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Sangamo Conference Woes

Records and history say you're wrong. But do you, my guy. Mold this into any shape you want to fit your narrative. The numbers show QND would do far better than 2-7 since 2000 if they were members of the CS8 as it currently exists. The Mendoza line begins below Chatham in your world, I figured a smart guy like you could have figured that out. Not a single program outside of the big 3 in the CS8 have been relevant in their class... ever. Their playoff records that I provided prove that. Their overall records since 2000 prove that.

"QND does not belong in either of the Central State 8 divisions" is easily one of the most off the wall, ignorant statements I've ever read. No one belongs in any conference based on this logic. And the stalest cigar said he'd rather have MTZ... 🤣🤣🤣

Edit: Didn't miss anything on the stats bud. Glenwood's 1998 state title didn't fit into the years I used. Pretty simple to understand. 2000 came AFTER 1998. In case you were confused. Records from the IHSA prior to 2000 are tough, spotty, have some holes.
Ahhh, so you’re manipulating the data to suit your purpose. Got it.

As for the Mt Zion comment, odd that I would make that comment just a day before this attached article was posted. You don’t belong in the CS8. Mt. Zion does.

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Sangamo Conference Woes

Since QND hasn't played a game in the CS8 we have zero idea. However we do have samples, sort of... QND in the MS6 in the mid 00s. QND in the big 12 during 2020. QND faired just fine against schools larger than them.

No one, most especially myself, came in here and claimed QND were world beaters, could win the league, even compete for the league, or wouldn't have any lumps to deal with making this transition.

Cigaros took it upon himself to throw out ignorant senseless commentary about how QND doesn't belong where they are. Blindly ignoring the fact that outside of SHG and Rochester the conference is as pedestrian as he claims QND is. It's really tough, when you look on paper, to even justify putting Glenwood in the same category as Rochester and SHG. Because they don't belong there if you're using playoff success as a barometer.

My point remains that the majority of the CS8 is mid to well below average in terms of program "success." Being a relative term there. I gauge success on playoff berths, depth of playoff runs, and overall records. Someone may do it differently. But, on paper, the historical data and AI proves I'm not wrong. QND will hold up just fine in the CS8. Wildly claiming they don't belong is just egocentric bullshit that cigaros feels needs aired out because he too has an obvious lack of knowledge of QND and it's program. I don't mind. We welcome all challenges, as evidenced by the decision to join this league in the 1st place. Let whatever suburban schools benefitting from the failing urban public districts of the city they're attached to live with the targets on their heads. Let them thump their chests and remind us all they're fantastic and we suck. I don't care. I'm just here defending the fact that QND belongs in the CS8 as much or more-so than the majority of the conference.

Calpreps, for what it's worth (which is little), has QND at 62-43 overall since 2003 (21 seasons) against the CS8 West division, where they'll be playing.
The breakdown of records versus each team in the CS8 West...
QND vs. Jax- 11-10
QND vs. SHS- 14-7
QND vs. Lanphier- 20-1
QND vs. SHG- 0-21
QND vs. SE- 16-5
Let me guess. You did stats for QND football when you were in school!
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Atilla v Caravan - 42-38 Hun, Final

Hun QB, Jack Moran, is one of the most accomplished high school (prep school, rather) passers I've seen in years. Moran reads defenses well, has advanced mechanics and excellent feet, has a beautiful release, and impeccable accuracy.

Very impressive player. I was pleased to see him in person last night.

Was he one of their players in their post high school graduate program? I know Hun has such a program, but their maxpreps roster only shows the traditional four class years. According to The Hun website, "Hun postgraduates are full-time boarding school students and members of the senior class. They take full course loads and participate in activities, athletics, extracurriculars, and social events."

Program question?

From what I have seen with family and friends kids playing football and being a HS football fan....

1. Crete connection with feeder programs and elementary schools in your district. Team reading days, welcome the kids to school, team building activities, etc.

2. Have camps for all levels in the summer, spring, and/or winter. Teach the fundamentals but allow the kids to play games and have fun.

3. Create a children friendly game day atmosphere or have special days to get families to bring their kids to the games and watch the on-the-field product. Trunk or Treat, PeeWee Night, etc. Get the kids and parents interested in your program. Many schools let kids form a tunnel on the field as well.

4. All kids should get a decent amount of playing time in Freshman. No kid should sit the bench the entire game. I've seen many kids who were not good as freshman turn into All-State by Junior/Senior year. You don't want to run anybody off because of playing time.

5. Let kids join late, especially at the Fr/So level.

6. Build confidence in the weight room. Coaches know weights are important for speed, strength, injury prevention, etc. but kids don't see it this way. They just see their numbers. No matter what the gain, celebrate it.

7. Coach kids how kids should be coached. You can't coach every kid the same way, you have to learn their personality. Some kids can take a good yelling others can't. Have your coaches learn the personalities of their group, allow them to coach the kids the way the kids need to be coached.

8. Know when to lighten up, not everything has to be 100% focused all the time. Make practice somewhat fun for the kids so that they don't dread going day after day. If you being big game and played well, give them a Saturday off.

9. Win the game of life. Winning is important but realize most of these kids won't be playing at the next level so it is important to teach the larger life lessons and work skills why playing football. Also, this should got without saying, show the kids, AT ALL LEVELS you care about them more as a student/person than a football player.

10. Create a team culture, remind ALL players that they play an important role, no matter what that role is, especially the scout team players. They may not perform on Friday night but you have to give those kids a sense of ownership of the victory. They work just as hard as the guys in the field in practice.
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