Marist at Naz
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As McCaravan said, the number one rule is don't touch the kids. It's really quite simple. I didn't mention canceling, lynching, or hanging. I said "Yikes." As for your other angle of the play, who cares? That has no bearing on what the coach did. Coaches have to know better. It is both their job and responsibility.
Plenty of other coaches available. It’s embarrassing if they keep him. Even worse than having a private referee on the sidelines.
Of course you didn’t. Nor did I imply that you did. My point was a a society we are very quick to judge these situations. The quote that was posted followed by a “yikes” implies what a horrible decision they made in 2018. Could be I interpreted that wrong my apologies.
This “under no circumstances should a coach put hands on a kid” is violated just about every weekend in Illinois high school football. Solely in situations where these plays end up on the sidelines. Opposing teams players in a coaches face trash talking. You know how many coaches I’ve seen push a kid away in that situation? Scrums break out between players, the coaches are grabbing and throwing kids back into the field. Not implying that was the case here at all. But it certainly disproves this “under no circumstance “ policy being spoken of.
Remember, I’m not defending his actions here. We are all viewing this through a 5 second single angle video clip. Maybe there’s more to it.
Sometimes a 5 second single angle video clip is all that is needed. What more could there be to it? I am asking honestly, what more could there have possibly been that would come close to justifying this grown man throwing a 17/18 year old kid down and standing over him (even if it was for just a few seconds).
The instances you’ve seen - the coaches have no business being on the field then. You don’t touch an opposing player, point blank. There are zero instances where a coach altercation with an opposing player is acceptable. Absolutely zero.
This doesn’t have anything to do with a “5 second clip” or cherrypicking a specific 5 second frame. It doesn’t have anything to do with cancel culture. The coach screwed up on something that shouldn’t allow a second chance. You DON’T touch the opposing players.
I respectfully disagree. Especially on the 5 second clip part. The other views are out there. Unfortunately we just disagree. It happens. Not much more I can add here other than maybe it’d be best to let the 2 schools involved in this situation decide this coaches future. Maybe we’ll all be shocked at their conclusion. Maybe not.
"What more could there be to it".....I don't know, maybe stating in a post that he kicked him, when he didn't?
Your exactly right McCaravan. The problem I have with Alexander32 comment is saying if the guy doesn’t have a history of this behavior he should only be suspended. Wrong! This coach did something completely unacceptable. If this happened in the work place he would be terminated no question. I say this because Alexander32 mentioned he was a supervisor. If you lay hands on someone at work it’s termination. If you lay hands on a kid it’s definitely termination or worse. Their are certain violations you get a written warning, this violation is more than a written warning or a suspension. We are not even talking about embarrassing the school’s reputation and the possible legal action that could come.
Absolutely not. The IHSA and CCL have guidelines. It is their job to enforce them. Those have been violated. Most other sports have Safesport and/or mandated reporter requirements and this coach disqualified himself from the privilege of working with youth athletes.
What does someone posting something on a message board have to do with the fact that he did what we did?
I'm done on this topic; I've made my thoughts clear. I've coached a few different sports at a few different levels and stand by my belief that what was shown in that 5 second clip is unacceptable at any level and there's no "context" that can fix it.
That may be the rule in coaching, but when I was a student in high school, some of the priests and lay teachers dished out corporal punishment. In grammar school, the nuns were even worse.
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If I came home and told my parents they hit me, they would say "What the hell did you do to make them hit you?" and when I told them, they would hit me too! LOL....Like I said people who grew up in that era, this wouldn't have raised an eyebrow, but its a different climate now.
The tape cuts short (sorry I don't have a copy). You are right about the player. Coach is lucky the kid didn't stand up and toss him. His antics kept going for quite awhile when other Marist players came to their teammates aid. Trust me, I hate the mob and the media as much as anybody, but in this case I don't know how Naz keeps him. Friday can't come fast enough. Back to what happens on the field and not what happens off to the side. Maybe in the offseason when we are bored we should start a corporal punishment string. LOL. Again I think the Catholics would dominate the conversation, but our publics brothers and sisters may have a comment or two to add.
Good he should. He is taking responsibility for his actions, It might be the best lesson he learned.
Lol
Publics handed some of their own punishment back in the day. In Jr High I had to hold both hands out and received 10 slaps on each hand with a wood ruler. You can imagine how red my hands were. To be honest I can’t remember what I did to deserve the punishment. I went home and told my dad and he said good you probably deserved it. Times have changed and to tell the truth I hated that teacher ever since.
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