New IHSA bylaw proposal seeks to eliminate Prep Bowl
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I say expand the concept....
Southland Bowl (JC/PC/MaCath/Mac v SWP, SWCC, Southland, SSC)
West Bowl (ACC, MA, STF, Mon, Naz, Ben, ICC v U8, WSG/S, DVC, Dukane)
Northern Bowl (Boylan, MCC, Ed, Via, CC, NND v FVC, Northern Lake, Kish, NoSL, MSL, CSL)
St Lawrence, Loyola and Fenwick could go either way given their old school CCL pedigree but being situated in suburbs.
Southland Bowl (JC/PC/MaCath/Mac v SWP, SWCC, Southland, SSC)
West Bowl (ACC, MA, STF, Mon, Naz, Ben, ICC v U8, WSG/S, DVC, Dukane)
Northern Bowl (Boylan, MCC, Ed, Via, CC, NND v FVC, Northern Lake, Kish, NoSL, MSL, CSL)
St Lawrence, Loyola and Fenwick could go either way given their old school CCL pedigree but being situated in suburbs.
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I was thinking along these lines but some sort of post season where the teams that traditionally get pummeled for 8 or 9 weeks straight can get in a couple games where they're competitive. Not gonna name any names but we know.
Great to hear, coach.
Can you share with us what the rules are for CPL schools participating? How they "qualify", specifically schools from illini divisions compared to others.
Not sure how it would appear from my post that I’m in favor of dropping the Prep Bowl because it gives a competitive advantage to anyone. I am not.
I agree with keeping the Prep Bowl.
I simply pointed out the fact that the CPL should be much better in the playoffs every season if the Prep Bowl actually did render a competitive advantage for the CPL. History & this season once again prove that the CPL gains zero advantage from the Prep Bowl. I also pointed out that the best and the brightest of the CCL are not the best and the brightest because of the Prep Bowl — these consistently successful schools rarely participate in the Prep Bowl anyway. They are the best and the brightest for many other reasons. The extra Prep Bowl prep is not one.
The Sycamore AD will see first hand this year for two rounds of the Playoffs that the CPL cannot compete with Sycamore football. The Prep Bowl will not have given either of their two opponents any competitive advantage whatsoever. This will prove that the ADs point is not valid. If the AD did have a valid point, we should see the opposite of the CPL performance every year. The Prep Bowl cannot benefit one participating league and then not benefit the other participating league at the same time. That logic is not sound.
I’m not a “Sycamore boy” - take one look at my posting history and it’ll be easy to figure out where my allegiance lies. If you have neither the time, nor the inclination… I am an alum, I root for, and I have coached dozens of young men over the past 30 years at the youth level who have gone on to play for the Fenwick Friars.
They do it in other states is Illinois that weak? Here in Tennessee we had major flooding & some schools played 4 games in 12 days to make up postponed games. Florida same with hurricanes. Ofc Illlinois didn’t play a season due to Covid & that spring crap was a joke.
Its not right in those states either. 20 years ago, IHSA eliminated midweek playoff games due to proven high injurty rates. Keep prep bowl, but ensure player safety is top of mind.
I get the broader point you are trying to make, but WY “barely escaping 4-5 Kenwood” isn’t making the point you think it’s making. Kenwood’s losses were to Naz, Franny, WY by the exact same score, the aforementioned Morgan Park, and Simeon.
WY and Kenwood both high quality teams.
It is actually quite amazing that the Prep Bowl tournament has gone on for so long as an outlier competition. Unless I am missing something, nothing remotely like it exists in any other IHSA sport. Carving out this exception is totally out-of-character for the organization.
It would be impractical for Spring sports due to extreme senioritis and lack of focus at the end of or past last day of school. AAU, Club and Travel fill the need for seasoning in other sports.
It still has some cache in Chicago. People grow up hearing their dads and grandfathers talk about it. Plus I think there’s motivation to turn a disappointing sub-500 record around
Is there any community support around the games? Do students attend? Bands and cheerleaders participate?
Never been to a prep bowl game before so curious.
An AD advocating to take games away from kids is so ass backwards.
go start your own thing in your conference
go start your own thing in your conference
The Red and white divisions participate in the state playoffs. Those are the most competitive teams in CPS. Blue division makes up the schools that have the most trouble fielding a team and are less competitive than the others. Every year the top teams in each division moves up and the bottom schools drop a level.
I love me some CPL Talk!
As a CPL fan, I love the Prep Bowl. It gives CPL teams the opportunity to play football into November, and I love that. I know the thing to do this time of year in this forum is to bash CPL teams and how underserving they are of the IHSA playoffs, how they can't compete, how they take up playoff spots from more deserving teams...blah, blah, blah... The idea of CPL schools getting an opportunity to do anything the rest of the state can't do just infuriates everyone. Good grief. If you actually spent some time going to CPL games on Thursday afternoons in front of 9 fans, you might have a greater appreciation for what those teams are dealing with. Honestly, head to the Friday and Saturday night games at Lane or Gately and you will see the same things. Low numbers of players. Mismatched jerseys. Low numbers of coaches. A shocking lack of gear (hudl sideline, trainers, kicking nets, only a couple sets of headphones - if there are headphones at all, no way to film...etc...) I know there are some exceptions, but overall, unless you are Simeon, Morgan Park, Kenwood, or Taft, nothing has been consistent. So what if they get some extra weeks to play football and possibly win a trophy? I'll say it again, no one in the CPL makes a stink that they are winning games by 40+ against suburban teams in the first rounds of the IHSA Basketball playoffs. Give it a rest and let the kids play.
As a CPL fan, I love the Prep Bowl. It gives CPL teams the opportunity to play football into November, and I love that. I know the thing to do this time of year in this forum is to bash CPL teams and how underserving they are of the IHSA playoffs, how they can't compete, how they take up playoff spots from more deserving teams...blah, blah, blah... The idea of CPL schools getting an opportunity to do anything the rest of the state can't do just infuriates everyone. Good grief. If you actually spent some time going to CPL games on Thursday afternoons in front of 9 fans, you might have a greater appreciation for what those teams are dealing with. Honestly, head to the Friday and Saturday night games at Lane or Gately and you will see the same things. Low numbers of players. Mismatched jerseys. Low numbers of coaches. A shocking lack of gear (hudl sideline, trainers, kicking nets, only a couple sets of headphones - if there are headphones at all, no way to film...etc...) I know there are some exceptions, but overall, unless you are Simeon, Morgan Park, Kenwood, or Taft, nothing has been consistent. So what if they get some extra weeks to play football and possibly win a trophy? I'll say it again, no one in the CPL makes a stink that they are winning games by 40+ against suburban teams in the first rounds of the IHSA Basketball playoffs. Give it a rest and let the kids play.
