Luke Ford....

Discussion in 'Edgy's Lost His Mind Free Football Board' started by mullin17, Jun 7, 2019.

  1. mullin17

    mullin17 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2001
    Messages:
    382
    Likes Received:
    74
    There has to be a lawyer in this group that can defend Ford to get him eligible!
    Down with the NCAA!
     
  2. brucealmighy

    brucealmighy Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2006
    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    82
    It’s a joke that the tOSU and Georgia QBs are eligible right away and he is not
     
  3. Coalertown44

    Coalertown44 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2014
    Messages:
    365
    Likes Received:
    184
    That is a real travesty. Let the kid play.
     
  4. epicbret

    epicbret Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2005
    Messages:
    24,266
    Likes Received:
    1,452
    Is it a family health thing?
     
  5. corey90

    corey90 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2005
    Messages:
    4,289
    Likes Received:
    727
    Location:
    Hilliard Ohio
    Yes it appears his Grandfather is and he wants to be closer to him. That said if the NCAA starts breaking the rules where does it stop. If he wants to play he will need to go to a smaller school for a year then transfer or sit out a year.
     
  6. epicbret

    epicbret Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2005
    Messages:
    24,266
    Likes Received:
    1,452
    I stopped being lazy, and yeah it's not his immediate family. No issue with their decision on this one.
     
  7. woody6

    woody6 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2016
    Messages:
    676
    Likes Received:
    284
    From what I have read, the NCAA has a 100-mile cap between the infirm loved one and the transfer site. The Carterville/Champaign distance is some 190 miles. Tough outcome for the involved parties.
     
  8. TDCumm16

    TDCumm16 Active Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2004
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    21
    I think the main issue here is inconsistency. Particularly the very quick and public approval of waivers for big name QBs (Fields and Martell) to big name blue blood programs (OSU and Miami). Looks really bad when everyone knows Martell and Fields transferred for starting QB jobs

    Heck Justin Fields was at GA with Luke. Same team, same class, same coaches. Fields is a local GA kid whose sister is still at the school playing softball. He goes across the country to OSU and is approved.

    It also seems bad for NCAA to want to sit themselves in middle of defining where to draw the line on “close enough” family member health since everyone is raised in diff situations. The 100 mile radius is completely arbitrary and discriminatory to anyone from a rural area (why not allow transfer into 1 of 2 nearest schools vs mileage?)

    I also don’t understand how this isn’t just simple black and white. Either everyone sits a year (or 3 games or 6 games) or everyone gets 1 free pass. Why the NCAA wants a process that requires 19 year olds to hire high price lawyers to determine if they can play a sport at a school is non-sensical
     
  9. bronco man

    bronco man Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    May 18, 2009
    Messages:
    666
    Likes Received:
    345
    Apparently Fields transfer was not based on a family members heath situation.

    "During his limited freshman campaign, Fields was the subject of a racist comment from Georgia baseball player Adam Sasser. The comment was made during Georgia's win over Tennessee on Sept. 29, which gave the freshman QB and his attorney, Thomas Mars, grounds to make the case that Fields should be able to transfer without an eligibility penalty.

    New NCAA transfer guidelines include a provision for undergraduate transfers which states that a player may not have to spend one year-in-residence before taking the field for their new team if "the transfer is due to documented mitigating circumstances that are outside the student-athlete’s control and directly impact the health, safety and well-being of the student-athlete.""
    https://www.si.com/college-football...state-transfer-georgia-transfer-ncaa-decision
     
    TDCumm16 likes this.
  10. TDCumm16

    TDCumm16 Active Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2004
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    21
    The ridiculous thing about Fields is that comment was apparently yelled from the stands. His sister is still at Georgia.

    How one could argue well being around racism but then keep your other child at the university is beyond me. If the NCAA believes there is racism impacting athletes at GA not sure why their only action is to let Fields transfer and not address the situation

    The inconsistency and subjectivity of it all is what is frustrating for someone like Ford. It is clear Fields went for a starting job. Ford was slotting in as a starter at GA but left to be near family. Surface level seems NCAA wants to avoid the race topic becoming public and lets the money/brand of big programs and players influence outcomes
     
  11. PowerI66

    PowerI66 Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2012
    Messages:
    1,149
    Likes Received:
    496
    All about optics. A group of old white dudes (the NCAA) can't tell a black student that racism did not occur. Imagine that story on the news and online.
     
  12. 1111SouthFirst

    1111SouthFirst Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2006
    Messages:
    5,281
    Likes Received:
    125
    Ford is from Carterville, IL in extreme southern Illinois. If he were to transfer to a Power 5 school within 100 miles of Carterville, his options would be......none. The NCAA 100 mile transfer "rule" is biased for schools in or near large metro areas and against players from relatively remote rural areas.
     
    Gene K. likes this.
  13. Cross Bones

    Cross Bones Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2001
    Messages:
    19,560
    Likes Received:
    1,846
    100 miles does seem arbitrary, why not 100 kilometers? Or closest P5?
     
  14. DigitalCy

    DigitalCy Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2017
    Messages:
    129
    Likes Received:
    105
    I could be wrong as I saw this on the twitter machine, but I gather his sister is not transferring with him from Georgia. Regardless, the NCAA continues to prove their incompetence
     
  15. mc140

    mc140 Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    May 29, 2001
    Messages:
    7,128
    Likes Received:
    858
    If Illinois was better at football he would be playing this fall.
     
    1111SouthFirst likes this.
  16. PanthersWildcats86

    PanthersWildcats86 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2017
    Messages:
    705
    Likes Received:
    343
    Basically the NCAA needs a different rule for football than other sports because FBS has so few schools, and needs to include grandparents in the era of the extended family. If going to the nearest FBS school isn't good enough, any FBS football player from a state without a FBS program (Montana, Dakotas, Alaska) is screwed if the family medical issue like Ford's grandfather happens...If this was basketball, Carterville is just east of Carbondale & the Salukis could be getting a windfall - SEMO and Evansville would also be within 100 miles, but SIUE and Murray State would be just outside the circle by road (by air, really close...)
     
  17. ClownBaby

    ClownBaby Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2006
    Messages:
    2,757
    Likes Received:
    1,023
    The NCAA should do the right thing and make everyone sit out a year regardless of circumstance. Leaving it up to interpretation is allowing people to game the system, does anyone really believe Fields would of left GA if he was going to start this year?
     
  18. daveje

    daveje Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2010
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    46
    Does this apply to the coaches who move? Why not let people decide where they want to live and go to school without the strings attached? This limitation on movement is just another way the large institutions are exploiting these kids.
     
  19. corey90

    corey90 Well-Known Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2005
    Messages:
    4,289
    Likes Received:
    727
    Location:
    Hilliard Ohio
    Yeah that’s a good idea. Let’s have no rules and see how that works out.
     
  20. daveje

    daveje Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2010
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    46
    Who benefits from the rule that makes a player sit out if he transfers? Why aren’t coaches subject to this same rule?
     
  21. ClownBaby

    ClownBaby Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2006
    Messages:
    2,757
    Likes Received:
    1,023
    They can already do this if the don’t accept a scholarship, but they sign on the dotted line and enter into a contract so you play by the rules.
     
  22. daveje

    daveje Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2010
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    46
    It’s a shame the players have been unable to form a union and get some leverage to strike a better deal. For guys at the major football and basketball schools, the deal is shit.
     
  23. ClownBaby

    ClownBaby Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2006
    Messages:
    2,757
    Likes Received:
    1,023
    How do propose they navigate title 9 if they are able to unionize? You can’t pay football and basketball players and not pay women athletes.
     
  24. daveje

    daveje Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2010
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    46
    Sure you can.
     
  25. ClownBaby

    ClownBaby Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2006
    Messages:
    2,757
    Likes Received:
    1,023
    @daveje

    Wonderful! Indeed, this might be the greatest boon to women’s sports since Title IX itself.

    If each new dollar of spending went equally to men and women, the system would function like a 100% payroll tax on male college athlete’s pay. If a star quarterback is worth $50,000 to a school, and they knew that for every dollar they spent on him, they would also need to allocate a dollar to women’s sports, then the most they could afford to offer him would be $25,000, knowing the other $25,000 had to go to meet their (theoretical) Title IX pay-equity burden. As every school would have this same tax burden, competition for those athletes would be fair, but muted...


    So you aren't paying women athletes you are just increasing their budgets, where does this money come from without eliminating non-revenue men's sports?
     
  26. daveje

    daveje Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2010
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    46
    Why should football and basketball players be responsible for subsidizing golf and lacrosse? Perhaps they should justify their existence and find a way to support themselves. I played a non-rev sport at a school with one of these major men’s teams and we spent a lot of time fundraising and we probably should have done more. The idea that a basketball should have to sacrifice so I could play my sport is stupid.
     
  27. mc140

    mc140 Well-Known Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    May 29, 2001
    Messages:
    7,128
    Likes Received:
    858
    And schools who raise student fees to pay for the football and basketball teams should have to drop the sport.
     
    ClownBaby likes this.

Share This Page