Week 8 AP Class 8A thru 5A Top 10 polls

[EdgyTim]

The Illlinois high school football AP polls are out. Here are the latest rankings of Illinois high school football teams in each class, according to an Associated Press panel of sportswriters:

Class 8A

No. Team W-L Pts Prv
1. Lincoln-Way East (10) 7-0 100 1
2. Loyola 5-2 75 3
3. Warren 7-0 73 2
4. Notre Dame (Niles) 7-0 70 4
5. Homewood-Flossmoor 6-1 51 6
T-6. Hinsdale Central 7-0 47 5
T-6. Neuqua Valley 6-1 47 7
8. Minooka 7-0 33 8
9. Oswego 7-0 19 9
10. Bolingbrook 6-1 15 10
Others receiving votes: St. Charles East 10, South Elgin 5, Huntley 3, Maine South 2.

Class 7A

No. Team W-L Pts Prv
1. (Chicago) Mt. Carmel (9) 7-0 99 1
2. Nazareth (1) 6-1 85 2
3. Glenbard West 7-0 79 3
4. Hersey 7-0 65 5
5. Phillips 6-1 56 6
6. Rolling Meadows 7-0 48 T-7
7. Batavia 5-2 41 4
8. Benet 6-1 22 T-7
9. Willowbrook 6-1 21 NR
10. Normal Community 6-1 15 NR
Others receiving votes: Andrew 5, DeKalb 4, Glenbard East 4, Grant 3, Conant 2, Brother Rice 1.

Class 6A

No. Team W-L Pts Prv
1. Chatham Glenwood (9) 7-0 108 1
2. Crete-Monee (1) 7-0 95 2
3. Simeon (1) 5-1 81 3
4. Cary-Grove 6-1 68 4
5. Richards 6-1 62 5
6. Prairie Ridge 6-1 57 6
7. Antioch 6-1 41 8
8. Providence 5-2 34 9
9. Yorkville 6-1 22 7
10. Lemont 6-1 15 NR

Others receiving votes: Normal West 10, Kaneland 9, Peoria Central 3.

Class 5A

No. Team W-L Pts Prv
1. East St. Louis (12) 7-0 120 1
2. Sterling 7-0 102 2
T-3. Hillcrest 6-1 81 4
T-3. Boylan Catholic 7-0 81 3
5. Montini 5-2 65 5
6. Sycamore 6-1 62 2
7. Marion 7-0 46 7
8. St. Rita 4-3 34 8
9. Kankakee 6-1 29 9
10. Carbondale 6-1 17 10
Others receiving votes: Dunlap 8, Cahokia 6, Joliet Catholic 6, St. Laurence 3.

Class 4A

No. Team W-L Pts Prv
1. IC Catholic (11) 7-0 119 1
2. Rochester 7-0 106 2
3. Coal City (1) 7-0 99 3
4. Richmond-Burton 7-0 80 4
5. Stillman Valley 7-0 64 5
6. Mt. Zion 7-0 52 6
7. Effingham 7-0 39 8
8. Columbia 7-0 35 7
9. Genoa-Kingston 7-0 23 10
10. St. Francis 6-1 19 9
Others receiving votes: Illinois Valley Central 16, Bishop McNamara 5, Benton 2, Fairbury Prairie Central 1.



Class 3A

No. Team W-L Pts Prv
1. Wilmington (9) 7-0 124 1
2. Williamsville (4) 7-0 121 2
3. Byron 6-1 93 3
4. Beardstown 7-0 85 4
5. Vandalia 7-0 72 5
6. Nashville 7-0 62 6
7. Fairfield 7-0 50 7
8. Pana 7-0 43 8
9. Princeton 6-1 33 9
10. Eureka 6-1 18 10
Others receiving votes: DuQuoin 9, Breese Mater Dei, 3, Mt. Carmel 2.

Class 2A

No. Team W-L Pts Prv
1. Fieldcrest (7) 7-0 122 1
2. Clifton Central (5) 7-0 116 2
3. Maroa-Forsyth (1) 6-1 100 3
4. Gibson City-Melvin-Sibley 6-1 90 4
5. St. Teresa 6-1 73 5
6. Knoxville 7-0 67 6
7. Newman Central Catholic 6-1 58 7
8. Bismarck-Henning 6-1 46 8
9. Auburn 5-2 24 9
10. West Carroll 5-2 15 10
Others receiving votes: Flora 2, Orr 2.

Class 1A

No. Team W-L Pts Prv
1. Lena-Winslow (11) 7-0 119 1
2. Moweaqua Central A&M 7-0 103 3
3. Annawan-Wethersfield 7-0 88 4
4. Morrison 7-0 78 5
5. Ottawa Marquette 7-0 64 6
6. Forreston 6-1 55 2
7. Aquin 7-0 53 7
8. Hope Academy (1) 6-1 44 10
9. Camp Point Central 6-1 31 8
10. Athens 5-2 7 9
Others receiving votes: Tuscola 6, Carrollton 5, Fulton 2, Arcola 2, Kirkland Hiawatha 2, Princeville 1.

 

[stl705]

I’m sorry but comon, Loyola with 2 loses is the second best in 8a? Did they play clemson and oklahoma?? Give me a break..

 

[USD24]

I’m sorry but comon, Loyola with 2 loses is the second best in 8a? Did they play clemson and oklahoma?? Give me a break..

What schools would you put above them?

 

[stl705]

What schools would you put above them?

I’d have NND and Warren for sure above them, and may also put some or all of Homewood Flossmore, BB, Hinsdale C, and Nequa Valley who only lost a close game to ESTL. Maybe end of reg season and some of those teams lose, I consider Loyola at 2, just not now with all these 0 and 1 win teams putting impressive seasons together.

 

[CS99]

Has anyone every witnessed as dominating performance as South Elgin regardless of the conference they play in. They have scored 378 points and only given up 7 all year with 7 shutouts. Beat a 4-1 Glenbard East team then a 5-1 Glenbard South team. Is it going to take a win over Bartlett who also plays in the same conference and lost to Glenbard East or a win in the playoffs to get some love.

 

[Irish LB]

Has anyone every witnessed as dominating performance as South Elgin regardless of the conference they play in. They have scored 378 points and only given up 7 all year with 7 shutouts. Beat a 4-1 Glenbard East team then a 5-1 Glenbard South team. Is it going to take a win over Bartlett who also plays in the same conference and lost to Glenbard East or a win in the playoffs to get some love.

So they’ve given up 7 points all year but have 7 shutouts in 7 games? That’s nuts.

 

[corey90]

So they’ve given up 7 points all year but have 7 shutouts in 7 games? That’s nuts.

Lol
Stupid. We will see just how good they are when the actually play some one in the playoffs that is considered a good team from another conference.

 

[CS99]

So they’ve given up 7 points all year but have 7 shutouts in 7 games? That’s nuts.

My bad 6 shutouts and 7 points to GBE

 

[Bowie50]

Has anyone every witnessed as dominating performance as South Elgin regardless of the conference they play in. They have scored 378 points and only given up 7 all year with 7 shutouts. Beat a 4-1 Glenbard East team then a 5-1 Glenbard South team. Is it going to take a win over Bartlett who also plays in the same conference and lost to Glenbard East or a win in the playoffs to get some love.

A few wins in the playoffs

 

[USD24]

Has anyone every witnessed as dominating performance as South Elgin regardless of the conference they play in. They have scored 378 points and only given up 7 all year with 7 shutouts. Beat a 4-1 Glenbard East team then a 5-1 Glenbard South team. Is it going to take a win over Bartlett who also plays in the same conference and lost to Glenbard East or a win in the playoffs to get some love.

From 1969-71 Pittsfield High School had 15 straight shutouts....so take that!

 

[Irish LB]

My bad 6 shutouts and 7 points to GBE

Just busting your balls.

 

[Wolffan64]

Has anyone every witnessed as dominating performance as South Elgin regardless of the conference they play in. They have scored 378 points and only given up 7 all year with 7 shutouts. Beat a 4-1 Glenbard East team then a 5-1 Glenbard South team. Is it going to take a win over Bartlett who also plays in the same conference and lost to Glenbard East or a win in the playoffs to get some love.

Has anyone every witnessed as dominating performance as South Elgin regardless of the conference they play in. They have scored 378 points and only given up 7 all year with 7 shutouts. Beat a 4-1 Glenbard East team then a 5-1 Glenbard South team. Is it going to take a win over Bartlett who also plays in the same conference and lost to Glenbard East or a win in the playoffs to get some love.

If they beat one of the team ranked top 10 they will get some love. Be patient. If SEHS is as good as your support is, it will show.

 

[EdgyTim]

I'm almost a lock at this point for a Round 1 game in South Elgin...

 

[XcornX]

I'm almost a lock at this point for a Round 1 game in South Elgin...

I hope I can attend that game as well.

 

[Alexander32]

Has anyone every witnessed as dominating performance as South Elgin regardless of the conference they play in. They have scored 378 points and only given up 7 all year with 7 shutouts. Beat a 4-1 Glenbard East team then a 5-1 Glenbard South team. Is it going to take a win over Bartlett who also plays in the same conference and lost to Glenbard East or a win in the playoffs to get some love.

In 2015 Arcola had a similar run in Class 1A. They also played in a very weak conference and consequently neither the polls nor the computer rating systems gave them much chance to advance far in the playoffs. Arcola's closest regular season game was 42 points and and they won their nine regular season games by an average of 55.7 points. By comparison, South Elgin's closest game so far this year was a 28-point win over Glenbard East and they have won their seven games by an average of 53 points.

When the playoffs came Arcola won its first two games handily. However, they were tested mightily in the quarterfinals and barely survived with a one-point win. If I am remembering correctly they beat Gibson City 14-13. Once again in the semifinal game and the championship game the computers gave them little chance of winning, but they won both games comfortably and won the 2015 1A state championship.

The fact is when a team plays in a very weak conference, and in the case of South Elgin in a closed conference (meaning no non-conference games), there really isn't a good opportunity to evaluate just how good they are. Thankfully the playoffs exist and will shed some light on the matter. I provided the Arcola example above to demonstrate that historically speaking it is possible for a team with South Elgin's background to have success in the playoffs. Hopefully they will get a reasonable bracket assignment (e.g. not have to play Loyola in the second round) and will have a chance to prove just how good they are. This type of situation is one of the many things that make high school football interesting and exciting.

 

[Gene K.]

My bad 6 shutouts and 7 points to GBE

You need to be really careful here CS99 as all of us guys will jump on you like a cat on a mouse.

 

[PowerI66]

Has anyone every witnessed as dominating performance as South Elgin regardless of the conference they play in. They have scored 378 points and only given up 7 all year with 7 shutouts. Beat a 4-1 Glenbard East team then a 5-1 Glenbard South team. Is it going to take a win over Bartlett who also plays in the same conference and lost to Glenbard East or a win in the playoffs to get some love.

Vernon Hills with DaVaris Daniels and Evan Spencer in 2010 had a pretty great run.

Date Time Result Score Opp.
Score OT H/A Opponent Opp.
Record Opp.
Enroll. Other Site
Aug 27 7:30 W 45 0 H Skokie (Niles West) 1-8 2626.00
Sep 3 7:30 W 56 0 H Chicago (Raby) 4-5 917.40
Sep 10 7:30 W 47 0 A Lake Villa (Lakes) 6-4 1449.00
Sep 16 7:00 W 60 0 H Round Lake 1-8 1940.00
Sep 24 7:30 W 34 0 H Antioch 7-3 1403.00
Oct 2 1:00 W 48 0 A Wauconda 3-6 1380.00
Oct 8 7:30 W 20 0 A Fox Lake (Grant) 5-5 1816.00
Oct 15 7:30 L 0 21 H Lake Forest (H.S.) 7-4 1786.00
Oct 22 7:30 W 55 6 H North Chicago 1-8 844.00
Oct 29 7:00 W 51 0 H Chicago (Harlan) 6-4 1399.00 Vernon Hills
Nov 6 5:00 W 37 22 A Tinley Park (H.S.) 7-4 1313.00 Tinley Park (H.S.)
Nov 13 1:00 L 21 27 H Maple Park (Kaneland)

 

[HighSchooldad]

Is this years sterling team better than last years team? Saw them play last year and they were very good as well. Wonder how they compare

 

[gw86]

Is this years sterling team better than last years team? Saw them play last year and they were very good as well. Wonder how they compare

That’s tough to answer, they’re different this year but getting similar results. Much better line play, maybe a little less athleticism on the outside/skill. I’m a homer but will readily say not number 2 in the state good. They belong somewhere in the top 10 though.

The conference switch makes it harder to gauge as well. Much more competition overall than the NIB12 west was, I think that shows on the defensive side. The 49-0 wins over an Ottawa type team have been replaced with 53-26 wins over Moline. There’s a few explosive kids we’ve played against that have been able to break some long td’s but not many teams have been able to sustain drives and punch one in at the end. At the same time, the top end teams we got in the crossovers with the East like sycamore/kaneland/etc is not there.

At this point, finish the season strong and healthy then see how the draw shakes out.

 

[Oddy]

Is this years sterling team better than last years team? Saw them play last year and they were very good as well. Wonder how they compare

IIRC, they got beat by Phillips last year, and now probably have to go through ESTL? Tough.

 

[Oddy]

I’m sorry but comon, Loyola with 2 loses is the second best in 8a? Did they play clemson and oklahoma?? Give me a break..

I agree, at least Warren and/or NND.

 

[gw86]

IIRC, they got beat by Phillips last year, and now probably have to go through ESTL? Tough.

Quarters in ‘16 were beat by Sycamore
Semis ‘17 beat by Phillips
Semis ‘18 beat by Montini

Hadn’t ever been to the semis before so a nice run the last few years.

 

[Simon "GHOST' Riley]

Edgy or anyone,

Can you explain how SF is 4A? I know we didn't make the playoffs in 15, 16, or 17. We did make it last year and lost in round 2 to Boylan. I am pretty sure our enrollment is above 750. How did we make 4A? Can someone please explain?[/QUOTE]

 

[EdgyTim]

Edgy or anyone,

Can you explain how SF is 4A? I know we didn't make the playoffs in 15, 16, or 17. We did make it last year and lost in round 2 to Boylan. I am pretty sure our enrollment is above 750. How did we make 4A? Can someone please explain?

[/QUOTE]

I use the IHSA preseason guidelines for polling purposes...and I only changed Phillips when it was announced that they elected to move up to 7A....otherwise I've used this same enrollments which list St Francis as 4A...it's also pinned to the top of this message board

Preseason IHSA enrollment guidelines

 

[USD24]

Edgy or anyone,

Can you explain how SF is 4A? I know we didn't make the playoffs in 15, 16, or 17. We did make it last year and lost in round 2 to Boylan. I am pretty sure our enrollment is above 750. How did we make 4A? Can someone please explain?

[/QUOTE]

St Francis is not multiplied due to lack of playoff wins. Enrollment per IHSA is 739, which puts them at the high end of 4A.

 

[King MJ]

wow 8A is stacked. maine south the 14th best team...

 

[bhawks]

wow 8A is stacked. maine south the 14th best team...

How do we even know MS is good? Any big wins this year?

 

[missingwalter]

How do we even know MS is good? Any big wins this year?

Tradition holds a lot of weight.

 

[Golden Warrior]

That’s tough to answer, they’re different this year but getting similar results. Much better line play, maybe a little less athleticism on the outside/skill. I’m a homer but will readily say not number 2 in the state good. They belong somewhere in the top 10 though.

The conference switch makes it harder to gauge as well. Much more competition overall than the NIB12 west was, I think that shows on the defensive side. The 49-0 wins over an Ottawa type team have been replaced with 53-26 wins over Moline. There’s a few explosive kids we’ve played against that have been able to break some long td’s but not many teams have been able to sustain drives and punch one in at the end. At the same time, the top end teams we got in the crossovers with the East like sycamore/kaneland/etc is not there.

At this point, finish the season strong and healthy then see how the draw shakes out.

this is spot on. the only thing i'll add is that sterling's qb this year (cooper willman) is a bigger difference maker this season than he was last season when he split time at qb and played db full time.

 

[IgorStL]

IIRC, they got beat by Phillips last year, and now probably have to go through ESTL? Tough.

They're projecting ESTL at 6A right now.

 

[markmacaluso]

Has anyone every witnessed as dominating performance as South Elgin regardless of the conference they play in. They have scored 378 points and only given up 7 all year with 7 shutouts. Beat a 4-1 Glenbard East team then a 5-1 Glenbard South team. Is it going to take a win over Bartlett who also plays in the same conference and lost to Glenbard East or a win in the playoffs to get some love.

This has been covered already. Most folks want to see a couple playoff wins to buy in on how good they really might be. That said, congrats on the great year so far.

 

[missingwalter]

This has been covered already. Most folks want to see a couple playoff wins to buy in on how good they really might be. That said, congrats on the great year so far.

I don't think WA's performance in the SW Prairie is helping their cause either.

 

[Simon "GHOST' Riley]

St Francis is not multiplied due to lack of playoff wins. Enrollment per IHSA is 739, which puts them at the high end of 4A.[/QUOTE]

1 since 2014 when we made the semis. So we don't make it in 15, 16, 17 and win 1 in 19. This means we are not in 5A?

 

[USD24]

St Francis is not multiplied due to lack of playoff wins. Enrollment per IHSA is 739, which puts them at the high end of 4A.

1 since 2014 when we made the semis. So we don't make it in 15, 16, 17 and win 1 in 19. This means we are not in 5A?[/QUOTE]

Correct. If a school fails to win 3 playoff games in previous 2 seasons, they are not subject to the multiplier.

 

[Sterling Warrior]

Is this years sterling team better than last years team? Saw them play last year and they were very good as well. Wonder how they compare

Sterling is banged up right now, they are down to 140 pound sophomore running back, he had 5 touchdowns last night, the lines are playing well and the QB is elusive and playing better than last year but they will need to get healthy to go as far as the last two years.

 

[Golden Warrior]

Sterling is banged up right now, they are down to 140 pound sophomore running back, he had 5 touchdowns last night, the lines are playing well and the QB is elusive and playing better than last year but they will need to get healthy to go as far as the last two years.

sterling should be back to full strength for week 9 game