Hello All - 2 REF/Rules Questions:
1. York ball at W20: A pass was completed to the York WR - he caught the ball running laterally along the 5 yard line - after successfully tip-toeing the sidelines he turns downfield for the final 5 yards but dropped the ball en route - either 1 inch before or 1 inch after crossing the end line - he then proceeded to pickup the loose ball but when he did he has one foot out of bounds. Here is my question:
A. IF deemed he lost ball after crossing the end line, then obviously it = TD
B. IF deemed he lost ball before the ball reached the end line, I believe it would = Touchback, ball over to Willowbrook at the 20 since the ball was picked up while out of bounds, therefore it is if the ball went through the end zone.
I am correct on B?
BTW, Official Ruling = Incomplete Pass with no clear explanation (York settles for FG)
Go to YouTube and watch the play at the 2:16 mark - the telecast started with our Senior Night intros, that is why this 3rd Q play is past 2 hours into broadcast.
2. York ball near midfield (same 3Q) - Wide Receiver screen, Luke is the intended receiver - excellent defensive play by Brook - the DB crushed Luke at same time the ball arrived (clean play) - but the ball popped up in the air and was caught by another York receiver - he then gained about 12 yards. Problem is as the ball was in the air, the official inadvertently blew his whistle. Now I get it that nothing can be done at that point to reverse anything - I have seen many inadvertent whistles in my day and it should be ball dead at spot - right? But in this case, the ball was in the AIR - so do we say the ball comes down at that point and since there is no clear change in possession, York retains ball and as the result of the play, it is a loss of 2 yards and therefore now 2nd down and 12? That's my take - I am correct?
BTW, Official Ruling = A Re-do, we go back to York Ball 1st and 10 - I have never seen a football "Mulligan" !!
Actually I have Question #3: Same 3Q - a York kickoff is squibbed and rolled and bounced and was near the 3 yard line toward the sideline when I saw the Brook player touch it before the ball went out of bounds (I think you can see it on film as well - close but you can see the direction of the ball change after touching both hands). The Ref spotted the ball at the Brook 20; 1st & Ten. Now does the kicking team get to kick the official in the nuts once or twice?
Strangely officiated game - I normally do not like to badmouth the refs so I will leave it at that - but this game had some of the oddest calls and sleepiest officials - on 3 FG attempts, play was halted because the side official on the York side kept forgetting to position himself under the goal post upright -you could tell the Ref was visibly upset with his crew.
But great game and good outcome - after getting shutout in 2 straight games v Hinsdale Central & Glenbard West, York responds with a 25-23 WIN. Brook is a very good teamand they have a RB that was and is a BEAST!
1. York ball at W20: A pass was completed to the York WR - he caught the ball running laterally along the 5 yard line - after successfully tip-toeing the sidelines he turns downfield for the final 5 yards but dropped the ball en route - either 1 inch before or 1 inch after crossing the end line - he then proceeded to pickup the loose ball but when he did he has one foot out of bounds. Here is my question:
A. IF deemed he lost ball after crossing the end line, then obviously it = TD
B. IF deemed he lost ball before the ball reached the end line, I believe it would = Touchback, ball over to Willowbrook at the 20 since the ball was picked up while out of bounds, therefore it is if the ball went through the end zone.
I am correct on B?
BTW, Official Ruling = Incomplete Pass with no clear explanation (York settles for FG)
Go to YouTube and watch the play at the 2:16 mark - the telecast started with our Senior Night intros, that is why this 3rd Q play is past 2 hours into broadcast.
2. York ball near midfield (same 3Q) - Wide Receiver screen, Luke is the intended receiver - excellent defensive play by Brook - the DB crushed Luke at same time the ball arrived (clean play) - but the ball popped up in the air and was caught by another York receiver - he then gained about 12 yards. Problem is as the ball was in the air, the official inadvertently blew his whistle. Now I get it that nothing can be done at that point to reverse anything - I have seen many inadvertent whistles in my day and it should be ball dead at spot - right? But in this case, the ball was in the AIR - so do we say the ball comes down at that point and since there is no clear change in possession, York retains ball and as the result of the play, it is a loss of 2 yards and therefore now 2nd down and 12? That's my take - I am correct?
BTW, Official Ruling = A Re-do, we go back to York Ball 1st and 10 - I have never seen a football "Mulligan" !!
Actually I have Question #3: Same 3Q - a York kickoff is squibbed and rolled and bounced and was near the 3 yard line toward the sideline when I saw the Brook player touch it before the ball went out of bounds (I think you can see it on film as well - close but you can see the direction of the ball change after touching both hands). The Ref spotted the ball at the Brook 20; 1st & Ten. Now does the kicking team get to kick the official in the nuts once or twice?
Strangely officiated game - I normally do not like to badmouth the refs so I will leave it at that - but this game had some of the oddest calls and sleepiest officials - on 3 FG attempts, play was halted because the side official on the York side kept forgetting to position himself under the goal post upright -you could tell the Ref was visibly upset with his crew.
But great game and good outcome - after getting shutout in 2 straight games v Hinsdale Central & Glenbard West, York responds with a 25-23 WIN. Brook is a very good teamand they have a RB that was and is a BEAST!