young had a remarkable season relative to their peers, and giving them a 1 seed allowed them the opportunity to win a first-round playoff game. Wheaton-Warrenville South had an average regular season in comparison to their peers. If teams are allowed into the playoffs based on the relative success of their regular seasons, is it not consistent to then also seed them on the same basis?

There is also some value to having excellent games in each round of the playoffs, as the current system allows, rather than saving all the best games for the last two weeks of the playoffs.

With all that having been said, I am rather partial to the pursuit of excellence and then rewarding that excellence. Clearly CalPreps or Massey or several other systems would do a better job of measuring excellence/ability than the current system of seeding. An objectively designed (and transparent) study would quickly prove that to be the case.

I personally find the trade-offs in this discussion to be quite balanced, and consequently am comfortable with any of the seeding methods that have been discussed in this thread. If pressed, I would fall back on the principle that frequently the best solution is one that melds the best of the competing alternatives. As has been offered by others in this thread already, I would seed the top eight teams based on a computer rating (after having studied the various computer systems for accuracy). The remaining 24 teams would be seeded using the current method.

The main point of this message, though, is to suggest no agreement will be found in this thread (though it is fun to discuss). The reason for that is the fact that there are trade-offs, and each of us will evaluate those trade-offs differently and subjectively. Under those circumstances the best course is to have a vote, and that is what the IHSA (a member driven organization) is designed to do. So far, that process has resulted in the system we currently have. If, at some future point in time, enough members become dissatisfied with the current system, they will vote it out and a new system will be implemented.

Friday night quarterfinal games

REJOICE!!! I’m leaning towards attending
Is the Stevenson at LWE game the better choice ? Where should i go Friday ?
I’m also hitting a game Saturday, still undecided ...
Would highly recommend Lake Forest vs Geneva (@ LF). Should be great game, great atmosphere, good seating/view(s), very good concession/food. Depending on your location, an easy commute, just off Tri-State north. I would anticipate a very close, very competitive game.

Saturday night, I like Saint Rita vs Quincy. Western Avenue rough and tumble! Good luck, you'll have fun.

Higher seeds should get the home game.

Even more reason to use calpreps. In a game of minor differences where home field gives +3 it should be more essential to seed the teams by who's better to ensure the best teams make it to the conference championships.

But you're getting closer. Parity exists in HS football too. Sure you look at Loyola and say they're the best based on your eye test, but their record says otherwise and so does their opponent's this week. Neither one with their losses had an argument coming in of being the best.
The parity that exists in HS football is not close to what it is in the NFL. Thats not even debatable and no one should ever try and make that argument.

I am not using, or even suggesting, my eye test can say any one team is the best. Thats why I suggested using some combination of composite computer rankings, polls etc. Even if that would just be for the top 4 or 8 to ensure those matchup dont occur before the semi or quarterfinal rounds. With the goal being prioritizing accuracy of the seedings vs simply transparency of an imprecise system.

West Aurora @ MS

WA would have been average team in Southwest Prairie at best. Left to go win in a terrible football conference and did what they hoped. Had a great season but most of SP conference would have rolled that whole conference as well.
West Aurora defeated Huntley 31-21 in the 8A playoffs. Huntley was an average team in the Fox Valley Conference. The Fox Valley Conference is a better conference than the Southwest Prairie West Conference. It is therefore logical to conclude West Aurora would have probably been better than an average team in the Southwest Prairie West Conference. They probably would have finished third behind Oswego and Minooka.

West Aurora also convincingly beat Glenbard East 45-20. Glenbard East, in turn, defeated Willowbrook, a team comparable to Plainfield South (both of them having lost close games to Downers Grove South). Willowbrook finished in second place in the West Suburban Gold Conference and also defeated NIC-10 Conference champion Hononegah (unbeaten at the time) in the playoffs. West Aurora would have easily won the Southwest Prairie East Conference.
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Friday night quarterfinal games

REJOICE!!! I’m leaning towards attending Naperville Central at Lyons Township, does anyone have any intel on this one? I saw LT once at DGN earlier this year and they look great he part. No studs, just a well coached group of guys that play very good team football
Is the Stevenson at LWE game the better choice ? Where should i go Friday ?
I’m also hitting a game Saturday, still undecided on that too, but leaning DGN at Batavia, I’ve never been to a game at Batavia
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CS8 Predictions-Week 8

RocketNation,

I understand the position you have taken with respect to the weekly Central State Eight thread, admire the position you have taken, and respect you for sticking with it. However, I do also want to let you know how much you and your views have been missed... at least by me.

I hope you feel free to occasionally comment on other topics that arise on this board, and, if it is not too much work, might consider resuming the weekly thread next year.

All the best,
Pierre Garesche / Alexander32

Bears

The stadium really makes no difference to me whether they do it or not.

In fact I am at the point I wish the Bears and WS would leave the city.

I rather travel to GB now and watch real football.
I have been saying for years that I wished Chicago had an AFC team to compete with the Bears. But you know the McCaskeys would fight that to the death. The losing is one thing. That is bad enough. But the way this ownership craps on the fans is criminal. They do NOT care about winning. I, and a lot of Bears fans would be OK with down years if we felt like the organization was at least trying to win. These people are clueless and an embarrassment.

I just wish the fans would stop showing up right now in numbers that can't be ignored. I really don't know what the season ticketholders think. They just keep on buying this garbage year after year. Maybe they think the minute they give up the tickets the team will get good all of a sudden and they will miss out. I don't know. But to me it is such a waste of money and more importantly, it's a waste of time.

But, this is so typical of Chicago as a whole.

Maine South @ Loyola

Get to Meiers early ! I think this is a defensive battle for sure and defense wins you Championships. I like the Rambler chances in this one. But Main South is Main South and I am sure Coach Inserra will have the Hawks ready to go. The fact MS made a change mid-year in the QB must mean they really like him. It has been a while since these two programs have played a game like this and glad to see it happen - given the great games of the past. For either team not a walk in the park.
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