That’s Effing Hilarious! And I mean it sincerely! Hope the boy gets better soon!We’re on the bus coming from the game, listening to “ killing you softly with a Hissong “
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That’s Effing Hilarious! And I mean it sincerely! Hope the boy gets better soon!We’re on the bus coming from the game, listening to “ killing you softly with a Hissong “
That’s Effing Hilarious! And I mean it sincerely! Hope the boy gets
ACLThat’s Effing Hilarious! And I mean it sincerely! Hope the boy gets better soon!
Damn. Tough MF’er. So he wasn’t just killing the clock???
No, he hurt his knee on that play. No way he would have just gone down.Damn. Tough MF’er. So he wasn’t just killing the clock???
I hope he still goes to the party! Deal with that Tuesday or after.
Wheaton North is #1 in the state.Don't think it's a dilemma at all. EStL was a really good team, but the media inflated them more than what they were. It's why whenever people asked who would beat them I responded with NV. Your #1 team will be WN, Lockport, or MS.
I see you Willowbrook lol But this performance is what they needed to state their case for sure.Wheaton North is #1 in the state.
WN kicked Rita’s a$$.I see you Willowbrook lol But this performance is what they needed to state their case for sure.
They barely beat Glenbard North and WWS, and had a loss.Wheaton North is #1 in the state.
And maybe Rita has just been way overhyped? Get the logic?They barely beat Glenbard North and WWS, and had a loss.
So what you are saying is CG is trash. Apparently you don’t know football. CG is good. Really good. So I nominate you for the dumbest post of the year award congrats to you give him the crown Edgy.
Or A team more underrated than CG
Rita did have a much easier path to the championship game. Their side of the bracket was very weak.And maybe Rita has just been way overhyped? Get the logic?
Idiot play by play suggested he went down to avoid scoring and keep the clock running.No, he hurt his knee on that play. No way he would have just gone down.
On that particular play, I’m watching the game with my boys who are home from college, and we all looked at each other in utter disbelief. Just terrible.Idiot play by play suggested he went down to avoid scoring and keep the clock running.
Gotta tell you I initially wondered especially since he went down without a hit but there was too much time left.Idiot play by play suggested he went down to avoid scoring and keep the clock running.
Maybe, and I’m just spitballing here, maybe Cary is pretty goodThey easily would have scored on the final drive if Hisson was on the field.
In over thirty years of watching IHSA football I’ve never seen a team more overrated than this year’s ESL team.
Not sure i agree on the ALL CLASS part of that comment. Was nice to see coaches and some players patting Hissong on the back, but several players pouting on the bench or down the sideline rather than shaking hands with CG looked very poor. Especially when i can note at least 2 if their captains.Great, great game. East St.Louis all class after the game... congratulating the injured Cary-Grove fullback... as well as others.
Now Edgy has a dilemma. Does he have the guts to leap unbeaten Cary-Grove (victors over the #1 team in the state) over several other teams to make them #1 in the Chicago area rankings?
I agree,I thought the brackets in 5A and 7A were very lob sided,and it showed by Kankakee and St.Rita’s outcomes.Rita did have a much easier path to the championship game. Their side of the bracket was very weak.
Always a chance for that in 1A-6A with the north vs south. 7A is “seeded” but the IHSA system is dumb so you can get this lopsided bracketI agree,I thought the brackets in 5A and 7A were very lob sided,and it showed by Kankakee and St.Rita’s outcomes.
Imagine if they played all three facets of the game…All that and only lost by 1?
Ummmmmmmm, they slayed the beast. Have a seat.They barely beat Glenbard North and WWS, and had a loss.
If they are "terrible" I'm sure they would not have a thriving business seeding playoff teams for various states. Furthermore, although I prefer to use and therefore test my own knowledge for the "Kings Challenge", I have on several occasions (with pen and paper) tested both Massey and the Freeman Ratings (which is what CalPreps uses). All three times they both would have finished in the top ten of the Kings Challenge had they been entered.Calpreps had Rochester top 10 after the Loyola game. Calpreps is terrible, They still have Loyola over Lockport
He told us in the media session after the game it was an ACL. What was amazing was that he was so calm when he answered questions, that actually a few of the reporters were asking if he truly had torn his ACL.Damn. Tough MF’er. So he wasn’t just killing the clock???
I hope he still goes to the party! Deal with that Tuesday or after.
I remember during the season when ESL moved up to 6A there were quite a few posts about how could anyone in the media vote for Cary Grove over ESL in the AP rankings. Guess there were a couple of media types who thought Cary was pretty good, even back then.Maybe, and I’m just spitballing here, maybe Cary is pretty good
Not poor. Those kids just lost on the biggest stage of their life. Some people can’t just press on and get through. The majority wins. Much respect for CG. If you noticed that their were two captions then you were eye hustling for sly comments. What we saw was class.Not sure i agree on the ALL CLASS part of that comment. Was nice to see coaches and some players patting Hissong on the back, but several players pouting on the bench or down the sideline rather than shaking hands with CG looked very poor. Especially when i can note at least 2 if their captains.
The subjectivity is simply built into their equation. I wouldnt trust any algorithm that cant see that Wilmington isnt in the top 20.If they are "terrible" I'm sure they would not have a thriving business seeding playoff teams for various states. Furthermore, although I prefer to use and therefore test my own knowledge for the "Kings Challenge", I have on several occasions (with pen and paper) tested both Massey and the Freeman Ratings (which is what CalPreps uses). All three times they both would have finished in the top ten of the Kings Challenge had they been entered.
I will say the two are a little different from one another. CalPreps, because it is used for seeding, considers both how good a team is and how deserving a team is when it produces its ratings. Massey does the same thing for one of its ratings, but also produces a pure power rating designed to reflect solely how good a team is. Nonetheless, all the various ratings had East St. Louis as the best team in the state. If (purely hypothetically) I were to risk money on the outcome of an Illinois high school football game, I would definitely use their data rather than rely on your flawed, subjective opinion.
I'm not as offended by them not kicking FG's as some here are. They actually came out ahead in XP's by going for two than if they would have kicked and hit every XP.Imagine if they played all three facets of the game…
Cal, is that you?If they are "terrible" I'm sure they would not have a thriving business seeding playoff teams for various states. Furthermore, although I prefer to use and therefore test my own knowledge for the "Kings Challenge", I have on several occasions (with pen and paper) tested both Massey and the Freeman Ratings (which is what CalPreps uses). All three times they both would have finished in the top ten of the Kings Challenge had they been entered.
I will say the two are a little different from one another. CalPreps, because it is used for seeding, considers both how good a team is and how deserving a team is when it produces its ratings. Massey does the same thing for one of its ratings, but also produces a pure power rating designed to reflect solely how good a team is. Nonetheless, all the various ratings had East St. Louis as the best team in the state. If (purely hypothetically) I were to risk money on the outcome of an Illinois high school football game, I would definitely use their data rather than rely on your flawed, subjective opinion.
Yeah, my jaw dropped when I heard that one. It was pretty obvious the kid was hurt and never would have gone down on his own. I've never been impressed with Lee and Jack definitely needs to retire.Idiot play by play suggested he went down to avoid scoring and keep the clock running.
CG gave them the gift of the fumble at the 12 yard line and a gift of the kickoff return. Also CG’s best player missed what would have been the final touchdown.All that and only lost by 1?
Here is what happened: I’m with the ESL fans in the stands around the 50 waiting to take a seat for the 7A championship. Game ends, 90% of ESL is lined up to shake hands. A handful of players went straight to the north 15-20 yard line, a couple of Flyers stay by the bench. As the line gets going, all the Flyers not originally lined up, all get to the back of the line and shake hands. I couldn’t see under the cantilever for any players but all the Flyers that didn’t get right into line after the buzzer that I saw, got into the line and shook hands. No drama.Not poor. Those kids just lost on the biggest stage of their life. Some people can’t just press on and get through. The majority wins. Much respect for CG. If you noticed that their were two captions then you were eye hustling for sly comments. What we saw was class.
One more thought on this game. CG’s o-line played huge yesterday against some monsters. #63 Petko and #77 Katsenos played both ways the entire game and Katsenos was not a regular defender during the season. Hissong and Sheehan get a lot of props for their running but that line opened up a lot of lanes.
I’m not crapping on them, just wondering.I'm not as offended by them not kicking FG's as some here are. They actually came out ahead in XP's by going for two than if they would have kicked and hit every XP.
No one is crapping on Rita for missing two FG's and an XP. had they scored two TD's instead and went for 2 then WN still would have won, but it would be 35-24.
It's been a constant point of contention for ESL this season on the board. For whatever reason "urban" or "athletic" or "undisciplined" (use whatever euphemism) teams don't typically have strong kicking games unless they're diverse enough to have some other demographic available for FG services. I don't know if there's a better explanation than that. But imagine EStL guys in every thread asking schools why they don't have a 4* WR and seriously expecting them to answer. I actually applaud them for just dropping it and committing to 2pts all the time.I’m not crapping on them, just wondering.
I’m not using any of the buzzwords people use to bash ESL and I’m not tolerant of it in any way. I would take LB3 over a great kicker every day of the week though!It's been a constant point of contention for ESL this season on the board. For whatever reason "urban" or "athletic" or "undisciplined" (use whatever euphemism) teams don't typically have strong kicking games unless they're diverse enough to have some other demographic available for FG services. I don't know if there's a better explanation than that. But imagine EStL guys in every thread asking schools why they don't have a 4* WR and seriously expecting them to answer. I actually applaud them for just dropping it and committing to 2pts all the time.
That said when I went to the Gateway Classic a couple years back I want to say they were 3/3 on XP kicks.