15th overall and currently a prince?! I'll take it!

For those in the arena, week 10 results:

Kevin JCHS 81 said:

I'm not good at supplying links, just search under Peoria HS on Hudl.

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Okay I'm going to make an attempt to post the link.

JCA at Peoria

WARNING: some of these links for Hudl, DO NOT ACTUALLY MEAN the game is streaming there.

ignazio said:

SCN @ MC Sat 11/9 5pm
If the Caravan somehow pull this off, it'll be by 7 points.

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No comment.

Yea…. I just didn’t copy and paste the late ones into my original tables.

4Afan said:

Please stop citing the tourney. The two are not remotely the same. You have automatic qualifiers, conference champs in this instance, and then at large teams are chosen based on a multitude of criteria. So who are your at large teams for high school football? 5 win teams? Is it based on power rankings or just wins?

The formula to get into the NCAA tourney and seeding them are relatively the same(SOS, good wins vs. bad losses, computer rankings, etc.). You're talking about two different systems to qualify for the playoffs in football and then another entirely to seed them once in the playoffs.

If you go that route teams like Provi get screwed; sorry you didn't have 5 wins so you don't get in, but if you had made it in then using our power ranking system you likely would have been a top 20 team in your class.

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The first sentence of my post, which you quoted, was what I suggested makes no mention of changing how playoff teams qualify. Then you proceed to go on a tangent about how I propose to modify the qualification process.

Ihsa has automatic qualifiers, just like ncaat. They both have "at large" teams. So you are wrong in that regard. It is not remotely unique to have a system to qualify for a tournament, then a separate, or additinal system to seed them. The ncaat in both baseball and bball is a great example of that.

Your provi example is beyond silly. No one with a losing record got screwed by being left out of the playoffs. Additionally, as stated before, any "power ranking" would be for the top 4 or 8 teams. Not 20. Are you even attempting to read or comprehend what I'm saying? Because you are constantly bringing up scenarios ive explicitly said I'm not even attempting to change or address.

Doesn't look like the late entries were accounted for. There is someone with 32 points for 8A. I was also one of the late entrants not accounted for. On the bracket leaderboard page if you go to page 2 and scroll to the bottom it shows late entrants.

jha618 said:

What I suggested had nothing to do with changing how teams qualify for the playoffs so I am unsure how any deeper issue would arise. 5 wins get you. Once in, you are seeded accordingly. Its no different than the ncaa tournament where you have automatic qualifiers and then teams are seeded appropriately based on the strength of the wins they had during the reg season.

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Please stop citing the tourney. The two are not remotely the same. You have automatic qualifiers, conference champs in this instance, and then at large teams are chosen based on a multitude of criteria. So who are your at large teams for high school football? 5 win teams? Is it based on power rankings or just wins?

The formula to get into the NCAA tourney and seeding them are relatively the same(SOS, good wins vs. bad losses, computer rankings, etc.). You're talking about two different systems to qualify for the playoffs in football and then another entirely to seed them once in the playoffs.

If you go that route teams like Provi get screwed; sorry you didn't have 5 wins so you don't get in, but if you had made it in then using our power ranking system you likely would have been a top 20 team in your class.

gobears25 said:

If you use power rankings to seed the playoffs you'd have to change to qualifications too. Just a guess but I'm willing to bet that some schools that just missed the playoffs would be "power ranked" above some of this years qualifiers on any decent system. You can't say record gets you in but then it doesn't matter and now we're seeding on power ranking without running into deeper issues.

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What I suggested had nothing to do with changing how teams qualify for the playoffs so I am unsure how any deeper issue would arise. 5 wins get you. Once in, you are seeded accordingly. Its no different than the ncaa tournament where you have automatic qualifiers and then teams are seeded appropriately based on the strength of the wins they had during the reg season.

MWittman said:

Former Notre Dame coach Gerry Faust and former USC coach John Robinson died today.

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I was a big Rams fan growing up. RIP Coach Robinson. And of course Coach Faust.

jha618 said:

The parity that exists in HS football is not close to what it is in the NFL. Thats not even debatable and no one should ever try and make that argument.

I am not using, or even suggesting, my eye test can say any one team is the best. Thats why I suggested using some combination of composite computer rankings, polls etc. Even if that would just be for the top 4 or 8 to ensure those matchup dont occur before the semi or quarterfinal rounds. With the goal being prioritizing accuracy of the seedings vs simply transparency of an imprecise system.

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If you use power rankings to seed the playoffs you'd have to change to qualifications too. Just a guess but I'm willing to bet that some schools that just missed the playoffs would be "power ranked" above some of this years qualifiers on any decent system. You can't say record gets you in but then it doesn't matter and now we're seeding on power ranking without running into deeper issues.

McEvergreen said:

Skip this one. They host LA next week and that's a must see.

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I’m not counting out MS beating Loyola.

Calpreps has it 35-14 and Massey has it 42-14, both for LWE.

crusader_of_90 said:

A bunch of studs and possible POY guys listed there!

If I may introduce one from the south, Althoff sophomore signal caller, Jayden Ellington's stats:
Passing Ratio (62+ Att)

Name	School	Comp	Att	Yds	TDs	Ints	Ratio
Jayden Ellington	Althoff	101	141	1753	30	2	167.590

He shares the offensive responsibilities with Dierre Hill, who himself is having a fine season too.

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You certainly can include the South but also understand this was for the Daily Herald area only....

Oddy said:

Do you think so? I was thinking of making the 80 minute drive to Sycamore, but LF is just ten minutes away.

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They seem pretty evenly matched. I was expecting Geneva v Libertyville honestly but good for LF. Two big passing games head to head should be fun.

Oddy said:

Do you think so? I was thinking of making the 80 minute drive to Sycamore, but LF is just ten minutes away.

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Libertyville only 2 loses and a win over 8a semifinalist warren

greatgig13 said:

Geneva v Lake Forest should be a great game.

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Do you think so? I was thinking of making the 80 minute drive to Sycamore, but LF is just ten minutes away.

IMO this game won't be close. IMO none of LWE's games will be close.

Geneva v Lake Forest should be a great game.

PowerI66 said:

There are levels to this. I'm not saying Stevenson is a bad team, they just aren't on the same level. The one major passing attack they faced this season was Libertyville, and they gave up 43 points.

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Interesting how is Stevenson passing or are they more of a running offense.

There are levels to this. I'm not saying Stevenson is a bad team, they just aren't on the same level. The one major passing attack they faced this season was Libertyville, and they gave up 43 points.