Naz @ MC
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The frosh actually starts now at NG and it has facilitated a move of another player to RG
Legit, yes, not top-tier in a national sense.
I’ll give Tuccs this…when he’s funny, damn is he funny.
To some degree, but less so when you're talking about a couple of schools where the football program was almost certainly a factor in most of the players' decision to attend the school. Sure, if it's just a random selection of kids at a school, then its highly probable a much larger school would have more talent, but these are not randomly selected kids.
I would still expect Mt. Carmel to win, but the difference in class would be more important in a matchup of programs with less prominent legacies.
To further my point. Through 2 weeks, I found 17 games where a team beat another that was at least 3 classes higher. In 5 of those games, it was a private David vs. a public Goliath.
| Week | School | Class | Opponent | Class | w/L | Score | opp |
1 | Belleville (Althoff) | 1A | @ Alton | 7A | W | 41 | 14 |
2 | Palos Heights (Chicago Christian) | 2A | Elmwood Park | 5A | W | 49 | 16 |
1 | Decatur (St. Teresa) | 2A | Urbana | 5A | W | 40 | 8 |
1 | Chicago (Carver) | 3A | Chicago (Lake View) | 6A | W | 26 | 14 |
2 | Chicago (Dyett) | 4A | Chicago (Curie) | 8A | W | 16 | 0 |
1 | Chicago (South Shore) | 4A | Chicago (Curie) | 8A | W | 68 | 0 |
2 | West Chicago (Wheaton Academy) | 4A | St. Charles (East) | 7A | W | 28 | 17 |
2 | Burbank (St. Laurence) | 4A | @ Evanston | 8A | W | 42 | 7 |
2 | Chicago (Phillips) | 4A | @ Rich (Township) | 8A | W | 26 | 24 |
2 | Glen Ellyn (Glenbard South) | 5A | Aurora (East) | 8A | W | 41 | 7 |
2 | Sycamore | 5A | Oswego (East) | 8A | W | 15 | 9 |
2 | Grayslake (North) | 5A | Elgin | 8A | W | 35 | 24 |
1 | Chicago Heights (Marian Catholic) | 5A | @ Rich (Township) | 8A | W | 25 | 0 |
2 | Chicago (Morgan Park) | 5A | @ Oak Park (River Forest) | 8A | W | 26 | 0 |
2 | Burlington (Central) | 5A | @ Carpentersville (Dundee-Crown) | 8A | W | 24 | 22 |
2 | Morris | 5A | @ Joliet (West) | 8A | W | 31 | 17 |
2 | Antioch | 5A | @ Zion-Benton | 8A | W | 33 | 20 |
its week 3 we can't possibly be starting the public vs private talk already, There is an unwritten rule we wait until week 11 for that type of talk. Like after a 4-5 Naz beats an undefeated Prairie Ridge
I remember the thread quite well how a poster claimed the lower classes RARELY beat the higher classes
And this is private for private... Whatever inherent advantage there is certainly applies for both. Even if both get x number of high level players, having more general student population bodies is still significant in 11 v 11 for a top down roster. And if the talent difference of 7th best v 7th best down is significant that adds up.
Right- still a factor, but I stand by: To some degree, but less so when you're talking about a couple of schools where the football program was almost certainly a factor in most of the players' decision to attend the school.
I wouldn't call a private David in those situations. Most of the bigger schools had losing seasons the previous year. In those game size does not matter. But I feel when you have two private Goliaths it does.
Its all relative. Between probably ~3A to ~6A the relative size differences all fall within a tight part of the bell curve. Only at the tail ends of the classification does the standard deviation start giving true outliers relative to a single class difference. And obviously even then quality of program still matters greatly (if you can isolate the other success factors as equal).
And at a certain point there's probably also diminishing returns. But in little areas like how many two way players you have, size of enrollment matters.
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I believe Edgy covered their first game. They were running the Wing T.
Epic, for wrestling I’d agree, lax as well, but for football not so much.
I expect Jack Elliott to have a season that reminds us of Jack Lausch.
Godfthr, you may be correct, but honestly I just don’t remember. That said, if the game is close, I think Naz comes out on top, if things snowball early in the game MC could run away. Heart says Naz head says MC…going with my heart! Naz 31 MC 28
Wish I was going tonight but my daughter is doing some mini cheerleading thing at the local high school game. (The things is dads so for the kids) Thankfully MC uses YouTube and may I say puts on quite the production with multiple cameras. I highly recommend anyone else not able to attend.
Oddly vague stats. 10 seniors to college football...we talking Robert Morris College and Carthage?
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