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Lisle cancelled their Varsity season for the 25-26 school year. Now teams will be scrambling to find an opponent or taking a FFT win. Not good for the ICE
 
How does this even happen? They have never been great but always decent and there are plenty of Lisle kids in the local youth programs that they should have enough kids to field a team. Seems like the bottom just dropped out last year.
 
Has there been a demographic change?
Being a suburb, Lisle has always been a bit of an oddball compared to the rest of the league (with the exception of Westmont the years they were in)
Also, their school district boundary must be quite different from the city limits considering their small enrollment compared to the city population.

I also assume, given their location and the state of their program, that they “lose” all their best players to the numerous other options in the area.
 
How does this even happen? They have never been great but always decent and there are plenty of Lisle kids in the local youth programs that they should have enough kids to field a team. Seems like the bottom just dropped out last year.
2-16 over the past two years and a winless season last year.

At roughly 400 kids, they are very small by suburban HS standards. Doesn't take much for the bottom to fall out of a school that size.

Additionally, they are pretty much of a fish out of water in that conference of theirs. It's around 50 miles to their nearest conference opponent, with Streator being an 80-mile drive. None of the schools in that conference could be considered suburban.
 
Used to be a good small school program. Made playoffs 7 of 8 times the IHSA playoffs were first in existence, 26 total playoff trips.

The Arboretum Bowl vs. Benet Academy used to be a big thing in Lisle.
 
2-16 over the past two years and a winless season last year.

At roughly 400 kids, they are very small by suburban HS standards. Doesn't take much for the bottom to fall out of a school that size.

Additionally, they are pretty much of a fish out of water in that conference of theirs. It's around 50 miles to their nearest conference opponent, with Streator being an 80-mile drive. None of the schools in that conference could be considered suburban.
And it is right in the heart of some suburban private schools coverage area...Benet, SF, Montini, Naz, ICCP
 
I was afraid of something like this eventually happening with them.. There are minnows in a pond surrounded by big fish.. You have Naperville to the West, Downers Grove to the East , Glen Ellyn to the north and Bolingbrook to the south .... I may be incorrect in this but I thought at one time I had heard that there was talk of Lisle and Westmont doing a football co-op... The schools are 10 miles apart...
 
I was afraid of something like this eventually happening with them.. There are minnows in a pond surrounded by big fish.. You have Naperville to the West, Downers Grove to the East , Glen Ellyn to the north and Bolingbrook to the south .... I may be incorrect in this but I thought at one time I had heard that there was talk of Lisle and Westmont doing a football co-op... The schools are 10 miles apart...
That Co-Op would make sense but with the success of the surrounding private schools in football the talent would still be hard to get, IMO.
 
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Should never happen. If you build up a strong feeder program - you can get those kids to go to HS in Lisle. There is loads of talent in Lisle.
 
I may be incorrect in this but I thought at one time I had heard that there was talk of Lisle and Westmont doing a football co-op... The schools are 10 miles apart...
I'll take it one step further, Mike, and suggest that the two adjoining school districts ought to consider merging. Even if they operate two campuses for a while, they could still take advantage of other economies of scale and save the taxpayers in both districts a bunch of money.

If Westmont and Lisle were to merge, the resulting school would be of a size and location that should be able to be competitive in conferences like the Upstate 8 East or South Suburban Red.
 
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Should never happen. If you build up a strong feeder program - you can get those kids to go to HS in Lisle. There is loads of talent in Lisle.
Doesn't matter if you have a strong feeder program when Lisle is the size it is and in the middle of so many other options.
 
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Doesn't matter if you have a strong feeder program when Lisle is the size it is and in the middle of so many other options.
With no offense to the schools Lisle plays, does a good football player want to play that schedule/comp or the schedule/comp of those surrounding CCL schools and 8A schools. They are in a tough spot this day in age in HS fball.
 
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Should never happen. If you build up a strong feeder program - you can get those kids to go to HS in Lisle. There is loads of talent in Lisle.
I believe the majority of Lisle is actually in the Naperville North district and maybe a few others. The school Lisle is not inclusive of the town. I think it is actually a fairly small-ish subsection of Lisle. If kids in the Lisle district play in feeder programs with kids who go to NN, the Downers Schools, a whole bunch of suburban privates, etc. it is hard to build momentum convincing the few kids who do actually live in your weirdly shaped district that they should forego the competition of the Catholic league or 8A public school football to play for a 3A school in a rather small conference.
 
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Max Preps not always right but looking at last years roster 38 players coming back. 22 upper classman & 16 sophs if they all came out. So you add 10 to 12 Frosh & that’s 50 players so what’s the deal?
 
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Max Preps not always right but looking at last years roster 38 players coming back. 22 upper classman & 16 sophs if they all came out. So you add 10 to 12 Frosh & that’s 50 players so what’s the deal?
Number of kids doesn't tell the whole story plus, as you said, it's MaxPreps. You're also assuming everyone who is eligible will return to a team that was winless last year and scored 63 points for the entire season.

Your numbers, or MaxPreps', also seem off. Lisle's enrollment last year was 408, let's assume half are boys so 50 out of 200 boys will be playing football? 25% of all boys seems high.
 
I believe the majority of Lisle is actually in the Naperville North district and maybe a few others. The school Lisle is not inclusive of the town. I think it is actually a fairly small-ish subsection of Lisle.
Yeah I always wondered about that. The stated population of Lisle is the largest of any city in the ICE and 3-4x most of the other towns, yet they have one of the smallest enrollments in the league
 
The conference is the killer imo. The travel can’t inspire anyone from parents to the kids.

Merging with Westmont and trying to get into the Upstate 8 or another softer suburban conference would probably be the best thing.
 
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I'll take it one step further, Mike, and suggest that the two adjoining school districts ought to consider merging. Even if they operate two campuses for a while, they could still take advantage of other economies of scale and save the taxpayers in both districts a bunch of money.

If Westmont and Lisle were to merge, the resulting school would be of a size and location that should be able to be competitive in conferences like the Upstate 8 East or South Suburban Red.
No one has been able to crack into either division of the South Suburban Conference for the 20 years since that league formed with its present 14 schools. Like clockwork, 2 non-cons to start the season, 6 games inside the division and 1 cross-over based on prior record. A real closed shop.
 
Number of kids doesn't tell the whole story plus, as you said, it's MaxPreps. You're also assuming everyone who is eligible will return to a team that was winless last year and scored 63 points for the entire season.

Your numbers, or MaxPreps', also seem off. Lisle's enrollment last year was 408, let's assume half are boys so 50 out of 200 boys will be playing football? 25% of all

/Football (2024) Roster

Lisle Football (2024) Roster​

24-25
Do you have a team photo? Upload it here

#PlayerGradePositionHeightWeight

Jalen W
Jr.DT, T--
1
David Skonieczny
Jr.RB, LB5'9"175 lbs
2
Jacob Aalrust
Fr.RB, LB5'9"160 lbs
3
Nolan Ashmore
So.QB, LB6'0"155 lbs
4
Anthony Sansone
Jr.WR, DB5'8"145 lbs
5
JT Tumbarelli
Fr.WR, DB5'6"130 lbs
6
Cordell Hicks
Fr.WR, DB5'7"135 lbs
7
Jayden Bae
Sr.RB, DB5'7"160 lbs
8
Justas Dobilas
Jr.WR, DB6'0"160 lbs
9
Cardell Hicks
Fr.RB, LB5'8"147 lbs
10
Thomas Jones
Sr.WR, DB5'9"145 lbs
11
Asher Carson
Jr.WR, DB5'8"145 lbs
12
Nathaniel Garcia
Fr.WR, DB5'9"135 lbs
13
David Nesbitt
Jr.WR, DB6'1"160 lbs
14
Collins Miles
Fr.WR, DB5'5"95 lbs
15
Noah Nigro
So.TE, LB5'11"190 lbs
21
Arbab Abdul Jabbar
Sr.TE, DE6'1"180 lbs
22
Adam Drake
So.RB, LB5'6"140 lbs
23
Laith Assaf
So.WR, DB5'5"115 lbs
24
Joshua Alexander
Jr.WR, DB5'7"165 lbs
30
Caleb Adams
Fr.WR, DB5'9"130 lbs
32
Alexander Adams
Jr.RB, LB5'10"165 lbs
34
Patrick Doss
Sr.WR, DB5'10"155 lbs
35
Thaddeus Aguilar
Fr.RB, LB5'8"166 lbs
44
Elanas Grigonis
Fr.WR, DB5'7"140 lbs
50
Wilson Wunder
Fr.OL, DL5'5"177 lbs
52
Ephrem Winterburn
Fr.OL, DL5'10"197 lbs
54
Dylan Lemmy
Fr.OL, DL5'10"207 lbs
55
Andrew Schroeder
Jr.OL, DL6'2"225 lbs
58
Nicholas Schuette
So.OL, DL5'6"170 lbs
59
Andres Tenorio
So.OL, DL5'8"240 lbs
60
BENJAMIN KOHNEN
Fr.OL, DL5'7"160 lbs
63
Gael Maldonado
So.OL, DL5'10"260 lbs
64
Zachariah Webb
So.OL, DL5'11"235 lbs
65
Ramon Ortega
Sr.OL, DL6'3"250 lbs
66
Diego Tenorio
Jr.OL, DL5'8"240 lbs
70
Jalen Winger
Jr.OL, DL6'1"268 lbs
72
Shoaib Khan
Jr.OL, DL6'3"225 lbs
73
Bryan Joya-Reyes
Jr.OL, DL5'10"285 lbs
75
Carlito Fryer
Sr.OL, DL6'1"261 lbs
81
Caden Russell
Fr.WR, DB5'10"130 lbs
85
Payton Larsen
Fr.WR, DB5'1"85 lbs
88
Blake deBuhr
Jr.K, P6'1"155 lbs
90
 
Being that someone has to submit that info to MaxPreps, and that someone can be anyone with an account, I don't trust them at all. Can't see a rep from the school submitting a roster for a team that won't exist this year.
That was from last season. I was skeptical because there is a private school near where I live that had 25 players only. Max Preps had them at 52 & it is a smaller school than Lisle
 
Doesn't matter if you have a strong feeder program when Lisle is the size it is and in the middle of so many other options.
Previous coach had them in the playoffs 5 out of his 7 years and two seasons after he’s gone - they can’t even field a team. In his tenure they were competitive with Wilmington (beat them and won conference in 2018) and Byron.

Again, should never happen.

Theres no excuse for this.
 
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Previous coach had them in the playoffs 5 out of his 7 years and two seasons after he’s gone - they can’t even field a team. In his tenure they were competitive with Wilmington (beat them and won conference in 2018) and Byron.

Again, should never happen.

Theres no excuse for this.
2018 is a long time ago in IL HS football, the landscape has changed.
 
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Previous coach had them in the playoffs 5 out of his 7 years and two seasons after he’s gone - they can’t even field a team. In his tenure they were competitive with Wilmington (beat them and won conference in 2018) and Byron.

Again, should never happen.

Theres no excuse for this.
They have never been great, but they’ve been solid up until about half way through the 2023 season. Fairly consistently making playoff appearances, etc…

IIRC, they had low initial numbers combined with a rash of injuries to key players that year and just completely fell apart. They did manage to beat R-C in the final game, but the Comets had basically packed it in for the year.

Last year, they were dreadful.

I can’t remember when they stopped fielding a sophomore team, but I recall that as well.

I’m not particularly surprised by any of this. Their program has been on quite the downturn.
 
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Previous coach had them in the playoffs 5 out of his 7 years and two seasons after he’s gone - they can’t even field a team. In his tenure they were competitive with Wilmington (beat them and won conference in 2018) and Byron.

Again, should never happen.

Theres no excuse for this.
Yep, and those 2018 seniors are now 25 so what's your point as to how that effects the 2025 team? There's been countless schools that have had solid 5-7 year stretches, but that doesn't mean anything for their current situation. Take a team like Carthage, they were a powerhouse in the 90's and had some good teams in the early 2000's but since winning a title in 2010 they've won a total of 3 playoff games and gone through 3 coaches.

Times and circumstances change, especially for smaller schools. Being that neither you or I know the full story, it's just ignorant to claim there's no excuse and this should never happen. This may not sit well with you, but there's also the possibility that football isn't on the pedestal you put it on for a school like Lisle.
 
Sports like Football, Basketball, and Baseball will continue to get more and more concentrated in each area. Soon, it will be more about the level of talent in an area of the state rather than at a school or even in a conference. Look what's happened to LL Baseball and In House Sports for all the towns and villages across the suburbs. Almost all have gone to travel based programs. We used to have 15-18 LL Teams at each level (Minors and Majors). Now, we have 2 teams for the town and have combined with 2 other towns to make a playable schedule. Adults/parents/money ruin sports. When this economy crashes, it will be interesting to see how travel sports gets impacted.
 
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Sports like Football, Basketball, and Baseball will continue to get more and more concentrated in each area. Soon, it will be more about the level of talent in an area of the state rather than at a school or even in a conference. Look what's happened to LL Baseball and In House Sports for all the towns and villages across the suburbs. Almost all have gone to travel based programs. We used to have 15-18 LL Teams at each level (Minors and Majors). Now, we have 2 teams for the town and have combined with 2 other towns to make a playable schedule. Adults/parents/money ruin sports. When this economy crashes, it will be interesting to see how travel sports gets impacted.
 
Travel ball survived the shit economy the last 12 out of 16 years so I think it’ll be just fine. I’m from Clearing then Burbank & can name at least 50 leagues both Pony,Little League or otherwise in the South Side alone that bit the dust :(
 
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