It’s the same 5A that had 3 of the 4 semifinalists from the CCL/ESCC. Seems pretty sophisticated.
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I see you give this answer often, but it's not generally reasoning you would accept from another school as to why they don't petition up. Kind of a silly answer.
Naz has definitely proven how great of a program they are. This sums it up right here. Kudos to Nazareth.
I have no idea about future changes to the CCL-ESCC League, but hoping Rita and Naz stay in the Green (or whatever color) and compete for years to come. It will obviously never match the MC/SR rivalry, but it can become a very good one.
You and Jenny both pointed that out. I'm fairly certain the poster meant to write "Brother Rice beat Mt Carmel", not Loyola.
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If they can get to 5 wins next year, IC will be a big problem in 2A (or 3A if they petition up)
They lost to St Laurence in the quarterfinals last year and went 4-5 this year so they lost their multiplier which will bring them to 2A. (If they can get in with their rigorous schedule)
LA, MC, BR, SR, JCA, PC, Naz, and Marist losing to public schools in the playoffs is weak relative to this argument I am in with Alexander32? LOL!
Plus, do your homework. The 2018 Notre Dame loss to by 7 pts to Cary Grove came in the 6A semis the year that CG won the title. ND gave CG their toughest game of the playoffs that year by far. The 2019 ND 10 pt loss to LWE in round two of the 2019 playoffs was in 8A. It was the closest playoff game LWE played that year on their way to an 8A title and the second highest points scored against LWE in 14 games that year. Ignatius was included in 2022 because their loss to Prairie Ridge came in the 6A semifinals. Had it been a first round loss I probably would not have included them.
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2nd round knockout in 5A the past two years (last year against a public school).
SHG wouldn't have even been a top 5 school in 3A this past season.
I am pretty sure that if they were to win a 3A title next year that it would be a pretty remarkable turnaround from where they are at right now.
Yes, 2014 SHG in 3A would have been insanity. This isn't 2014 SHG.
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I meant from the teams a few years ago. They were consistently title contenders and now they are hoping just to get to 5 wins?
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Like, if only, there was like, a way to like, classify playoff participants, by like, some form of like, competitive equity instead of like, how many kids were enrolled like two years ago.
Its not sitting in the lower class, that is where the IHSA has put them based on enrollment or success factor
Baseball is a different story. Any given day and they lost to a powerhouse program in Mt. Carmel. It happens, but they were the best team in the state that got upset in the sectional final.
It wasn't the AD, it was the D coordinator that cried on social media last year.
We lose a TON but there are a lot of good young guys who await their turn. The Factory (Our Lady Queen of Peace) will continue to stock the shelves.
His point was made and was to be taken and interpreted much like biblical principles and parables; ya don’t make them walk on 4s.
There aren’t many things in life worse than someone benefitting from a competitive advantage and then boasting of the results of said advantage, while at the same time denying the advantage. Even worse, comparing themselves to those without the advantage. I’m sure if you look closely, you will derive the parable in these statements.
Unless the "advantage" is a red herring and expedient scape goat used to assuage hurt feelings and justify a lack of excellence.
Sorry but
Rice didn’t beat Loyola but played them tough and had a stacked team — at least four real division 1 starters on defense, guys who will start in the Big 10— that would have gone undefeated in most every public conference this year,
Marist should always play in the highest class. It routinely has more talent than the rest of the CCL, including Loyola, which it should have beaten this year, if its coaches don’t always maximize it.
And consider that Fenwick would indeed be playing MC in 7A final had the refs not screwed them obscenely at DGN, which was throwing all over the field, scoring 38 PPG against the largest public schools, but could barely manage a first down without proactive, egregious ref assistance against the Friars.
Important to note, as DGN routed everyone in its big suburban public school conference — including 8A finalist York at York.
It would have been undefeated and the top 7A seed had its star QB not gotten hurt for half of the LT game.
What would DGN’s record have been this year against Fenwick’s schedule?
All of the top tier of Catholic schools should play in 7 or 8A and their players welcome the challenge.
I'm not diametrically opposed to that from a competitive standpoint, but the problem lies in defining top tier and when it's defined.
I think it's pretty easy to say that, year in and year out, LA and MC are top tier private schools. Marist? Sure. What about Fenwick, though? This year, they definitely belong in 7A and probably in the last few years also. Ignatius? Um, not so much. Notre Dame? Some years yes, most years no.
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the back and forth here is a fascinating read
It kind seems that the main argument against the privates is more about getting their team a win r
There is only 1 state champion per weight class and the title should carry respect
Who is going to respect a team that wins a state title after they move all of the CCL teams out of their division
A true competitor wants to be the be and beat the best and not handed a participation trophy
It kind seems that the main argument against the privates is more about getting their team a win r
There is only 1 state champion per weight class and the title should carry respect
Who is going to respect a team that wins a state title after they move all of the CCL teams out of their division
A true competitor wants to be the be and beat the best and not handed a participation trophy
Yes, your empathy is on FULL display. That explains a lot. To you there probably is no advantage to men/boys competing in women/girls sports either. Say less, my friend, say less……
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