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The fact that you find the above comment as a justifiable reason for the success factor being selectively applied is laughable.Success factor is simply a way to tier the open boundary schools even further, was an alternative to increasing the multiplier across the board.. it was the mid tier open enrollment schools that pushed for it..
The fact that you find the above comment as a justifiable reason for the success factor being selectively applied is laughable.
I agree, I say do away with the SF and increase multiplier to somewhere between 2.5-3.0 for ALL open enrollment schools and eliminate the waiver.. lets treat them all the same..
Loyola is a private school and is exempt from the success factor. Does that make sense??
Yes I have said that and wondered that as well. If I were a 4A-6A private school I would be somewhat frustrated with being treated differently than the 8A privates Marist/LA etc. those schools are as high as you can go from classification perspective.
What I would like to see (something along the lines of Stone Lizards open class) is all privates and publics with significant success get moved to open enrollment class.
It's very simple: BECAUSE they are already multiplied into 8A there is no 9A or 10A.Loyola is a private school and is exempt from the success factor. Does that make sense??
Should they go up to 9a?Loyola is a private school and is exempt from the success factor. Does that make sense??
I'm complaining. Nazareth is a 5A team playing in 6A, falls in the title game, and now must play in 7A, despite not having won a title in now over two years.
Yes. We are in agreement for sure.Exactly that's just plain unfair.
I agree, I say do away with the SF and increase multiplier to somewhere between 2.5-3.0 for ALL open enrollment schools and eliminate the waiver.. lets treat them all the same..
2.5-3 is ridiculous. Every 4/5a school would end up in the uncapped enrollment 8a class. No private (except the ones that are already there: Loyola, etc) should ever have to play above 7a. 8a is uncapped and privates with 6-700 kids would never compete there!
1.65 is fine. Get rid of success factor.
1.65 is fine for the private schools fans that enjoy their advantage...
Another possible step... keep 1.65, cut radius from 30 miles to 15 miles...
1.65 is fine for the private schools fans that enjoy their advantage...
Another possible step... keep 1.65, cut radius from 30 miles to 15 miles...
Your ridiculous. How about we just leave the IHSA for playoffs and have our own Midwestern States Private School playoffs.
School choice, public or private is the best route to go. We don't need anymore anti-choice legislation. The power needs to be with the people and the parents.
If you can't get it in Illinois then it's time to move to another state.
Leave the IHSA, that's fine... but you have to take all your other sports with you..
What I said wasn't ridiculous at all, makes perfect sense..
Talk about unintended consequences... worst thing that could happens to ihsa public football!!! In a state such as Texas where all of the tradition is with the big powerhouse public programs the split is fine.... all of the prestige is with the public championships and the private championships are second fiddle with little fan fare.... illinois would be more like New Jersey but much worse.... if you know much about national HS football you can name a few Nj powerhouses such as Bergen catholic or don bosco... tell me who the Nj public powers are???? Same would happen here... all of the prestige would follow the private championships and everyone would talk about loyola, mount carmel, montini, naz, etc.... the shine would be off of the public champions completely! If you want the ihsa public leagues to be a second fiddle affair go ahead and push for separation!
Talk about unintended consequences... worst thing that could happens to ihsa public football!!! In a state such as Texas where all of the tradition is with the big powerhouse public programs the split is fine.... all of the prestige is with the public championships and the private championships are second fiddle with little fan fare.... illinois would be more like New Jersey but much worse.... if you know much about national HS football you can name a few Nj powerhouses such as Bergen catholic or don bosco... tell me who the Nj public powers are???? Same would happen here... all of the prestige would follow the private championships and everyone would talk about loyola, mount carmel, montini, naz, etc.... the shine would be off of the public champions completely! If you want the ihsa public leagues to be a second fiddle affair go ahead and push for separation!
Talk about unintended consequences... worst thing that could happens to ihsa public football!!! In a state such as Texas where all of the tradition is with the big powerhouse public programs the split is fine.... all of the prestige is with the public championships and the private championships are second fiddle with little fan fare.... illinois would be more like New Jersey but much worse.... if you know much about national HS football you can name a few Nj powerhouses such as Bergen catholic or don bosco... tell me who the Nj public powers are???? Same would happen here... all of the prestige would follow the private championships and everyone would talk about loyola, mount carmel, montini, naz, etc.... the shine would be off of the public champions completely! If you want the ihsa public leagues to be a second fiddle affair go ahead and push for separation!
I have yet to meet a public school coach who doesn't think public schools should be success factored up. When a small school has success they benefit from move ins whether they be in high school or junior high specifically for sports. There by skewing the talent numbers they should have for their level. But if the worst thing that comes out of this is Herscher never winning, I guess all is well.
Talk about unintended consequences... worst thing that could happens to ihsa public football!!! In a state such as Texas where all of the tradition is with the big powerhouse public programs the split is fine.... all of the prestige is with the public championships and the private championships are second fiddle with little fan fare.... illinois would be more like New Jersey but much worse.... if you know much about national HS football you can name a few Nj powerhouses such as Bergen catholic or don bosco... tell me who the Nj public powers are???? Same would happen here... all of the prestige would follow the private championships and everyone would talk about loyola, mount carmel, montini, naz, etc.... the shine would be off of the public champions completely! If you want the ihsa public leagues to be a second fiddle affair go ahead and push for separation!
Exactly. Look at the Naz point above. A 5a school possibly going to 7a only because of the “success factor” . Keep them in 5a and let’s see what happens.Patently unfair and complete bs. A team is good so let’s penalize them to help the have nots.Well 7 of the 8 champions this past week would have been playing in the public tournament...
Totally agree. The IHSA public school playoffs would become persona non grata. The private schools would load up with all the talent to compete against one another, play national teams, negotiate tv deals and completely minimize the public schools. Believe me HHS, it would be ugly.
If you are truly worried about anyone being second fiddle then you obviously have no time or concerns for anything below the top class. In your terms, a team such as Naz or Montini winning a 5 A title should be almost an embarrassment. Certainly not first fiddle stuff.