What did we learn week 3!?!

[LakeCtyNewt]

So far so good right? Here we go for week 3.

1 - That we are 1/3 the way through the season and still don’t know too much
2 - That if Loyola is really in 7A there will be much rejoicing by 8A schools
3 - That two once proud programs - Stevenson and Nazareth are 0-3 and don’t look to have a path to 5 wins
4 - That Wauconda was supposed to be in a rebuilding year
5 - That Cary Grove is back to doing Cary Grove things that the rest of 6A won’t like
6 - That a Batavia Wheaton N rematch would be nice thank you.
7 - That despite the outcomes in some cases Illinois HS football plays just fine vs elite out of state teams.
8 - That Barrington has righted the ship for now in the MSL West Conf games await.
9 - That all GBW does is win, but we already knew that.
10 - That very quietly Libertyville is 3-0 and could emerge as the challenger to Warren in the NSC.

That’s it, on to week 4.

 

[corey90]

So far so good right? Here we go for week 3.

1 - That we are 1/3 the way through the season and still don’t know too much
2 - That if Loyola is really in 7A there will be much rejoicing by 8A schools
3 - That two once proud programs - Stevenson and Nazareth are 0-3 and don’t look to have a path to 5 wins
4 - That Wauconda was supposed to be in a rebuilding year
5 - That Cary Grove is back to doing Cary Grove things that the rest of 6A won’t like
6 - That a Batavia Wheaton N rematch would be nice thank you.
7 - That despite the outcomes in some cases Illinois HS football plays just fine vs elite out of state teams.
8 - That Barrington has righted the ship for now in the MSL West Conf games await.
9 - That all GBW does is win, but we already knew that.
10 - That very quietly Libertyville is 3-0 and could emerge as the challenger to Warren in the NSC.

That’s it, on to week 4.

Loyola should be in 8A. Their team is as deep as any 8A team. IMO they are the best team in the state. I feel like the reason they were moved down to 7A was a loop hole in the IHSA rules and not playing in 2020 due to covid shut down. I am not saying they wouldn’t win 8A I think they would but it might be more of a challenge once they got to the playoffs? I maybe wrong, what does everyone else think?

 

[greatgig13]

Loyola should be in 8A. Their team is as deep as any 8A team. IMO they are the best team in the state. I feel like the reason they were moved down to 7A was a loop hole in the IHSA rules and not playing in 2020 due to covid shut down. I am not saying they wouldn’t win 8A I think they would but it might be more of a challenge once they got to the playoffs? I maybe wrong, what does everyone else think?

Do that and let ESL take their 7A spot. Stay away from 6A!

 

[crusader_of_90]

That the woman overheard on the Flyer broadcast knows football and should be calling their games.

That LB3 is the leader for POY so far.

 

[cornerrat]

All.... That bad things happen when you haven't learned to tackle. But it can and will be fixed. Ratsy

 

[Bowie50]

Loyola should be in 8A. Their team is as deep as any 8A team. IMO they are the best team in the state. I feel like the reason they were moved down to 7A was a loop hole in the IHSA rules and not playing in 2020 due to covid shut down. I am not saying they wouldn’t win 8A I think they would but it might be more of a challenge once they got to the playoffs? I maybe wrong, what does everyone else think?

I think the question is: can they petition up? If so, did / will they? I have no idea. Anyone?

 

[cornerrat]

I think the question is: can they petition up? If so, did / will they? I have no idea. Anyone?

All.... The paperwork has to be in to the Ihsa by September 1st. Ratsy

 

[Bowie50]

All.... The paperwork has to be in to the Ihsa by September 1st. Ratsy

I assume they are staying put if we haven’t heard anything…right?

 

[LHSTigers94]

I assume they are staying put if we haven’t heard anything…right?

The Petition was put in for 6A. I believe there was a post about it on here somewhere.

 

[cornerrat]

I think the question is: can they petition up? If so, did / will they? I have no idea. Anyone?

I assume they are staying put if we haven’t heard anything…right?

All.... Agreed. Keeping something like that quiet in Rambler country would be difficult. Someone would know, talk, and confirm it. Ratsy

 

[Cross Bones]

On one hand Loyola should be 8A and I wish they were (along with Rice). On the other hand I look forward to seeing the havoc they wreak in 7A.

 

[Bowie50]

The Petition was put in for 6A. I believe there was a post about it on here somewhere.

We are talking about Loyola petitioning up to 8A

 

[LHSTigers94]

We are talking about Loyola petitioning up to 8A

My mistake

 

[Bowie50]

My mistake

No worries. We deviated from Newt’s weekly.

 

[dapiech]

Keep sleeping on Neuqua Valley.

 

[USD24]

Keep sleeping on Neuqua Valley.

Who’s sleeping on them? They are ranked #13. And how does this fit into “What did we learn?”

 

[McCaravan]

Was Loyola is really good mentioned already? If not, Loyola is really good. Also the young Caravan are fun to watch, will be a great game this week at Marist.

 

[dapiech]

Who’s sleeping on them? They are ranked #13. And how does this fit into “What did we learn?”

Maybe that we've learned that they're better than their #13 ranking (beating 2 ranked teams) while Warren, LWE, NC have lost games and are ranked higher. Not to mention St. Rita with 2 losses.

 

[corey90]

Maybe that we've learned that they're better than their #13 ranking (beating 2 ranked teams) while Warren, LWE, NC have lost games and are ranked higher. Not to mention St. Rita with 2 losses.

Don’t think for a minute LWE is a cupcake. Losing away by a field goal away. East will only get better and better as the season progresses. East is young and hungry. Very well coached and dangerous. Don’t get a head of yourself be happy your #13. All this will correct itself by playoff time. 😊

 

[Wittymoniker1]

Well, I certainly hope LA petitions up to 8A. Now, let's do this!

 

[PowerI66]

Maybe that we've learned that they're better than their #13 ranking (beating 2 ranked teams) while Warren, LWE, NC have lost games and are ranked higher. Not to mention St. Rita with 2 losses.

Are you saying NV would beat those three teams as well as they 2 teams they lost to?

 

[BornNRazed]

Marist just rolls on. Not sure they win a game in the Blue but I watch them take the field. Their O line looks like a college team. D is faster than last year but much smaller. IMO all falls on their willingness to run the football and control the clock.

 

[NapervilleBuck]

Are you saying NV would beat those three teams as well as they 2 teams they lost to?

We’ll find out on 9/24 with NC.

 

[dapiech]

Don’t think for a minute LWE is a cupcake. Losing away by a field goal away. East will only get better and better as the season progresses. East is young and hungry. Very well coached and dangerous. Don’t get a head of yourself be happy your #13. All this will correct itself by playoff time. 😊

Are you saying NV would beat those three teams as well as they 2 teams they lost to?

Yes, since they already beat a top 10 ranked team St. Mary's from STL who had a receiver that holds 30+ offers and a team that will most likely win state in Missouri. MO is a state that is almost identical in talent level as IL. But as NapervilleBuck said, we will find out for sure when they play NC in 2 weeks.

 

[Fioras]

That Oswego East might have something going.. shhh don't tell anyone

 

[missingwalter]

That Oswego East might have something going.. shhh don't tell anyone

I agree, they are 3-0 and appear to be getting less respect now than at the beginning of the season.

 

[ClownBaby]

Keep sleeping on Neuqua Valley.

NV always has a ton of talent and disappoints but this year may be different since the QB is a special player, I don’t know if he is a big time college player but he is one of the best HS QBs I’ve seen in a long time. The 99 yard TD pass was perfectly thrown pass into really good coverage and his 70 yard TD was a play where WWS misaligned and he saw it and took the snap and ran right to weak spot on his own. Most QBs at the HS don’t read defenses and process things like him, kid is a special player so enjoy it @NapervilleBuck

 

[missingwalter]

NV always has a ton of talent and disappoints but this year may be different since the QB is a special player, I don’t know if he is a big time college player but he is one of the best HS QBs I’ve seen in a long time. The 99 yard TD pass was perfectly thrown pass into really good coverage and his 70 yard TD was a play where WWS misaligned and he saw it and took the snap and ran right to weak spot on his own. Most QBs at the HS don’t read defenses and process things like him, kid is a special player so enjoy it @NapervilleBuck

He's slippery too, breaks a lot of tackles.

 

[ClownBaby]

He's slippery too, breaks a lot of tackles.

That too, I was really impressed by him he will a be total nightmare for teams this year but next year when he is a SR oh my.

 

[missingwalter]

Oswego had him dead to rights a couple times and both times he made game-changing plays.

 

[atrain97]

This is by far the most explosive Cary Grove Team, maybe ever, but at least since the 1st State Championship team of 2009. 7 plays, 4 TD? against the 8th ranked team in the 6A. I've never seen anything like it.

 

[TigerforFlyers]

That Illinois High School Football is a lot more competitive nationally than some on this board had been willing to believe. Those same folks and some programs can really benefit from a lesson or two in courage.

 

[NapervilleBuck]

NV always has a ton of talent and disappoints but this year may be different since the QB is a special player, I don’t know if he is a big time college player but he is one of the best HS QBs I’ve seen in a long time. The 99 yard TD pass was perfectly thrown pass into really good coverage and his 70 yard TD was a play where WWS misaligned and he saw it and took the snap and ran right to weak spot on his own. Most QBs at the HS don’t read defenses and process things like him, kid is a special player so enjoy it @NapervilleBuck

Spot on. I’ve been watching NV since it opened. We’ve had some decent QBs but this current run of Rutter, Gronowski, and now Mennecke is pretty special. All 3 have different skill sets.

Rutter had a great arm and tremendous touch.

Gronowski was a field general. He did whatever the team needed. Deep balls, out patterns, running the RPO and taking off. Special talent and tough as a $2 steak.

Mennecke has “it”. Can’t describe “it” but he has it in spades. Deadly accurate with a lively arm, a feel for the game that is almost eerie. Like @ClownBaby said, that run against WWS was beautiful. He fooled the entire D as well as the entire crowd watching the game. Fast snap and he went right over the C and was gone.

 

[mchsalumni]

MO is a state that is almost identical in talent level as IL.

Yeah, no. This is wildly inaccurate.

 

[Gene K.]

That too, I was really impressed by him he will a be total nightmare for teams this year but next year when he is a SR oh my.

Any chance Montini can "recruit" him? LOL

 

[dapiech]

Yeah, no. This is wildly inaccurate.

Both states have 30 players in the rivals list of recruits for 2022. That was my basis for the comment. Why do you think its inaccurate?

 

[missingwalter]

Any chance Montini can "recruit" him? LOL

South Naperville is leaving the lights on.

 

[brucealmighy]

Both states have 30 players in the rivals list of recruits for 2022. That was my basis for the comment. Why do you think its inaccurate?

Look at 2019-21. Top 10s are pretty similar with Big Ten heavyweights, SEC and ND. Missouri talent drops off pretty quick and averages about 40 D1 players a year. Illinois typically has about 75 D1 a year.

 

[godfthr53]

South Naperville is leaving the lights on.

There will be a power outage soon. Hope you have a generator

 

[dapiech]

Look at 2019-21. Top 10s are pretty similar with Big Ten heavyweights, SEC and ND. Missouri talent drops off pretty quick and averages about 40 D1 players a year. Illinois typically has about 75 D1 a year.

I wasnt aware of that, but good point. At least for 2022, things seem to be even though. I still think NV beat as quality a team as any in the top 10 in IL.