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Success Factor/NAZ

Secondo1

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Was wondering why NAZ is still in 5A after winning the championship in consecutive years. Can someone explain.
Thx.
 
Was wondering why NAZ is still in 5A after winning the championship in consecutive years. Can someone explain.
Thx.
Last year was the first year of the two year cycle. If they make it to state this year, win or lose, they move up for success factor.
 
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Jenny explained perfectly. It’s the same reason MC isn’t in 8a. Next year you get rid of them….IF they can get past Franny
 
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I mean the SF is dumb in any iteration - don't get me wrong - but it's also super dumb that it's measured in fixed calendar year periods instead of rolling. What's the justification?
 
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I mean the SF is dumb in any iteration - don't get me wrong - but it's also super dumb that it's measured in fixed calendar year periods instead of rolling. What's the justification?
Don’t try and apply logic to IHSA rules pertaining to Catholic schools.
 
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I mean the SF is dumb in any iteration - don't get me wrong - but it's also super dumb that it's measured in fixed calendar year periods instead of rolling. What's the justification?
I don’t know this, but it’s also the opposite two years of the cycle for the CCL/ESCC divisions. So this season is season one of the CCL/ESSS two year cycle for the blue, green, orange…..
 
Don’t try and apply logic to IHSA rules pertaining to Catholic schools.
Really is the height of stupidity.

In theory Naz can lose to SF this week and have back to back titles and not get success factored.

JC could beat Morris and then lose to SF and then, by virtue of finishing runner up twice in a row within that arbitrary two year window, they would be success factored up without a single state title.

So Naz could go back to back and face no success factor and JC could win zero titles and wind up in 6A the next two years.

Really, really weird application of a really weird rule.
 
Really is the height of stupidity.

In theory Naz can lose to SF this week and have back to back titles and not get success factored.

JC could beat Morris and then lose to SF and then, by virtue of finishing runner up twice in a row within that arbitrary two year window, they would be success factored up without a single state title.

So Naz could go back to back and face no success factor and JC could win zero titles and wind up in 6A the next two years.

Really, really weird application of a really weird rule.
The part that gets me is Naz and JCA could go to title and get bumped up to 6a for 2 years but no matter what happens in the next 2 year period they can’t stay in 6a. Gotta love the IHSA.
 
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I don’t know this, but it’s also the opposite two years of the cycle for the CCL/ESCC divisions. So this season is season one of the CCL/ESSS two year cycle for the blue, green, orange…..
Correct and very weird.
 
Really is the height of stupidity.

In theory Naz can lose to SF this week and have back to back titles and not get success factored.

JC could beat Morris and then lose to SF and then, by virtue of finishing runner up twice in a row within that arbitrary two year window, they would be success factored up without a single state title.

So Naz could go back to back and face no success factor and JC could win zero titles and wind up in 6A the next two years.

Really, really weird application of a really weird rule.
The part that gets me is Naz could go to title and get bumped up to 6a for 2 years but no matter what happens in the next 2 year period they can’t stay in 6a. Gotta love the IHSA.
I have been saying this for a while. The IHSA has to make some common sense adjustments to these rules. But they probably won't.
 
The part that gets me is Naz and JCA could go to title and get bumped up to 6a for 2 years but no matter what happens in the next 2 year period they can’t stay in 6a. Gotta love the IHSA.
AND what about playing the Post Season chess match? I could see Naz and/or JCA petitioning up to 7A if this happens.
 
I don’t know this, but it’s also the opposite two years of the cycle for the CCL/ESCC divisions. So this season is season one of the CCL/ESSS two year cycle for the blue, green, orange…..
So from what I take of this is that Rita plays same CCL Schedule as this past year? You are full of information, Jenny! Thanks.
 
Thanks to the board for explaining this. Need to be a Harvard attorney to figure kit all out!
 
AND what about playing the Post Season chess match? I could see Naz and/or JCA petitioning up to 7A if this happens.
I would be very surprised if Naz did that, nor do I think they should. Less insight on JCA but I feel the same there.
 
AND what about playing the Post Season chess match? I could see Naz and/or JCA petitioning up to 7A if this happens.
However, my funniest possible scenario (for me) would be:
- both Naz and JCA get success'd up to 6A for 25/26 seasons
And
- ESL decides to NOT petition up to 6A and stays in 5A for the 25/26 season. :)
 
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However, my funniest possible scenario (for me) would be:
- both Naz and JCA get success'd up to 6A for 25/26 seasons
And
- ESL decides to NOT petition up to 6A and stays in 5A for the 25/26 season. :)
I am not familiar with the rules you are citing, but wouldn't ESL be in the same position JCA is in if they win Saturday...consecutive years in the championship game. Why would they not be forced to play up?
 
I am not familiar with the rules you are citing, but wouldn't ESL be in the same position JCA is in if they win Saturday...consecutive years in the championship game. Why would they not be forced to play up?
Success factor only applies to private schools.
 
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