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2. They are coming off as dismissive. Any other fanbase that does it also comes off as pompous.
ESL- The best in the state
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2. They are coming off as dismissive. Any other fanbase that does it also comes off as pompous.
Upset with????? Now I know you’re just a lost dog trying to find a bone.
I agree with ESL fans that they will win the title and have a claim to the best team in the state. But since we have no way of proving it, it's a lost discussion. To state that same discussion is not up for discussion because one team is "the best" is stupid. Makes you seem pompous. Other fan bases have done the same, it's not uniquely ESL, but it's currently ESL fans and those on that side of the arguement.
Well why would you bring up a poll I didn't have a hand in? Clearly it has stuck with you throughout the season. Leads me to believe it rankled you some. I didn't even know it existed, it seems you have a printed copy somewhere.
I can agree with that.
My reason for referencing the poll was to inform you that ESL fans did not originate the meaningless discussion, someone else did. ESL fans amongst others just responded to it and have fed off of it since. ESL fans are just defending our team’s honor, so to speak.
You don't have to defend their honor. Let those others seem like idiots.
The LWE fans also have gotten their share of crap from the board [and called pompous].
Anyway, not trying to start a shitstorm. We both think ESL is really freaking good.
No it's not. It's nothing wrong with thinking you are the best, esp since none of these dream matchups will play out on the field. I wouldn't expect any of these other teams playing for state to say anything other than they believe they are the best
Of course we will - it will be decided right here in Edgy’s.
It’s just that not everyone will agree.
All.... I went to this game yesterday (thank you Flyer tailgaters lol) and from the start it was obvious that ESL would win this game. The best team Chatham has ever had including the 98 championship squad could not stop them. Credit to the Titans though the Flyers had to work for most of their scores. Ratsy
Did you purposely leave out PR? Seems to me that the 6A title game is still to be played. I really like both teams, but they have different styles of play. All gas, no brakes for East Side and Pound the rock from PR. Very interesting matchups IMO.
You’re still here???
Math and logic aren’t your strong suit, I see. Look, let me help you. Every team in your list is undefeated except for Naz. Therefore, they aren’t in the discussion, especially not on this thread!!
Also, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that your list is in no specific order.
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I think naz puts 50 on ESL with that defense!
They gave up 48 points to nequa,repeat 48!
They up 28 to Glenwood!Stop with this best team in state.They might have best offense.
Yeah, and what did Batavia put up on us?
I tried to help you not sound like an idiot, but you are beyond my reach........
I’ll leave you to your twisted logic.
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I watched the game today (prerecorded). It is true, East St. Louis was in control the entire game. Penalties, by my count, were 11 against East St. Louis and 6 against Chatham Glenwood. I recall only one turnover, a fumble lost by Glenwood. It was 28 - 0 at the half and never closer than 34 - 14 after that. The Titans only forced the Flyers to punt twice and the game ended with East St. Louis at the Glenwood one-yard line.
No championship game is a lock, but Prairie Ridge is going to have its hands full. The Flyers demonstrated they can sustain long drives. It doesn't have to be 80-yard touchdown runs, though they are certainly capable of that as well. Furthermore, I don't think Prairie Ridge matches up well against East St. Louis. The Flyers' only defensive vulnerability is that their defensive backs are sometimes out of position on coverage, but Prairie Ridge is not a passing team (though somewhat better this year). The main thing, though, is that the East St. Louis defensive front is very disruptive, and penetration can cause havoc with an option team. I just don't see Prairie Ridge sustaining enough drives to score often and/or keep the Flyers' offense off the field. Additionally, even when the East St. Louis defensive backs are caught out of position, they have enough speed to keep it to a 30-yard gain rather than a long touchdown.
To me it is always fun to watch a triple-option offense because it is not frequently seen at the higher levels of football. I look forward to watching the Wolves on Saturday, I just don't think they will have much more success than the Titans.
I would have preferred if ESL called a timeout and punched that last one in.
Well vs a common opponent, both beat batavia by 14.
Esl won by 14 on the road. Naz won by 14 at home. So that's at least one data point that doesnt support naz being clearly better than esl
I'll also repeat that sunkett spent the entire second half playing his def scheme for next week ( after they had shut out CG in the first with less than 50 total yards)
Another data point is that ESL had 3 touchdowns called back in the 1st half and were robbed of a clear interception that allowed for Batavia to get on the board.
Some folks on here insist that making those statements is whining when in reality it’s just stating facts.
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Batavia lost to ESL by 14. They lost to Naz by... 14. You’re not helping your case.
Naz gets to have their cake and eat it to. They get the benefits of being humbled while still getting a win. Not bad. You can say they lost all you want but it turns out you can’t in fact cheat so Naz is 13-0. I’m not saying Naz is better than ESL because I only care if they’re better than Mt Carmel but I do have to say the ESL people are exhausting.
I imagine it’s how the Naz folk made people feel in 2014. I now get it.
Tell your team to stop breaking the rules and the guys in stripes will stop throwing those yellow things.
I won’t hush, I will say whatever the f I want. Don’t like it? Create your own board and don’t allow Naz people on it like Ratsy and the SHG people.
Fair, all the programs that have won it have been guilty at times. I openly admit I have been that guy. I’m in counseling tho!
Thanks
I don’t think it’s questionable when every game with different officiating crews is throwing tons of flags.
I think the fans need to understand that this falls on the coaches by not preparing their players to play mistake free football. IMO
Okay let me have it.
Don't you have a thread you have to turn political somewhere?
Hush is a southern way of saying I don’t agree - not to stifle a voice. Speak, Sir! (Even if you’re wrong!)
I think it’s fair to say we all love high school football and are passionate about our respective programs
You are correct. We all have to remember these are kids. 14-18 year old children. There will always be some mistake. It’s situational.Thanks
I don’t think it’s questionable when every game with different officiating crews is throwing tons of flags.
I think the fans need to understand that this falls on the coaches by not preparing their players to play mistake free football. IMO
Okay let me have it.
That's a fair point, but consider this game vs CG, which is really a microcosm of the issue. Esl has 5 off lineman that were all bigger and better than any DL glenwood had, and got called for 6 holding calls.Thanks
I don’t think it’s questionable when every game with different officiating crews is throwing tons of flags.
I think the fans need to understand that this falls on the coaches by not preparing their players to play mistake free football. IMO
Okay let me have it.
Esl def played an ultra aggressive game, blitzed 3 or 4 every play vs an undersized line, and CG didnt get called for a single holding penalty.
Hard to answer that unless I watched every play. Point is it’s every game not just a couple. I don’t believe every Ref is out to get ESL. Maybe the bigger linemen are easier to see? Who knows but it’s no accident it’s every game. Good news is ESL is good enough to overcome the penalties. If they get into a close game they better tighten up the mistakes.
East Side is a storied program, Bob Shannon was recognized as USA Today Coach of the Year, the only team to win the mythical National Championship in IL. The only Coach to be invited to the White House by Clinton, he’s received awards from Janet Reno and George Bush... should I go on! He’s quoted as once saying he didn’t have money for equipment, but yet during the same season won the State.
I’d say at one point East Side was America’s Team... they were certainly recognized on the national level. I saw a recent post that stated Sunkett is hated... maybe the ref issue plays into his mantra... ‘ us against the world, they hate us!’, just a source of motivation....
My theory is a little less sinister. but similar to a really good, uptempo bball team, these refs arent used to seeing high school kids that big and that athletic. They arent used to officiating a game with that level of athleticism
What Bob Shannon accomplished at ESL is nothing short of remarkable. Nobody has achieved so much with so little. The man is an American high school football coaching legend.
